LSD

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Anyone ever dabbled before? What were your experiences? I've taken in the past, experienced ego death which was incredibly profound, always felt clear after the come up. Been reading a lot about it recently and find it fascinating how effective it can be for MH issues (been watching how to change your mind on Netflix). Anyone want to share? (I hope this is allowed, sorry if not!)

Now there's a question! I'm not sure actually. Somewhere early to mid 20s. Probably early 20s.

Actually - I think it would have been late teens. 18 or 19.

I tried it often when i was in my 20s. But my most memorable memory was i went to thailand and went to sea world in there. Wow i really thought i was a mermaid 🤣. I know its not real i’m going with my friends aswell and all of them use it. But i really ‘see’ all the fish swimming outside their aquarium 🤣.

the other one is i’m taking it before i do mountain biking in Indonesia. I just didnt imagine why i’m so stupid. Its really dangerous. My heart was pumping too much and i got too dizzy and i stop cycling.

Never got bad experience always fun and everything seems funny.

Acid definitely didn’t give me any profound life changing experiences, but it certainly was funny.

DMT on the other hand, is bloody amazing. Had several deep, intense realisations about my life which stayed with me. I felt like my brain was being massaged in a lovely way.

I had a friend who ended up dying on acid when we were in our early twenties. He jumped off a bridge onto the motorway. Bit of a cautionary tale there, although in fairness he did take an awful lot of it over a long period of time.

I am good friends with one of the people on the Netflix show (a psychiatrist who is one of the world’s experts in psychedelics in therapy). He says microdosing is bollocks and does nothing 😂

I took LSD once as a late teen... I was at a friends house; I think there were three of us. They both asked if I wanted to try and I said no.

I changed my mind (maybe a bit of peer pressure) and I remember them adding it to a sugar cube and putting it in a cup of tea!

I had the WORST time. Which sucks because I always hear of people having these amazing trips.

It was like time jumped forward; one moment someone was sat across the room, then next they were sat next to me.

I kept thinking I was weeing myself but it was just the warmth of my body on the bed. But because of this I kept going to the toilet.

I remember hairs were moving on the floor and he had these cartoon drawings that were freaking me out too.

I didn't realise it lasted for hours too. Couldn't sleep properly. I remember feeling paralysed at one point when his cat stood on my chest while I was laying down.

Anyway-it sucked for me so I doubt I'll ever try it again in the future!! Which is a shame as I always hear how amazing it can be 😂

I took acid/LSD aprox 5/6 times, each episode lasted about 24 hours, the day after makes you feel as though your cells are being destroyed, like the life has been sucked out of you. Takes 2/3 days to get over it and that was being young, late teens.
I've never taken mushrooms, nor ecstasy, but seen others on it, I often wondered if ecstasy is not the same/ or a strong because people seemed in control, more than when on LSD.

I would say it's interesting, I also had medical friends who had never taken it and who were fascinated about hearing about it's effects.
The 1st time was mind blowing happiness, halucinations, laughter, feelings of love, just unbelievably safe feeling but I was with a lovely boyfriend and friends.
The haluciniations are fascinating, every fixed object comes alive and moves, everthing you look at can change form and shape, much is due to your envoiroment and how the 'trip' manifests itself. So for example once I was out going in pubs and the clientele had changed to horses, very real visually.

Another time it was a few years later, safe with my partner, making love 😊well, ahem, whilst dtd he kept changing, his face, his chest, his arms, basically a different man facing me every five seconds !! That was weird but not unpleasant, as I knew it was him but just morphing. One of the most surreal things I,ve experienced.
I've had a couple of times where they were not bad trips as such but not as pleasing, that ended my use of them. I have seen one person have an incredibly bad one, where they thought someone had a knife and kept trying to come in the house and kill them.
In no way would I have touched them once I got past late teens and do recognise that those early 80's lsd tabs could so easily have had a double dose been stamped on them.

I don't know anyone who has died through their experiences but I should imagine it happens, LSD puts your body and mind under such an enormous ammount of strain. Some youngsters have little fear or knowledge that they may have underlying health conditions that could make an experiment lethal.

I also think LSD can have lasting effects, that withdrawl feeling that happens the day after is something I,ve felt momentarily years after. The only way I can describe it is by likening it to breastfeeding, you know when you get that drawing feeling after feeding a long time, it's the same with your brain, like a drawing feeling on the brain.
Weird stuff.

Would I recommend anyone taking LSD, no way, I've not seen the Netflix programme so I can't comment but I know my expeiences were not life changing experiences.

I am good friends with one of the people on the Netflix show (a psychiatrist who is one of the world’s experts in psychedelics in therapy). He says microdosing is bollocks and does nothing

Does he think psilocybin does anything in larger doses? It would be interesting to know when a dose is no longer considered to be a micro dose!

A microdose is a tenth of a dose of an average trip. You are not supposed to feel any trip at all.

I've tried microdosing with mushrooms - it left me quite on edge, It causes anxiety in some amount of people (probably those that are already anxious). The clinical and anecdotal large studies have shown any positive effect from it is mainly placebo (and maybe my anxiety was placebo as well).

Larger doses every few months have really helped with my depression. The sooner this treatment is available legally in clinics the better - to give properly measured doses, a therapist to sit with you and preparation and follow-up. It is hit and miss doing it yourself.

To give a balanced account of DMT, as the accounts on this thread so far are glowing. it's incredibly strong. I still don't know whether I regret taking it or not - it was life changing in some ways, and among the strangest experiences of my life, but has really coloured how I see things (it was dysphoric at times). I took some large doses though, more than recommended. Again, a problem of self-administering that could be cut out in a clinic or a more measured way of taking it.

That's interesting @TildaK so it's like microdosing every day is pointless. But a 'normal' dose every so often can help as therapy?

It just feels right to me that if we can treat people with MH issues with more natural substances that's a good thing. I take lemon balm if I get stressed which has a calming effect. I don't need ADs but I'm sure if I visited the doctor that would be the only thing offered to me.

Never taken acid, always been too scared as my mind wouldn't be able to handle it I don't think! But this makes me think of the film 'Lucy', would you say it's like that ?

We have a mutual friend lifesucks 👋🏼

there isn’t any convincing evidence for microdosing, it’s pretty much anecdotal so far.

of course a ‘proper’ dose or psilocybin is a completely different ball game, plenty of evidence for therapeutic value then.

anyone interested, look up Robin Carhart-Harris’ work at Imperial.

Took plenty in the 1990's never had a bad experience..just a lot of fun.

No long term damage done to me as far as I'm aware.

Hi @JudyGemstone, he’s a hoot isn’t he 🤣.

@TildaK yes I think quantity is key with DMT. My same friend (from the Netflix show), took some in a clinical setting and he did not enjoy it at all, but he was given quite a hefty dose. When I took it, I was a bit scared as I’d never done it before, so only took a tiny amount, and it was lovely. It’s the only drug I’ve ever taken where in the days following I felt better for having taken it, not worse.

I had so much fun with it. Always with people I trusted. We used to dare each other to walk along the street and back amongst all the 'normal' people. By the time we got back we'd be pissing ourselves. Then later came the amazing visuals. I wouldn't do it now but it was great fun in my carefree youth

Fortunately I was slightly too young to get caught up in the glue sniffing thing of the 80s. The people I knew who did had severe depression problems. You don't hear anything about it these days but those same people will now be in their 50s and I often wonder if it had long term effects.

A few of my friends have recently dabbled in magic mushrooms (they are in their 60s,) apparently involves a lot of crying. Some sort of a release experience. I'd be too scared!

Yes, lots of crying! You feel great afterwards though.

I was interested to try it in a controlled research environment however my psychiatrist of many years advised against it - I'm stable now & don't want to risk anything that would upset that!

Really?! That's why I was interested in microdosing as I thought it would be less scary but apparently it's no good. I guess there's no harm in starting small and building up the dose?

Yes you can start small, maybe 1g, see how you feel on that. You build tolerance if you take too often so leave a gap of about a week between try-outs.

3g is a moderate trip, 5g is a 'heroic dose' - ego death, crying etc. Not everyone cries but if you have buried emotions and feelings to release, they probably will come out.

Depends on the type of mushrooms but for Liberty caps I’d say this is the case

It was definitely my favourite drug in the 90s

Haven't done anything for 30years but if I knew it was 100% safe LSD is the one thing I'd try again

That's very helpful, thank you @TildaK 😉

Ditto @TomAllenWife