"Quiet Quitting" - some more American nonsense pushed onto the world?

[JazbayGrapes]

And like... its a bad thing?

@shedwithivy yes initially I do believe it was people quitting (not showing up no notice) and finding employment elsewhere. That is now called ghosting.

I think mansplaining is a useful subset of patronising, where the circumstances are specifically a man telling a woman information that is neither wanted or needed usually because of some assumed intellectual or other superiority. Like the random man in the park earlier who overheard me asking my friend if she'd been to a specific place. He just had to jump in and tell me where it was, even though it should have been fairly obvious that I already knew that, considering I was the one who'd raised the topic, and the private conversation was fuck all to do with him.

I've always done that. My time is valuable to me; for rest relaxation, socialising, recreation etc. Why should I give my time to an employer for free?

Surely every single person over 45 is doing this? Any many long before that.

Also I don't understand how it's lazy if you're doing everything your contract asks of you? Surely it's just having good boundaries and not letting your employers take the piss any more?

My OH had no recognition and started this after 18 years of going out of his way, getting in early etc etc. The year he stopped giving a shit he got an award!

I've 'quiet quit' as a precursor to 'actually quitting' and 'actually being employed elsewhere'.

Why? Because I gave them loads of chances to use my effort and skills. After a certain point of telling people they're not doing anything the legally correct way, you stop giving a fuck.

Absolutely!

There was a thread last week where someone was asking about their entitlement as a part time worker to a day in lieu after the Bank Holiday fell on her day off. The forelock-tuggers arrived on schedule telling her to suck it up and think about the pressure the unscheduled day off was putting on her employers.

I work in HR and honestly don’t understand why a typical worker in the U.K. would go above and beyond their contracted responsibilities, outside of trying to gain more experience for a promotion or similar.

Obviously teachers and HCP do it all the time, which is amazing, but no one is going to die because Jo in Finance didn’t stay late to finish the weekly report or whatever.

My current role is part time. I'm paid £10.50 an hour for 4 x 6hr shifts a week.

I have to clock in and start work quarter an hour before I start getting paid. I have to be physically working 15 minutes before they start paying me!

I also get half an hour taken out for a break. This break isn't guaranteed, depending on how run off our feet we are (it's very physical) you cannot leave clients in need to pop off and take a break.

Add to that I pay out of pocket for an organisation registration each year, I have to do a specific college qualification at my own cost and come in for unpaid training days some times lasting up to 6 hours. I also have to do a lot of home online training in my own time. It's something like 60 - 70 hours worth a year so far.

Recently a manager told us we needed to do a work task before we come in for our shift. It can take 10 or so minutes but needs to be done before the 15 minutes unpaid start time. Fuck that. My part time hourly wage job is being made out like it's an important salaried career where there is give and take on my working times or even aims for promotion. There isn't unless I want to make my little PT job FT. Which I don't.

The work task that's extra on my already extra time just isn't getting done now. I'm happy to do it when being paid but I'm a believer in the "work to" rule. Quiet quitting isn't a new thing, just a new name, but it's not a bad thing.

It's not something most people have done up to now in the US where you are expected to be so grateful to have a job that you do whatever it takes to look as if you're worthy of it.

It's a very refreshing change in work culture in the US.

If employers want the extra mile (and they do) they're going to have to fork over the extra money for it.

Oh lordy, I misread this as Quiet Quilting. Couldn't make out what a rather traditional craft had to do with office jargon. Oops!

my DH once signed up to a Gliding activity only to find out it was actually Gilding! He left after 5mins🤣

It's even taught on HR courses that treating staff with decency and respect improves morale and therefore increases productivity. It's been proven. That means that organisations need to maintain good and genuine values. If they don't, they will need to expect the consequences. Everyone is the same in this respect, really.

It's becoming more widespread that people are left to get on with their life. I believe in some places like Germany companies are not allowed to phone or email staff sbout work out of hours.

Surely the term should be "doing your job" do the job you are contracted to do and only ever work the hours your paid to do. It is high time bosses realised that they don't own their staff.

🤣yes, this.
The "happy, caring " company I used to work for can't keep or hire senior staff anymore and it's Glassdoor reviews are hilarious 😂