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What is your employer doing about people who don't work Mondays?

104 replies

MadeWithCare · 12/09/2022 18:52

I work in the public sector, Monday will be a day's paid leave.

So are people who don't work Mondays entitled to a different day? Would anyone have the nerve to ask?

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FunsizedandFabulous · 12/09/2022 21:53

I'll get it in lieu. I'm working on Monday!

MaxmaraDress · 12/09/2022 21:53

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 12/09/2022 19:23

Everyone is entitled to bank holidays so if Monday is not a working day, you can take the day elsewhere.

Everyone isnt entitled to additional bank holidays
It depends on what your contract says- lots say 8 bank holidays and so you dont get additional ones
Self employed people such as amazon drivers, contractors etc dont get a bank holiday

It is a very employed middle class view that everyone gets bank holidays.

Foxymoxy68 · 12/09/2022 21:56

Apparently it was a local authority decision!

duckme · 12/09/2022 22:18

KittyMcKitty · 12/09/2022 18:55

It’s a Bank Holiday due to the funeral - it’s that day so there’s nothing to ask.

I work in a school and for those who work part time if a bank holiday falls on someone’s non working day they don’t get an additional day.

Depending on the contract, they could do.
We ended our summer term early this year, to account for the extra bank holiday for the jubilee. This meant the school was closed on the Friday and staff who are not normally contracted to work on Fridays we're given (I think) 6 hours back in lieu.

duckme · 12/09/2022 22:20

CurrentHun · 12/09/2022 19:14

i hate the way they never include part time staff in this stuff and make us beg for info. And what about women on Mat leave?

I agree! I had to go to our HR dept and ask about the jubilee bank holiday, after asking the SBM and the head teacher. I'm not asking for more than I genuinely believe I am entitled to, but end up feeling like I'm being greedy!

Meredusoleil · 12/09/2022 22:23

duckme · 12/09/2022 22:20

I agree! I had to go to our HR dept and ask about the jubilee bank holiday, after asking the SBM and the head teacher. I'm not asking for more than I genuinely believe I am entitled to, but end up feeling like I'm being greedy!

Exactly the same with me! Now thinking I should have asked to be paid for the day in lieu that I never got to take off 🤔

tunnocksreturns2019 · 12/09/2022 22:25

brookstar · 12/09/2022 21:39

It's being treated like any other bank holiday so staff that don't usually work Mondays will get additional hours added on to their annual leave entitlement.
I work at a university.

Yes same here

Disneyblueeyes · 12/09/2022 22:37

I'm a teacher and I don't work Mondays. To be honest I've always just thought 'bad luck'. If I could get it back in lieu though, and had to ask about it, I'd feel so awkward and greedy.

Meredusoleil · 12/09/2022 22:39

Disneyblueeyes · 12/09/2022 22:37

I'm a teacher and I don't work Mondays. To be honest I've always just thought 'bad luck'. If I could get it back in lieu though, and had to ask about it, I'd feel so awkward and greedy.

Why? What's the worst that can happen? They say no and you've lost nothing.

TheLoupGarou · 12/09/2022 22:56

NHS - we've been told if we are working we will get another stat day in lieu, normal bank hol procedure.

Purplecatshopaholic · 12/09/2022 23:01

We are giving every one an additional day

mindutopia · 12/09/2022 23:06

I work part time as an employee but not on Mondays. I don’t get the bank holiday ‘off’ as already off. Dh and I are both self employed (him all the time, me on the days of the week when not working in my other job). We both technically need to work on Monday regardless of bank holidays and with 2 dc home from school. 😩

Drywhitefruitycidergin · 12/09/2022 23:09

Annual leave given back if already booked off, part time workers who don't work Monday can take it another time

tigger1001 · 13/09/2022 07:52

"Everyone isnt entitled to additional bank holidays
It depends on what your contract says- lots say 8 bank holidays and so you dont get additional ones
Self employed people such as amazon drivers, contractors etc dont get a bank holiday

It is a very employed middle class view that everyone gets bank holidays."

I agree. All my contracts of employment since I started working stipulated the number of bank holidays that were included.

Currently I think it's 9 that's included. But we don't close apart from Christmas so it's all just included in the annual holiday allowance.

My work hasn't yet said anything about Monday, but I would be very surprised if we are closed. I would pretty much imagine anyone wanting it off will need to take a days holiday, pretty much what happens for any other bank holiday someone wants off.

We also may get the option to work from home - but any time off watching the funeral will be made up.

TimeToGoUpAGear · 13/09/2022 08:36

My company have said you can take it off IF you wish to mourn the queen, let your line manager know. But if you don't take it, you can't take the extra day another time as it's specifically for mourning.

The lack of clarity is ridiculous as some self righteous types have already said they'll work and anyone saying they want it off looks a bit bad now!

I've said nothing either way...yet!

MafaldaHopkirk · 13/09/2022 09:34

The principle (law) is that you cannot treat part-time workers less favourably than full-time workers.
So if your employer is giving full-time workers an EXTRA day off on Monday (i.e. not making them take it out of existing leave), then the must give part-time workers additional time off too, pro-rata, whether or not they work on Mondays (if PT workers don't work on Mondays, that additional time off must be added to their annual leave).

CurrentHun · 13/09/2022 12:30

Our SLT are giving everyone a paid day’s leave on the funeral day, to everyone who would be working on the funeral day, which is great. And nothing if you are booked on annual leave, are on Mat leave, or you’re part time and the funeral day is on your non-working day. We’ve noticed that they have not referred to it anywhere as a ‘bank holiday’, even though it’s a bank holiday by Royal decree. Public sector. Lots of part time women workers.
Pretty used to arbitrary petty stuff from HR, but given that schools seem to be closing it’s hardly going to be a day of reflection and mourning for parents. Hasn’t gone down that well.

CurrentHun · 13/09/2022 12:55

Mafalda is there any link that puts it as pithily as you have, giving an official expression of the law here?

Figgygal · 13/09/2022 12:59

It never should have been called a bank holiday its for a very specific purpose if you not working that day you can mark the day already it shouldn't be companies give time to take at other times completely unrelated to its purpose

Imo obviously

Figgygal · 13/09/2022 13:01

CurrentHun · 13/09/2022 12:30

Our SLT are giving everyone a paid day’s leave on the funeral day, to everyone who would be working on the funeral day, which is great. And nothing if you are booked on annual leave, are on Mat leave, or you’re part time and the funeral day is on your non-working day. We’ve noticed that they have not referred to it anywhere as a ‘bank holiday’, even though it’s a bank holiday by Royal decree. Public sector. Lots of part time women workers.
Pretty used to arbitrary petty stuff from HR, but given that schools seem to be closing it’s hardly going to be a day of reflection and mourning for parents. Hasn’t gone down that well.

Nice bit of HR bashing there
HR don't make decisions they advise and leadership should make the decisions

CointreauVersial · 13/09/2022 13:05

At this company, if Monday is a non-working day for you, then tough titty, you don't benefit from the Bank Holiday.

I don't work Fridays, but don't get a day in lieu to make up for Good Friday, and some years I miss out on some of the Christmas Bank Holidays too (2022 is good, though).

MinnieMountain · 13/09/2022 13:11

I asked and was told I don’t get anything off in lieu. Annoying.

MafaldaHopkirk · 13/09/2022 13:12

CurrentHun · 13/09/2022 12:55

Mafalda is there any link that puts it as pithily as you have, giving an official expression of the law here?

Here is the ACAS advice

www.acas.org.uk/part-time-workers

Stag82 · 13/09/2022 13:13

I would imagine it depends on what your contract states. Mine is x holiday days + bank holidays. Some contracts are 28 including bank holidays so you Amy not get them.

We have been given the day off on the Monday. I am on annual leave prior to Mat leave so wud imagine I will ‘get the day back’

MafaldaHopkirk · 13/09/2022 13:17

CointreauVersial · 13/09/2022 13:05

At this company, if Monday is a non-working day for you, then tough titty, you don't benefit from the Bank Holiday.

I don't work Fridays, but don't get a day in lieu to make up for Good Friday, and some years I miss out on some of the Christmas Bank Holidays too (2022 is good, though).

This does not sound right from your company.
A simple way to check is add FT holiday and BH (i.e. all the days FT people are off work), then multiply by the PT ratio you do (e.g. 0.6, 0.8 etc). That should give you all the days off you are entitled to.
If any BH fall on your working days, then they need to be taken out of your total.

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