Thai nursery massacre(Warning very disturbing)

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www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-asia-63156417

I know that posting won't help but this story is just so unimaginably horrific that I can't ignore it either.

Yet another pathetic inadequate piece of shit man who decides to take his impotency and rage out on innocent women and children, including his own family . I'm beyond sick of male violence.

Horrific doesn't begin to cover it. Those poor parents, teachers and babies.

No it's a male violence problem. It's men. It's not all men but it's enough of them that every day women and children are raped, murdered, abused, so we need to be honest about it. Angry young and not-so-young men are a problem in our society.

Thank you, you put it much more eloquently than I did.
This is my point, if it was a crime done by a female and we said the same about women it would be deemed sexist.

Members of either sex are capable of the most horrific crimes they are just usually different in nature.

Start a thread pointing out female killers etc and I bet it would immediately be women shouting NAW. Men however are apparently fair game. Fact is it is not all men and not all women who do terrible things. . I don't know why some posters use it as an opportunity to blame all men - sons, fathers, grandfathers, brothers, uncles and so on. The man who killed these poor children didn't do it because he thought he had male superiority.

I don't know if you're deliberately missing the point or just not quite getting it.

If the perpetrators of these acts were equally male and female, then you'd have a point. But they're not.

Nobody thinks that all men are capable of this. Nobody thinks all men are evil.

What we know is that the people who commit these crimes are overwhelmingly male. This indicates a problem - there is clearly something happening to boys and men that is leading to this.

The first serial killer in the UK was actually a woman, she used poison which women are more likely to use, to kill 11 children and 10 men.
This does not make us plagues of the earth or mean we are all going to poison men/children

Horrific. So many dead, how is that even achievable you've got to be a monster, inhuman.

This. We need to acknowledge and address male violence. That doesn’t mean all men are capable of this but that violent crime is overwhelmingly perpetrated by men.

Ot course we wouldn't say that if a woman had done it because it would be so incredibly incredibly unusual for a woman to carry out that kind of crime. Women don't carry out mass shootings, murder nurseries full of children, shoot up schools. Of course there are plenty of crimes women do, but they are not mass annihilators. Those are male crimes. Pretending we don't have a problem with men doesn't make it go away🤷‍♀️ No one is accusing your uncle Bert of being a mass murderer.

Even when women do abuse children, there's almost always a man behind it, prompting, grooming, persuading, threatening. Male violence is pervasive and widespread. And I'm sick of angry little men destroying the lives of others.

I understand the theme of male violence, but we also need to address that this is what taking drugs can do to the brain.

There is no such thing as a "safe" narcotic.

It’s not all men, but it’s almost always men who commit these atrocities.

mmmflakycrust81 · Today 11:03
Men are truly a plague on this earth.

some obviously think men are the issue.

Nothing happens to them, men are more likely to commit violent crimes like this, its how we are built. There are more shootings as guns are more available nowadays. Which is why America tends to have a lot more, as some states guns are widely available.

The point a few of us are trying to get across is there is a lot of man bashing on this thread. If this had been another case of a woman abusing her child which we have had many of over the years and someone posted that "Women are the plague of earth" etc it would be deemed to be sexist.

It’s 99.99999999 % men. Can’t think of any woman who has ever committed a crime any what similar

@Monkeybutt1 "Nothing happens to them, men are more likely to commit violent crimes like this, its how we are built"

You don't think that anything is going on to influence make violence? You think men are essentially infinitely more likely to commit mass murder and atrocities just because of their gender, and you think that the people whe want to tackle the causes of male violence are the ones who hate men? Okay... 😳

The NAMALTs have sunk to a new low making this thread about them.

That's my point entirely
Women are more likely to poison etc so their crimes are less visible, less physical. It's generally a different kind of violence but women still commit terrible crimes. Not all women. Not all men.
People making comments like "Men are the plaque of the earth" are just an opportunity to bash men again. Yes, this man killing these poor, innocent babies and a pregnant teacher was most definitely a plaque on the earth, as are women who torture and kill
Can't we just see these sick people for what they are rather than homing in on their gender.

How despicable and pointless, those poor poor families.
I'm sure I'm not the only one working with a lump in their throats thinking of our babies at nursery.

@KhaleesiDothraki when we say "male problem", we don't mean it's a problem that all men must answer for. We mean it's clearly a gendered issue.

Absolutely. How incredibly distasteful of all these apologists coming on a thread about yet another man committing extreme mass violence and screeching that it’s not all men and pointing out a woman shot three people once. May I point your attention to:

Sandy Hook - man
Columbine - men
Virginia Tech - man
Uvalde - man
Aurora - man
Dunblane - man

Ad infinitum, it seems. Obviously not every single man. But it is 99% men, and that is a problem.

But we don't. It's true that such horrific crimes are invariably committed by men, but they are such a tiny percentage of the men in the world, it's eminently unfair to call it a men/male problem.

Well, either a small percentage of men are carrying out a significant amount of violence or it's more men than you think.

We haven't apologised for anything, we have said what he did was wicked and despicable. The point some of us are trying to make is this should not be about the fact he was a man.
I thought this was a forum for adults but instead anyone who has a differing opinion on this is being sworn at and called names and that is distasteful

The "all men" brigade triggered it though as they were the first to comment that men are the plaque of the earth etc . They began (very predictably) by taking the thread as their chance to bash men . The not all men posters only responded in kind to point out female crimes etc and rightly say, "not all men".