"Quiet Quitting" - some more American nonsense pushed onto the world?

[JazbayGrapes]

And like... its a bad thing?

What is it?

It’s just a phrase that represents a behavioural phenomenon. What’s your issue exactly?

What is it?

Its a trending phrase, meaning you only do the work that your contract specifies. No going "above and beyond", no volunteering for overtimes, no answering out of hours phonecalls or emails.
Apparently it's a big concern for employers and they don't know what to do with such a "lazy" workforce.

What's the difference between this and working to rule?

So work to rule under a new name

It’s just a phrase that represents a behavioural phenomenon. What’s your issue exactly?

Everyone is suddently talking and writing about it like it's something new and unexpected, and apparently bad.

I can see why that exists. I've worked places where they just took took took and never even gave me so much as job security.
Quiet quitting is a perfect way to describe that stage where you have realised that the employer will never value you or promote you.

That’s not really what the expression means. It means doing only as much as you can get away with, and spending the rest of the day surfing the net, or other activities if wfh. Yes, not new for some of the workforce, but I don’t know how anyone could see this as acceptable.

It's hilarious how many employers (incl media owners) are totally horrified by the idea that people would actually limit themselves to doing the job they're paid to do, rather than constantly putting their employers' needs above their own for little to no reward.

Quiet quitting is a terrible term for it, though it's def captured imaginations and I suppose I can see it in terms of 'quitting' the unpaid work they're doing alongside what they're contracted for.

I think it's good.
People should know it's ok not to invest your future in to a company that takes you for granted.
How is a phrase that validates undervalued employees bad!

I've heard this twice recently from a certain demographic in work explaining it to me as if it was a new thing they invented 🙄

Nope.

Quiet quitting

I quite like 'work your wage' as a phrase.

As I've grown older I've become much less inclined to do all the weekends, work until midnight every night, pick up all the extra 'corporate contributions' which add extra burdens without them being eased anywhere else.

I recognise though that I'm privileged to be able to make this choice because I'm now quite senior and gave up so much of my life to various employers early in my career. Kudos to the people doing it from the start.

Sounds like a stupid phrase to describe something most people do anyway? Why should you be expected you go above and beyond for work. No thanks, once my times up I am out the door.

I’m American and I find the phrase hilarious. It’s a younger generation trying to give a cute name to something everyone realizes after a few years on the workforce. No matter how much you give and how hard you try, they will never fully reward your efforts. Just doing an excellent job will essentially get you to the same place as working yourself to death.

Yes "work yr wage" is perfect

I used to bend over backwards in a Job I was in, I even cancelled annual leave because they wouldn't hire more staff. I was so over worked and yet undervalued. I left and they were badly stuck for a while until they pulled people off other teams, which if they'd listened to our requests for them to do just that earlier then they wouldn't have lost experienced staff.

Where I am now I am giving it 100% again but I won't cancel my AL!! I won't give hours of free labour.

Sounds like a stupid phrase to describe something most people do anyway? Why should you be expected you go above and beyond for work. No thanks, once my times up I am out the door.

This!

Because the work culture in many US workplaces is different, perhaps, from what prevails in other countries? I'm American, and I've had several jobs where I was expected to work above and beyond the normal 40-hour work week. That culture is gradually changing in the US, and "quiet quitting" is just the term that has emerged to describe it.

This is a big thing in academia at the moment. The sector has relied on academics working excessive hours and taking on additional (including external work for other universities) for years. People are pulling back within their own institutions and it's nearly impossible to find external academics to (e.g.) review programmes, examine PhD theses, etc. I can see why (people are exhausted, unrewarded, etc.) but as someone who is a head of department it's very difficult to manage.

In my sector, it is actually something new.

Quiet quitting is something most people do once they get a family and realise they can’t work 60-70 hr weeks when most of it’s unpaid. It’s only been highlighted now because young people are trying to do it. What they don’t realise is that this unpaid labour often provides the training and opportunities so you can work to rule later on.

I don't think this is necessarily true in professions where you bill your time to a client.

Yes, an American term for normal working life for most people. There are industries where going above and beyond is the norm (academia, nursing, teaching etc.) but in those industries this has always been known as work to rule.

The phrase annoys me, but that's because I'm now Old and therefore get annoyed when the younger generation reinvents something and writes earnest articles as if it's a totally new concept.

American work culture is fucking weird and I don’t want it.
I have ALWAYS turned up, done my job and gone home and I’ve never had any issues with it.
One of the most important lessons about work is that your boss is not your friend and you should never work for free, in my opinion.
I get what it’s trying to explain, but the term “quiet quitting” is wank. It’s just “doing your actual job”.

I’m all for it. You want above and beyond? You got it. If you pay above and beyond.

You pay minimum wage you, get minimum work. You want skills, experience, loyalty, dedication, flexibility, additional availability? You pay for it. Those add value to an employee beyond minimum wage, or even the standard wage for the position. It’s hard to ‘work your way up’ now. Often you strive and put the hours in and still get shafted, because they stick to the minimum of the law and your contract. Why not, you did the extra stuff of your own free will. They didn’t require it. So they don’t owe you for it with bonuses or promotion opportunities. There’s no reciprocity at work now. They just take what they can.

One of the most important lessons about work is that your boss is not your friend and you should never work for free, in my opinion.

Totally. Also when employers/managers say "we're like a big family" its always cringe.