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Death certificate cause of death

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asblindasabat · 29/09/2022 14:24

My question is based on the fact the Queen’s death certificate has been released and it says the cause of death was “old age”

Obviously, that is true but I didn’t think an official record of a person’s death would record the cause using such a basic term?

I thought it would have to be the actual scientific/medical cause of death?

Just curious!

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LosingTheWill2022 · 29/09/2022 15:25

lollipoprainbow · 29/09/2022 15:20

@Celticandco you've totally missed my point but thanks for your patronising response.

Is your point that she would have been under medical care for something other than old age? Because that doesn't hold true. Gerontology is a whole area of medicine with lots of medical intervention and support for the individual but the elderly person can still die of old age.

Toddlerteaplease · 29/09/2022 15:26

asblindasabat · 29/09/2022 14:34

Interesting.

I did think that perhaps the certificate would have to say, for example, heart attack or stroke/ brain haemorrhage or whatever scientific names they use for those

It would. But she obviously didn't have any of those things. I think other than her mobility issues, she was in good health.

Abraxan · 29/09/2022 15:27

'old age' is still put on some heat certificate. DH deals with a lot of death certificates due to his work and I asked him the same question.

JesusInTheCabbageVan · 29/09/2022 15:29

SunflowerSmith · 29/09/2022 14:31

I also wondered the same but old age seems so vague when she was up and working two days before meeting Liz Truss.

Cause of death: Liz Truss.

Recycledblonde · 29/09/2022 15:30

My FIL died in June this year aged 94 and his death certificate said old age as the cause of death. His organs failed and he died due to his organs being very old. He didn't have any diagnosed conditions at all.

StealingYourWiFi · 29/09/2022 15:31

I attended some post mortems some years ago which were fascinating. All patients were a similar age. There were 3 patients. 2 patients were obvious - a blood clot in the heart and the other had a bleed in the brain. The third had no obvious problem so they deemed ‘old age’. Patient was in their 90s.

Friarclose · 29/09/2022 15:32

I work in deceased accounts for a large financial organisation and I can confirm old age is on many certificates I've seen.

lollipoprainbow · 29/09/2022 15:32

@LosingTheWill2022 people don't generally get placed under medical supervision for being old do they ?!

AuntieMarys · 29/09/2022 15:32

She was very lucky

Novum · 29/09/2022 15:32

I assume that tells us she didn't have something like a stroke or a heart attack? There's been quite a lot of speculation that it was one or the other.

JesusInTheCabbageVan · 29/09/2022 15:34

Tort · 29/09/2022 15:14

I need to go back over that thread where people’s important DHs were told about the death early. I’m sure some were claiming well before 3pm

I already did Grin because I'm that petty.

A few minutes after she died, someone was claiming that they heard 'hours ago' that she had already died, and that Councils had already been informed. Looking at you, @montysma1.

LosingTheWill2022 · 29/09/2022 15:42

lollipoprainbow · 29/09/2022 15:32

@LosingTheWill2022 people don't generally get placed under medical supervision for being old do they ?!

Of course they do.
Especially if you're the Queen.
My Dad had lots of visits from the GP and District nurses in the last few years of his life. He was slowly dying of old age and they monitored and treated what they could during that time. His mobility went and he had infections etc. all associated with being in his 90s. And the cause of death is still cited as "old age".
If he'd been the king those visits would have been from the Royal physician or whoever it is.

montysma1 · 29/09/2022 15:43

JesusInTheCabbageVan · 29/09/2022 15:34

I already did Grin because I'm that petty.

A few minutes after she died, someone was claiming that they heard 'hours ago' that she had already died, and that Councils had already been informed. Looking at you, @montysma1.

😂😂😂😂
Seriously get a life. You have made my day.

But for the record, my father died at some point in the early hours, with a death certificate stating 2pm the next day.

DramaAlpaca · 29/09/2022 15:44

My grandmother's death certificate from 2003 record her cause of death as 'old age'. She was 98 and quite simply there was nothing wrong with her except the frailty of old age.

rocketfromthecrypt · 29/09/2022 15:44

Lots of modern death certificates say either 'old age' or 'frailty of old age'. People don't last forever.

Rockbird · 29/09/2022 15:45

The woman had absolutely no privacy in life, she is entitled to some in death. She was very old, that reason enough.

hilbil21 · 29/09/2022 15:46

My Nana had the same cause of death at 89. That was in 2001.

blockpavingismynightmare · 29/09/2022 15:47

So this will put paid to the theory according to Lady Colin Campbell who said the Queen had bone cancer and died at 1.40pm ??

asblindasabat · 29/09/2022 15:52

blockpavingismynightmare · 29/09/2022 15:47

So this will put paid to the theory according to Lady Colin Campbell who said the Queen had bone cancer and died at 1.40pm ??

Well I’m assuming we will go by what the death certificate says as it wouldn’t be allowed to be made up?

not sure where lady Colin Campbell got that info from.

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blockpavingismynightmare · 29/09/2022 16:01

Sorry my mistake. She announced that the Queen had died at 2.37pm

fuzzyduck1 · 29/09/2022 16:01

Maybe she died from an overdose of Truss

AnnaMagnani · 29/09/2022 16:10

It was obvious after Philip that the Queen's certificate would say Old Age as well.

Both of them very obviously had medical problems that were being closely monitored but it is entirely acceptable to write Old Age for those who are very old, so the palace medical team had an excellent way to give both of them some confidentiality.

Personally I'd only use Old Age if there was absolutely nothing else I could think of to put, and I very much doubt this was the case for either the Queen or Philip.

But both of them were very old so it is a very clever solution.

BlodynGwyn · 29/09/2022 16:14

Maybe they didn't want to autopsy her body just to satisfy people's curiosity.

Shellingbynight · 29/09/2022 16:24

My grandparents died ten years ago, at home. Their death certificates said the cause of death was old age. They were 93 and 97.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 29/09/2022 16:27

asblindasabat · 29/09/2022 15:52

Well I’m assuming we will go by what the death certificate says as it wouldn’t be allowed to be made up?

not sure where lady Colin Campbell got that info from.

Out of her arse like everything else she says.

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