People around Liz Truss's age

[mintywinter]

Who also went to a Comprehensive school, did you travel on a plane as a kid? I didn't and I was thinking about the bit in her speech where she says she got an air hostess badge, and thinking that anyone in my school who'd been on a plane would have been thought of as posh? In my school people holidayed in the UK if at all.

She's a couple of years younger than I am.

Never went on a plane as a child, went to a comprehensive school. Parents both teachers. First time I'd been on a plane, first time I was out of the country was when I was 16 and went away on an exchange trip with school. That wasn't unusual among my peer group.

I'm a bit younger than her and went to a comprehensive. Lots of people i know went on planes. We didn't because my dad had horrendous air sickness!!

What is the point you are trying to make? How many Labour MPs do you think went to private schools? Jeremy Corbyn for one!! How many of them do you think sent their kids to private school? Do you think they all live on council estates?
Do some research before you post, it might prevent you making yourself look like an idiot

I'm a bit younger and went to (state) grammar school. The only time I went on a plane before I was about 14 was to visit an uncle who lived in the US. When I got older we started going abroad more, but for many years summer was three weeks self catering in Scotland.

AsAnyFuleKno that has brought back memories. My mum hired a subbed too. I used to go on it every night. Sun cream was very low factor I don’t think I ever went higher than a factor 8, and a deep tan was seen as highly desirable. Plus oil was the in thing rather than cream as it ‘attracted the sun.’ Or something.

Truss also spent a year at school in Canada, over seas travel obviously did happen in the 80s & 90s before the arrival of low cost airlines.

She boasts/lied she is the first PM to go to a Comp but didn't Brown and May also go to one? or at least a state school in the case of Brown.

But really so what?

What i find interesting about her is how she has used political parties and pov to further her career,
she'd be lucky to even be an MP if she'd stayed a LibDem and certainly wouldn't have become a Govt Minister if she'd joined Labour, she chose the party that offered a route to the top rather than one that represents her beliefs or as Kay Burley said "Will the real Liz Truss stand up"

At least with Davy and Starmer, you know they actually believe in their parties general direction.

Exactly this. She was hardly slumming it on the mean streets of Leeds 😆

I didn't fly with family but did a couple of school trips by plane - they were a big deal for us.

She's full of crap but I do think it quite hilarious that she's played on the deprivation caused by the previous tory government - as a reason to keep voting tory!

I’m 42. Went on a plane every year. Then dad died and we hit huge poverty, went on a plane once every three years paid for by grandparents and to a cheap French holiday park.

I'm the same age as her and went to a grammar school in the north. We went abroad a couple of times on holiday (France, Germany, Denmark) but always on a ferry. We went to the original Legoland when I was about 10! Some people went on package holidays abroad but it wasn't an expected thing.
I didn't go on a plane until I was 22.

That is unusual though! My uncles are plumbers, electricians and steelworkers (Yorkshire), and they all went abroad every year in the 80s.

Not necessarily on planes (the plumber liked cruises), but definitely took their two weeks in the sun.

I remember my auntie turning her nose up at the Isle of Wight when we went there (DBro was little and my parents didn’t fancy a long journey with a toddler).

Similar age to LT, went to school about 15 miles from Leeds. I didn't go on a plane til I was 10. I had one friend who went to Florida every year but the rest of the kids at my school were working class, farmers' kids who went to Blackpool.

What is the point you are trying to make? How many Labour MPs do you think went to private schools? Jeremy Corbyn for one!! How many of them do you think sent their kids to private school? Do you think they all live on council estates?
Do some research before you post, it might prevent you making yourself look like an idiot

Hi Liz

I am (to my shock and horror) a year old than LT. I went to a comp that was pretty crappy and looked down on by everyone I knew who attended any of the other schools in the area. It is now highly sort after, rated outstanding and my nephew's who live in the same street as my school 'bestie' back in the day are well outside of the catchment area which has shrunk despite the school growing because it is now highly regarded so I don't think the reputation of LT's former school now can be used to judge what it was like 30 odd years ago.
My first plane flight holiday was aged 8 and we had one most years after that (sometimes it would be ferry - it depended on the location). Half way through secondary we had a holiday in the USA - that was less common but not unique and happened for us because my parents flights were cover by a work event so they only had to pay for flights for my siblings and I. I would say we were 'middle class' but not posh and plenty of my class mates holidayed abroad, including (gasp) some of the ones from the council estate!

I'm 10 years older than her , my parents worked their socks off to take us abroad when I was 6 (Freddy Laker -Benidorm )

Same here, I'm 44 and flew for the first time at about 6.

Yes, I did. I think I'm a few years older than LT. Back then it was common to go into the flight cabin and be allowed to sit on the pilots knee & 'fly the plane' I have pilot & hostess badges. Handing out the sweets was always fun! I wasn't 'posh'.

@EvilRingahBitch

The Costas were full to the brim with UK tourists in the 1980s and it really wasn't only the top ten percent who were in them.

Agreed.

Whilst the Easyjet/Ryanair LoCo model of sales/ticketing/flying didn't get been imported from the US until (I think) the early 90's, for a few decades prior to that plenty of Brits flew to the likes of Spain for their hols on flights tied to package tours..

A few airline names from the era that some might remember..

Britannia
Court Line
Dan Air
Orion
Air Europe.....

Back in the day flight deck visits were allowed, badges and stickers did sometimes get handed out....whether PMLT really got a Stewardess badge, who knows...

That is unusual though! My uncles are plumbers, electricians and steelworkers (Yorkshire), and they all went abroad every year in the 80s.

I agree, my family were in construction, and we went abroad mid 1980s onwards every year, as did all the small traders my dad knew. Spent Xmas 1985 in the Canary Islands with our family friends also from the U.K. We always had one big holiday a year, often in term time which was fairly normal then.

I’m two years older and went to state school. My parents both worked full time & we did holiday but never flew. We mostly went to French campsites on the ferry, coach to Spain a couple of times.

My first flight was with friends at 18 when I had started work.

A handful of my school friends flew on holidays but it was maybe 2/3 from the class, the clearly rich kids.

I am the same age and went to an inner city school.

I and many of my peers went abroad on holiday most years.

@hesbeingabitofadick

Call bullshit all you like, it just makes you look foolish. 💁🏻‍♀️

im 53, first flight at 6. By 1989 I'd flown around the world 🌎 twice. And was living overseas (flew there) as an adult.

@EvilRingahBitch

The Costas were full to the brim with UK tourists in the 1980s and it really wasn't only the top ten percent who were in them.

Exactly. It wasn't just a "rich" thing. My family are working class and having a package holiday abroad was a thing many people did in the 80s. I think maybe some people just didn't really have any idea what their classmates were doing.

Same age and went to a comp. Didn't go on a plane until my 20's. Went to the continent on a ferry twice.
Parents had a mortgage and worked.

I went to a comprehensive school and didn’t go on a plane until my twenties, but I did travel to the Isles of Scilly by helicopter a few times in my teens!

I’m a couple of months younger than her. My dad taught at the school she went to (although not when she was there).

I went to a comprehensive school in the North West and went on an aeroplane a few times when I was growing up. Quite a few people at school went abroad on holiday.