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It’s not looking good is it?

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User15384 · 28/09/2022 21:37

Cost of living crisis
Choice between heating v eating
Pound dramatically falling
Higher interest rates
NHS on brink of collapse

And now the warning of a flu-covid “twindemic” this Winter

It’s all quite overwhelming and sad and seems to be never ending 😞

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Bollindger · 29/09/2022 10:42

Hardship is living in a tent with no money, one meal a day, no heating and ill children.
What we have happening is uncertain times, but we have a roof over our heads and money.

IhateHermioneGranger · 29/09/2022 10:42

Avoid the news is what I say.

antelopevalley · 29/09/2022 10:42

antelopevalley · 29/09/2022 10:37

I am sure the government have criticised the IMF for what they said. The reality is the IMF extremely rarely say anything about government financial policies. The fact they have shows how serious this all is.

The last time I remember the IMF being publicly critical of government economic policies was with Greece which was on the brink of financial collapse as a country.

The IMF criticising UK government policy and urging them to reverse it is a massive deal.

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antelopevalley · 29/09/2022 10:43

Bollindger · 29/09/2022 10:42

Hardship is living in a tent with no money, one meal a day, no heating and ill children.
What we have happening is uncertain times, but we have a roof over our heads and money.

So anything less than absolute subsistence and we should all be grateful?

ThatGirlInACountrySong · 29/09/2022 10:45

Life wasn't perfect 'before' was it? Before this cost of living crisis which it's been named oh so dramatically

Things have gone up in price .... that's what it is. Prices have gone up regularly in the past only this time it's been given a dramatic title

antelopevalley · 29/09/2022 10:47

A dramatic title?
You think food prices increasing by over 10% so far this year is normal?
Or the dramatic rises in energy?
Or maybe you are so well off that another £100 a week on energy and food is neither here no there?

cloutneerbeout · 29/09/2022 10:48

whoopdedo · 28/09/2022 21:45

I feel like the media have been out of control the past 5 years. Ultimately the media rules the roost in life. If the media could just stop so would do many of our problems.

How would the media stopping mean people who can't currently afford to heat their homes be able to heat their homes?

Give me strength.

ThatGirlInACountrySong · 29/09/2022 10:49

I'm not spending £100 a week more on food.

Ponkyandthebrain · 29/09/2022 10:49

SarahSissions · 29/09/2022 10:24

@antelopevalley the IMF have been criticised over being overly political and overstepping their remit on this. They are an incredibly partisan organisation.

Criticised by who??? Crackpot elements of the Tory party who are in cahoots with the institute of economic affairs. Who while we are on the subject are a good example of an ‘incredibly partisan organisation’ to put it mildly. It will come out of the woodwork who is funding them at some point and I’ll eat my hat if it’s not some very familiar names we’ve already seen cashing in on shorting the pound.

antelopevalley · 29/09/2022 10:49

I think there are a lot of very well-off people in the UK who are making money out of this financial crisis. Some of them may be on here telling us all there is no issue at all. Life is normal. The Bank of England and the IMF are just wrong and there is no need to worry our pretty little heads about anything.

Gymgo · 29/09/2022 10:50

Intrest rates have been so low for so long , surely people should have been overpaying on the mortage ? Or investing

Too many people living on the never never , look at inflation around the world its the same

Notonthestairs · 29/09/2022 10:51

It's almost the squeeze on wages and rising inflation passes certain people by.

antelopevalley · 29/09/2022 10:51

Gymgo · 29/09/2022 10:50

Intrest rates have been so low for so long , surely people should have been overpaying on the mortage ? Or investing

Too many people living on the never never , look at inflation around the world its the same

Yep how dare people not be rich. Only got themselves to blame.

Bananarama21 · 29/09/2022 10:52

Ive been to tesco and the prices have raisen again. We are two parent working family we shouldn't be struggling or worrying about money. We shouldn't be working to barely survive. I'm surprised there's not rioting and out rageml.

Bearsan · 29/09/2022 10:53

Blossomtoes · 29/09/2022 10:33

Gaslighting - making someone seem or feel unstable, irrational and not credible, making them feel like what they're seeing or experiencing isn't real, that they're making it up.

It's not real for us and loads of other people.
We don't all need or want to join in with
"the sky is falling in" fearfest, over and over.
It's exhausting.

Canthave2manycats · 29/09/2022 10:55

BloodyHellKen · 28/09/2022 22:05

I'm getting on a bit and have been around the block many times OP. If it's any consolation my attitude is 'meh' to the whole situation.

I've lived through better and I've lived through worse and I'm not going to get stressed and sad because what is the point.

This ^ There is literally no point in worrying about what you can't change. Just prepare as best you can - if you can. Just try to take it as it comes.

Gymgo · 29/09/2022 10:56

Never said that , but far too many people blame others in 2005 my rate was 7% for my first house

Liebig · 29/09/2022 10:56

ThatGirlInACountrySong · 29/09/2022 10:45

Life wasn't perfect 'before' was it? Before this cost of living crisis which it's been named oh so dramatically

Things have gone up in price .... that's what it is. Prices have gone up regularly in the past only this time it's been given a dramatic title

How clueless are you?

TooBigForMyBoots · 29/09/2022 10:57

Gymgo · 29/09/2022 10:50

Intrest rates have been so low for so long , surely people should have been overpaying on the mortage ? Or investing

Too many people living on the never never , look at inflation around the world its the same

The pay freezes imposed by the Tory government as part of their Austerity policy meant that as the years went by, people's wages fell in real terms. So they weren't able to pay more on their mortgages.

Bearsan · 29/09/2022 11:00

antelopevalley · 29/09/2022 10:51

Yep how dare people not be rich. Only got themselves to blame.

Gymgo
Tut Tut.... you aren't ever allowed on MN to suggest that people should be responsible for their own finances. When they can blame everyone else - parents, landlords, people who have worked their way up to decent jobs or saved and invested their spare money, rich people and so on.

Liebig · 29/09/2022 11:01

Gymgo · 29/09/2022 10:56

Never said that , but far too many people blame others in 2005 my rate was 7% for my first house

And what was the house price and the pound worth?

A lot of people don’t seem to be getting how serious this is for the UK economy. This is nothing remotely like the ‘90s house crash even 2008. Everything systemically broken is still there and, on top of it, less buffer to just print more debt to get out of this.

This the credit card company calling time on your out of control spending at the same time that your roof is leaking and your job is being reviewed by HR. It’s about the worst combination of events combined with total lack of leadership or fundamental support.

AndTwoFilmsByFrancoisTruffaut · 29/09/2022 11:05

lurchermummy · 29/09/2022 07:54

How many of you lived through the 70s/80s? They were shit. High unemployment, high inflation, I lived in an area where the mines were being shut down, we had power cuts, bin strikes, bread strikes, constant doom and gloom about acid rain and the Cold War, riots, the Falkland war, I could go on. Yes it's crap now and Covid was obviously unique but a lot of the doom
and gloom is media generated - it sells papers.

👋🏼

It was shit. We had no money, no heating, food cupboard nearly always empty, depressed mother, equally depressed father. I went to school in my own clothes as we couldn’t afford the uniform. The shame! Living in the fear of a nuclear attack and then AIDS. It was bleak, but I appreciate that for some this is their reality in 2022 (maybe not AIDS anymore..) BUT we didn’t have a constant source of social media shoving the gloom in our faces 24/7.

I’m thankfully well off now but I remember those days with such feelings of sadness.

And yes to the media hyping up the despair currently. I only pay attention to serious news sources. Even the Telegraph has turned into a red top masquerading as a broadsheet. Sensationalism everywhere. No escape from it.

Toddlerteaplease · 29/09/2022 11:07

whoopdedo · 28/09/2022 21:45

I feel like the media have been out of control the past 5 years. Ultimately the media rules the roost in life. If the media could just stop so would do many of our problems.

Absolutely this! 24 hour rolling news doesn't help.

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Gymgo · 29/09/2022 10:56

Never said that , but far too many people blame others in 2005 my rate was 7% for my first house

Yes but your house probably cost much less in proportion with your earnings. I paid 7% for my first mortgage in the late 90s but my flat (in London, admittedly a less desirable part) cost £45K!

I think some people have only got themselves to blame for their financial situations buying a house which is too expensive for their means. But the majority just want somewhere to live.

And some people took a chance and it paid off. I know someone who bought a house costing nearly £500K, got an interest-only mortgage as it was the only way they could afford it. Six months ago they sold for £900K and downsized. They had enough to pay off the mortgage and buy a cheaper house outright. And timed it perfectly!

My greatest fear now is hyperinflation. We seem to have some of the key components that lead to it...

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