So the maximum an average family can pay for fuel bills is £2500 ?

[Champainesocialist]

According to the PM this morning. I actually thought it would be worse. At least families will have some certainty.

Plus that's not what she said. She said "no family will pay more than £2500"

It's also having a positive effect on my energy usage - I haven't touched the heating yet, and I wanted to this week. There will be a lot of cold older people in hospital this winter but certainly many of us will be more efficient with our energy use.

We had a meeting a school for a group of parents yesterday afternoon who were talking about it. They were pleased and relieved by what she’d said about the cap on the radio-like she’d clarified something they weren’t sure about.

Lots of people genuinely believe that if the PM comes out and says something like that, it’s true.

She should be told to apologise and spell out exactly what she meant.

I have had talks at work about this and there are people who just don't get it.

It's like they glaze over.

It's not true, mine has gone up to £4,000!

Our forecasted bill for the upcoming year is £4000. I really wish they'd stop banging on about this £2500 price cap.

There are going to be an awful lot of very surprised people when they eventually get their quarterly bills 😡

You pay for what you use Can people really think it won’t go past a set figure if they use more Surely no one is that stupid Use more pay more

The Prime Minister said, multiple times "We have taken action by the government stepping in, making sure that nobody is paying more than £2500"

"Through the energy price guarantee the maximum will be £2500"

What were people supposed to think that means?

@maximist
A good efficient new boiler would probably cost them c £2000 to install but reduce their gas use massively (also much less risk of it going wrong in the depths of winter).
With bills of £6000 I’m guessing they can afford to replace it? Encourage them to get some quotes!

@maximist
check out their insulation too!

Yes, many people really are that stupid.
They see a headline, believe it, and look no
further.
It partly explains Johnson’s Tory party’s success 🙄

It's not a "headline" . It is what the Prime Minister told them. Repeatedly.

Ok, they hear a soundbite, believe it, and look no further.
Explains Johnson’s Tory party’s success even more accurately.

No again, it's not a sound bite. It's a lie. Which was repeated multiple times.

Obviously if you've been following the crisis, you'd know, but why on earth would anyone have to expect that a black and white statement the PM, made multiple times needs checking?

Don't blame the public for the fact that they've been lied to.

If the public haven’t got the intelligence to realise that they can’t use as much as they like and only pay £2500, even if that is what the PM said (& it’s easy enough to check, god knows) then yes, I blame them.
If they were actually listening to any (all?) of her local radio interviews they should be able to tell she doesn't know what she’s talking about (& if they weren’t, where did they hear it, unless in excerpts saying it wasn’t true?)
I blame her too.

If the public haven’t got the intelligence to realise that they can’t use as much as they like and only pay £2500, even if that is what the PM said (& it’s easy enough to check, god knows) then yes, I blame them.

Why aren’t you blaming the PM for not having the intelligence to check she understands her own policies before talking about them to the public?

If it is now the basic assumption that nothing the PM says is true, then isn’t that a problem? It’s certainly a problem with the PM and not with the public.

It's not really about intelligence. It's odd terminology which has only recently been adopted by media. Before things started going crazy no one talked about 'average cost of fuel' and everyone knew that people all paid random amounts depending on tariffs, which energy company they were with and how much they had their heating on. Then the media all adopted this overhead figure and expected people to cotton on.

@GiantKitten

Some people aren't as intelligent as others but you don't have to be so horrible calling them stupid.

I've explained the price cap to a few people who were confused what it meant.

We already pay £3600 a month so fab news if it’s being capped at £2500!
Except I know it’s not, and that our new PM hasn’t got a fucking clue, as always.

I’m assuming this post is a pisstake?

Surely the fact that there are already people out there using over £3000 worth of energy begs the question, wtf are you running that you use that much?

If you’re running your sauna and heating your swimming pool before you go into the hot tub and are tumble drying everything then that might rack up to that kind of figure.

But a £3000 energy bill before the tariff increases is obscene, and I don’t believe that a large amount of that use isn’t excessive and can be cut.

Nobody should have to scrimp on e.g. heating etc, but I do think that we should recognise that many people use energy frivolously and that there are cuts that can be made.

The Treasury was putting out guff last night about how much a person on £30k buying a terraced house in London as a first time buyer would save with this budget.

Like that’s a remotely plausible scenario.

The govt have no clue what normal people’s finances look like, or the cost of things. They probably think people couldn’t possibly pay more than £2500 on energy, because that would be ridiculous.

I think someone should send this to the pm she obviously needs it spelling out to her in simple terms

wtf are you running that you use that much

Keeping fish. Didn't realise how much that cost. Some fish have gone.

Surely the fact that there are already people out there using over £3000 worth of energy begs the question, wtf are you running that you use that much?

I have a disabled child who requires particular equipment.