Page 6 | Harry - regretful?

Brasschamberstick · 2022-09-20T09:40:39+00:00

Do we think after seeing the magnificence of yesterday that he is regretting giving it all up? He looks so angry and unhappy all the time now?

BarrelOfOtters · 20/09/2022 12:46

I really do wonder what is going on In people’s lives who are so nasty about someone they have never, and are unlikely ever, to meet.

Tinkity · 20/09/2022 12:46

blockpavingismynightmare · 20/09/2022 12:15

Royal protocol aside. As far as I can see after having physically served for this country and I quote..

"Throughout his military career, Prince Harry served in two operational deployments to Afghanistan. The first one lasted ten weeks in the Helmand Province as a Forward Air Controller from 2007-2008. The duke's second deployment was for 20 weeks from 2012 to 2013 as an Apache Pilot. At this point, the prince had reached the rank of captain and was placed in the 662 Squadron, 3 Regiment in the 16 Air Assault Brigade."

.. he has every right to wear a uniform. More right than someone who rode about in a helicopter for a while.......... as an example

No he does not have “every right to wear a uniform” as has been explained here countless times because it is not about royal protocol, it’s about MILITARY protocol. The MILITARY have their own rules & regulations about who can wear a uniform which applies to ALL ex servicemen, Harry included.

The others are entitled to wear honorary uniform because they are working royals but Harry opted out of this so he doesn’t get this benefit. Harry is therefore subject to MILITARY protocol only & is being treated like any other ex servicemen would be, no better or no worse. Other servicemen with Harry’s exact service record would not be allowed to wear uniform either.

If Harry doesn’t want to be a working royal that’s fine but then he can’t expect the royal privileges which in this case, is wearing a uniform.

I’m not sure why you’re finding this so hard to grasp.

roundtable · 20/09/2022 12:46

Man at funeral looks unhappy shocker...

FFS - there are some true fantasists on this thread. How would you know how he is feeling? You're just making shit up.

CatsandFish · 20/09/2022 12:48

Tinkity · 20/09/2022 12:46

No he does not have “every right to wear a uniform” as has been explained here countless times because it is not about royal protocol, it’s about MILITARY protocol. The MILITARY have their own rules & regulations about who can wear a uniform which applies to ALL ex servicemen, Harry included.

The others are entitled to wear honorary uniform because they are working royals but Harry opted out of this so he doesn’t get this benefit. Harry is therefore subject to MILITARY protocol only & is being treated like any other ex servicemen would be, no better or no worse. Other servicemen with Harry’s exact service record would not be allowed to wear uniform either.

If Harry doesn’t want to be a working royal that’s fine but then he can’t expect the royal privileges which in this case, is wearing a uniform.

I’m not sure why you’re finding this so hard to grasp.

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The King is the head of the military and therefore can make the rules re protocol especially for royals.

Tilda77 · 20/09/2022 12:50

I feel sorry for Harry and Meghan. People fall out with their family members all the time and the royal family are no different. I don't expect many would feel comfortable attending their grandmother's funeral if they'd fallen out with their family. Add on top of that the whole world is watching and passing comment on their every move. He probably has a few more chapters that he could add on to his book after past 2 weeks. I don't think they looked comfortable at all but they were doing it to lay their respects to the Queen. They didn't look like they were made to feel very welcome. I can't warm to The Princess of Wales. She has grown in to her role and does it well but to me she seems like she has another side to her that we are not aware of.

SleeplessInEngland · 20/09/2022 12:51

HappyHamsters · 20/09/2022 12:14

Thats fine as long as you dont cash in on the name or accept any inheritance

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Why not? He did his time in prison, he can cash in all he likes as far as I'm concerned.

thecatsthecats · 20/09/2022 12:51

It did strike me that on his gran's funeral, he looked similar to how he looks a lot these days.

I think he did the right thing the wrong way. He shouldn't have rushed Meghan into being a working royal (however willing she was), he shouldn't have rushed into dramatic statements about leaving (whatever the Sun were threatening).

He'd be able to enjoy the benefits of his leaving if he forgot what wrongs he thought had been done him, and focused on how they make decisions.

Nesbo · 20/09/2022 12:51

Sisisisi · 20/09/2022 12:32

I think unwittingly he is desperately trying to heal his Mothers wounds and MM is codependent in this.
Wife who was suicidal during pregnancy, misunderstood and rejected by the RF, victim role,denied security, happiness based around DC being brought up differently, stories about the RF being sold.
Ive never really commented on this or had much interest in them but it struck me the other day that this whats being played out.
He looks utterly miserable.
I hate to say it but look at the ending .
I think this will end in divorce or death.

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Don’t all marriages end in divorce or death? What are the alternatives? 🤔

Bacibaci · 20/09/2022 12:52

The King is the head of the military and therefore can make the rules re protocol especially for royals.

The Royal Family operates on not exercising any power (at least publicly) and to do things according to protocol. I think the armed forces and general public opinion would be mainly unfavourable if he started to change the rules to suit his family.

LandofZog · 20/09/2022 12:52

FrownedUpon · 20/09/2022 11:21

Well he’s not the brightest is he? He probably can’t see his own role in all this. Good riddance to him. No one wants him here.

Love comments like these.

"They" seem to forget Harry was ALWAYS the more popular Prince, always was, always will. When he went off script the press had a fit, but he's been doing it all his life, that's why he was so popular in the first place, a Royal who actually served his country under real gunfire, the boozy parties dressed as with Nazi armband, the naked pool parties in Miami.

Harry will always be his own man, which is incompatible with Royal duty, but he'll always have lots and lots of fans here.

SilverLiningPlaybook · 20/09/2022 12:54

Are you suggesting naked pool parties and Nazi armbands are something to admire?

ZenNudist · 20/09/2022 12:54

His gran died. No wonder he looks sad. I bet he will be glad to get back to his california mansion. He's not that deep and probably isn't too fussed if his wife takes centre stage from now on. I think she's bound to be awful to live with. So fake. So agenda driven. Eventually she will have got everything worth having out of harry and then there will be the stories about their big break up to cash in on.

She's set for life but he's going to make a fool of himself and worse end up with dc who are US basedand he will either have to stay in the USA or move away from them back to Britain.

InstantMagic · 20/09/2022 12:54

roundtable · 20/09/2022 12:46

Man at funeral looks unhappy shocker...

FFS - there are some true fantasists on this thread. How would you know how he is feeling? You're just making shit up.

Yep!

tuesdayblues1 · 20/09/2022 12:58

maranella · 20/09/2022 11:18

It was his grandmother's funeral - of course he's going to look unhappy.

He wanted to leave for years, Meghan gave him an out.

I don't think he regrets leaving, but this has undoubtedly been a very difficult week and probably really awkward for H&M after their many attacks on the family over the past two years.

I don't see why they can't live the life they want, where they want, without this public unpleasantness and I hope that they will agree in future to stop the attacks and just call a truce. They should be happy - they've got what looks like a lovely life away from all the royal scrutiny and nonsense. If anything good can come from the Queen's death it would be a rapprochement between H&M and the rest of the family and an agreement to discuss and sort out their differences in private.

could not agree more

If anything poor Meghan was used as an escape route.

I don't think he regrets anything and absolutely doesn't want to return in the capacity that he was before.

PinkTonic · 20/09/2022 12:58

blockpavingismynightmare · 20/09/2022 12:01

How petty of Charles not to allow him to wear a uniform he has every right to wear and not being allowed to salute at the Cenotaph when others who were wearing token uniforms did !
Even when he was allowed to wear the uniform (at Westminster Hall) the ER was removed from the epaulettes. How petty and tacky and reaffirming his position for all to see.
This alone would be more than enough surely?

He doesn’t have every right to wear a uniform, this has been explained multiple times. His right to wear uniform ended when he resigned from the armed forces, same as all ex servicemen, and since he holds no ceremonial ranks either he literally has no right or reason at all to wear a uniform. The ER on the epaulettes was not removed through pettiness either, it is worn by those in personal service of the sovereign. He didn’t wear them at his wedding either. It’s either ignorance or petty shit stirring that perpetuates this bollocks.

Purplefoxes · 20/09/2022 13:00

LadyHarmby · 20/09/2022 10:44

I think coming back was probably a good reminder of why they left. A lot of irritating and unwanted opinions about hand-holding or wearing a uniform.

This! On the small clip I saw of him on the news which was the only bit of the funeral I watched, William and Charles were allowed to salute the various military on route whereas it was clear he had been told not too despite having served himself in Afghanistan. Just uncomfortable. And he was the youngest when his mother died and was forced to walk behind his mum's coffin that day in front of everyone, I don't know who would do that to a kid who has just lost their mum but it's cruel and had probably done him lasting psychological damage at that age. I bet the funeral has brought back some kind of PTSD. The last thing he wants is to be paraded through the streets again after having just managed to extricate himself and his family. I used to think Harry was a bit of a pr*ck due to the partying, drug taking and dubious I'll advised nazi uniform incident. However I think he went off the rails in his youth and probably no real surprise given what happened. I have a lot of respect for him now for deciding to get out of there. And why should we mock them for wanting to tell their story. If the royal family are such an amazing institution we and should all worship them then they really don't have anything to be afraid of that he might say. Or do they? Even Prince Paedophile (Andrew) gets better treatment than Harry. And why all the hate on Meghan for Pete's sake?! He has chosen her and they seem to be in love! Just because she is not some spineless goody two shoes dolly bird blinking prettily in multiple outfits but saying nothing meaningful. Meghan has a voice and damn right she should use it. I hope her and Harry are truely happy together. I also think once he has got the stuff off his chest he needs to tell then he will find his niche. It will be part of the healing process to tell his side of the story.. I think they are being respectful on holding off with some of it but with the queen gone they will unleash the truth now! I think they have some serious dirt on Charles the petulant prince and now king. People ought to know the truth behind those golden gates. Harry and Meghan have chosen to pay their own way and for that I respect them more than any other member of the royal family. Let's hear their story and make your own mind up and then everyone can move on! Oh and if anything were to happen to either Harry, Meghan or their kids before they tell us, I would say Perhaps Mohammed Alfayed was not so crazy after all....

PinkTonic · 20/09/2022 13:01

The King is the head of the military and therefore can make the rules re protocol especially for royals and you think it’s remotely acceptable for the King to make up rules for Harry which don’t apply to other ex servicemen? Wow.

Tinkity · 20/09/2022 13:02

CatsandFish · 20/09/2022 12:48

The King is the head of the military and therefore can make the rules re protocol especially for royals.

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Yes I know that but Harry opted out of being a working royal didn’t he? If he doesn’t want to be a working royal then why should he get any special royal dispensations? If he wants to be a regular Joe Bloggs then he follows the same rules as all other ex servicemen.

Also, the poster I was replying to said “royal protocol aside” as if royal protocol was the reason he was not to wearing a uniform, I was pointing out it was actually military protocol.

Sparklythings1 · 20/09/2022 13:03

I think they gained a lot of support from the public by being back temporarily. I don’t think I saw anyone at all say anything to Meghan the whole time I watched the funeral and the other events leading up to it. I felt bad for her yesterday that she kind of had to stand with them but it didn’t look as if anyone said a word to her 😕 The Royal family’s problem now is going to be that it has majorly downsized. They’ve lost the queen and prince Phillip and Harry and Meghan have left, that’s four of the major members gone! I think they should allow Harry to take on some duties like he wanted to when he first left

PurpleWisteria · 20/09/2022 13:03

I expect he'll be back after the divorce.

CatsandFish · 20/09/2022 13:06

Purplefoxes · 20/09/2022 13:00

This! On the small clip I saw of him on the news which was the only bit of the funeral I watched, William and Charles were allowed to salute the various military on route whereas it was clear he had been told not too despite having served himself in Afghanistan. Just uncomfortable. And he was the youngest when his mother died and was forced to walk behind his mum's coffin that day in front of everyone, I don't know who would do that to a kid who has just lost their mum but it's cruel and had probably done him lasting psychological damage at that age. I bet the funeral has brought back some kind of PTSD. The last thing he wants is to be paraded through the streets again after having just managed to extricate himself and his family. I used to think Harry was a bit of a pr*ck due to the partying, drug taking and dubious I'll advised nazi uniform incident. However I think he went off the rails in his youth and probably no real surprise given what happened. I have a lot of respect for him now for deciding to get out of there. And why should we mock them for wanting to tell their story. If the royal family are such an amazing institution we and should all worship them then they really don't have anything to be afraid of that he might say. Or do they? Even Prince Paedophile (Andrew) gets better treatment than Harry. And why all the hate on Meghan for Pete's sake?! He has chosen her and they seem to be in love! Just because she is not some spineless goody two shoes dolly bird blinking prettily in multiple outfits but saying nothing meaningful. Meghan has a voice and damn right she should use it. I hope her and Harry are truely happy together. I also think once he has got the stuff off his chest he needs to tell then he will find his niche. It will be part of the healing process to tell his side of the story.. I think they are being respectful on holding off with some of it but with the queen gone they will unleash the truth now! I think they have some serious dirt on Charles the petulant prince and now king. People ought to know the truth behind those golden gates. Harry and Meghan have chosen to pay their own way and for that I respect them more than any other member of the royal family. Let's hear their story and make your own mind up and then everyone can move on! Oh and if anything were to happen to either Harry, Meghan or their kids before they tell us, I would say Perhaps Mohammed Alfayed was not so crazy after all....

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Damn fucking straight to all of this.

GoingOnce · 20/09/2022 13:06

He looked furious all day. Maybe that was his grief showing. I don’t know. The others looked terribly sad. He looked like if you knocked his pint he’d put you through a window.

Snoken · 20/09/2022 13:06

Purplefoxes · 20/09/2022 13:00

This! On the small clip I saw of him on the news which was the only bit of the funeral I watched, William and Charles were allowed to salute the various military on route whereas it was clear he had been told not too despite having served himself in Afghanistan. Just uncomfortable. And he was the youngest when his mother died and was forced to walk behind his mum's coffin that day in front of everyone, I don't know who would do that to a kid who has just lost their mum but it's cruel and had probably done him lasting psychological damage at that age. I bet the funeral has brought back some kind of PTSD. The last thing he wants is to be paraded through the streets again after having just managed to extricate himself and his family. I used to think Harry was a bit of a pr*ck due to the partying, drug taking and dubious I'll advised nazi uniform incident. However I think he went off the rails in his youth and probably no real surprise given what happened. I have a lot of respect for him now for deciding to get out of there. And why should we mock them for wanting to tell their story. If the royal family are such an amazing institution we and should all worship them then they really don't have anything to be afraid of that he might say. Or do they? Even Prince Paedophile (Andrew) gets better treatment than Harry. And why all the hate on Meghan for Pete's sake?! He has chosen her and they seem to be in love! Just because she is not some spineless goody two shoes dolly bird blinking prettily in multiple outfits but saying nothing meaningful. Meghan has a voice and damn right she should use it. I hope her and Harry are truely happy together. I also think once he has got the stuff off his chest he needs to tell then he will find his niche. It will be part of the healing process to tell his side of the story.. I think they are being respectful on holding off with some of it but with the queen gone they will unleash the truth now! I think they have some serious dirt on Charles the petulant prince and now king. People ought to know the truth behind those golden gates. Harry and Meghan have chosen to pay their own way and for that I respect them more than any other member of the royal family. Let's hear their story and make your own mind up and then everyone can move on! Oh and if anything were to happen to either Harry, Meghan or their kids before they tell us, I would say Perhaps Mohammed Alfayed was not so crazy after all....

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This is so spot on! I hate seeing all the blind royalists on here bashing Harry and Meghan when none of them has walked in their shoes. Harry really needed someone like Meghan who is not intimidated by the royal family, and who isn't afraid to speak up.

CatsandFish · 20/09/2022 13:07

PinkTonic · 20/09/2022 13:01

The King is the head of the military and therefore can make the rules re protocol especially for royals and you think it’s remotely acceptable for the King to make up rules for Harry which don’t apply to other ex servicemen? Wow.

Why not? He is the HEAD of the Military. We think it's remotely acceptable to have a royal family reign over us, so what's the difference.

dworky · 20/09/2022 13:07

Give it a rest, fgs.