Harry - regretful?

[Brasschamberstick]

Do we think after seeing the magnificence of yesterday that he is regretting giving it all up?

He looks so angry and unhappy all the time now?

He can indeed say what he likes, however true or untrue, because he knows that the RF will not lower themselves to contradict him, nothing he says was done or said can be verified as true. That beautiful phrase 'recollections vary' is as close as the RF has come to saying You're a liar.

i do not think this trip home has done anything to improve his mental health. Parts of the media as well as ordinary people have criticised everything he and his wife have done. The only thing I have not seen him accused of, is killing his Grandmother.

I see him as someone who is hardly keeping it together at the moment. Hopefully they will go back to the States, he will finish his book and he will get a sense of relief.

As in all these family dramas, there have been wrongs on all sides. No one can have a completely clear conscience,

Would you go on the rich persons equivalent of Jeremy Kyle though? I don't think the issue is that he left, the issue is that he left then bitched to anyone that would listen. Realistically speaking if you knew someone was a gossip which Harry clearly is then you keep your mouth shut around them. A week before the queen died Meghan was happily telling everyone how they didn't make her sign an NDA so she can say whatever she wants about them, Harry has a tell all book coming out in a few months. You'd be a fucking eejit to relax around them knowing that anything you say especially in a time of grief and stress like now will more than likely make it into the public domain.

He has just lost his beloved grandmother. What do you expect him to look like ffs?
He should have probably done a jig and laughed just to prove how ‘happy ‘ he is.
The only time he looks unhappy is when he is England. When he is in LA he looks perfectly happy and content tbh.
I honesty don’t think he has any regrets about leaving and I don’t blame him after some of the articles and MN threads I have seen .
Even if he and Meghan split up ( like so many wish ) , he will still remain in America.

@MissingNashville As the Queen said at the time "collections may vary" and when you know someone has frequent form for telling blatant lies, it's hard to take a word seriously.

recollections

Of course the Games are a thing but if you think he spends all his time poring over spreadsheets of arrangements then you're seriously deluded.

this is so true. He's not the sharpest pencil in the box, and a bit of a rebel, and I do think he genuinely hates the limelight but he's somehow got himself caught up with this woman who pathologically LOVES the limelight (all attention good or bad!à.

It’s like some people on here actively want their marriage to fail, or want them to be unhappy.

They made a decision that was right for them. Harry’s family supported them.

It makes no odds to the rest of us. I can’t understand why they don’t get sympathy for escaping the toxicity. I wish them well. And as I said upthread, they’re happy in California and they don’t get constantly criticised there - quite the opposite.

I think they should both be really proud of themselves.
to come back.to face all this again.
plus grief.trauma.mental and physical strains.
people judging there every move.
people already with an agenda so making everything they do “fit” it.
it was always made very clear by everyone how much Harry still got on with gran.the phone calls etc.
and Charles was clearly saying volumes in his speech and overturning the uniforms.
they have been treated vile by everyone that should have supported them though.
they have both faced trauma.
they have both faced mental illness that has pushed them over the edge.and they have stood together through it all.hats off to them.
I really hope they can go home and be happy.they deserve that peace.

I assumed maybe it rekindled memories of Diana's funeral. Regardless of his life now, of course he will still love his family and roots. It's probably a conflicted feeling as many things in life are, but I think he is probably not regretful of his decision. At least I hope not.

Absolutely this...the poor sod can't do right for wrong..there are protocols and no one can over ride them for their own benefit.

Little said, nothing to add to the bilge-fest that's her next book. I can perfectly understand no-one speaking to her.

As much as their detractors hope that Harry and Meghan are miserable.
I think that Harry and Meghan are bloody relieved that they don’t live here and probably feel sympathy for other members of the Royal family who are ‘trapped’ in the royal bubble
Harry and Meghan will be absolutely fine.

This

I think they should do what they like, talk to who they like, it’s up to them. They’ll have to deal with any consequences of that, I’m not sure why anyone cares that much. Read, listen and watch it or don’t. The only place I really hear so much about about Harry and Meghan and the other royals is on here.

I’m no fan of Harry’s - but the man has has to attend his grandmother’s funeral in the most public forum possible. And I’m sure he was genuinely very fond of the Queen; his mother died in tragic circumstances (and his maternal grandmother was long dead). I can’t believe that anyone would feel happy in those circumstances.

But that’s the point. He did not have the right to wear it…

I think this is exactly what will happen. He will print a book that will aim to destroy Charles and william.

Everyone knows Charles was a poor father so Harry revealing more around this won’t make any difference to Charles popularity. He’s not going to be popular no matter what happens

Williams reputation might be damaged by Harry’s revelations but Harry will be damaged more by trying to inflict pain on his brother and destroy him publicly.

Harrys revelations would have to be earth shattering to do more damage to the monarchy than the damage releasing the book will do to himself. He just doesn’t seem to get this

But from Harrys point of view, some family were racist and didn’t help and the press we’re making life unbearable. We weren’t there and who cares that much anyway. I don’t take as much interest in my own extended family as some mumsnetters do in the royals. The level of interest and taking sides with posters talking like they know any of these people is bizarre.

I dont wish anything bad on them at all but what we have is 2 people with hefty childhood wounds playing them out in public to their own detriment.
Her unmet needs, him with the desperate need to help her he couldnt help his mother
Its codependent, they cant stop it.
Its a run away train

Not surprised he looked unhappy given the sad circumstances. Don't think much can be inferred from that.

Not surprised if the Royal family don't feel comfortable chatting with H&M given they have repeatedly sold their interpretations of private interactions, and recently implied they f carry on doing so.

I was eye-roll about the uniform thing at first, just let him wear it! But turns out

God if I had a camera trained on me 24/7 I’d look very unhappy indeed.
When he talks about his new life he seems happy, and says he is (and it is objectively a lovely life away from a toxic family) so on balance I’d say he probably is as happy as he says he is.

You speak for everyone? Do grow up.what is it about the people that seem to be consumed with hate?

A gorgeous wife, two kids, millions in the bank.

The California lifestyle.

Get real.