I knew what and when in 55 guesses, but the target words just weren't coming to mind, so I titted round for ages, hoping that as I got more of the text something would jog my memory.
I didn't, so I gave in and googled and had the "of course! How on earth did that slip my mind" moment
I found #pedantle #139 in 230 guesses!
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