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My 19 year old son is physically and emotionally abusive to me

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anguishedmum · 06/08/2022 21:13

Hello, newbie here and in dire need for advice please. I have two sons, 25 and 19 and have been trying to cope with an alcoholic husband for years, something which is obviously negatively affecting us all. My 19 year old is a really sharp and kind kid, on his first year at law school. He lives at home, is fully dependent on us and for the most part, he and I have a very good relationship, talk a lot about everything, help each other emotionally and get on quite well, most of the time. However, he has always been pretty assertive, does not easily take no for an answer, always wants to have the last word and has been physically and emotionally abusive to me on two major occasions in the last 3 years. This usually follows a conversation that gets heated up for no real reason and when this happens, I usually say or show him that I do not want to keep talking and/or arguing on this tone, and will do so later when things calm down. On both occasions he refuses to accept or respect this. The first time, I tried to get some time-out and retreated to my bedroom. He followed me up there, calling me names and relentlessly pursued me around the house, slamming doors and breaking things and physically shoving me and pushing me around. Today, the same thing happened, I said I did not wish to continue talking until he had calmed down and used a less aggressive tone of voice and when he did not respect that, I simply closed off my ears with my hands and concentrated on my laptop, choosing to ignore him. He responded by coming over to where I was sitting, towering over me, grabbing by wrists and physically pulling them away from my ears, pinning me down and calling me names. I did not speak to him at all, just tried to defend myself and free myself from his grasp and accidentally knocking his phone down. He continued to grab and hurt me physically, shutting down and threatening to break my laptop, calling me names and laughing in my face. This behavior is very very hurtful for me and I don’t know how to cope with it. I realize that his father addiction to alcohol may be at the root of some of this aggressive behavior, but I don’t think it justifies the whole of it. Last time this happened, I left the house for 5 days. This time, I decided to face him with consequences, so I withdrew his monthly allowance from his bank account. I am planning to tell him that I am perfectly happy to pay for his lifestyle and studies, as long as we are in a mutually loving and respectful relationship, but not otherwise. I do not know what else to do and how to cope with this very hurtful situation and any advice would be more than welcome.

OP posts:
DelphiniumBlue · 06/08/2022 21:15

He’s at law school, he’ll soon find out that his ca

ItsSnowJokes · 06/08/2022 21:16

Kick him out. He's an adult. No way would I stand by being assaulted. While you are doing it kick your alcoholic husband out as well.

Cas112 · 06/08/2022 21:18

You need to kick him out and stop supporting him at all

His behaviour is in no way acceptable

itsjustnotok · 06/08/2022 21:22

He’s studying law and thinks it’s ok to abuse his mum? Kick him out. Sorry but he needs to learn the hard way.

DelphiniumBlue · 06/08/2022 21:24

Tell him if it happens again you’ll call the police and that’ll be the end of his legal career.
But I don’t think you should be taking money out of his account. It’s one thing to stop paying him, but taking money from his account is theft! It sends completely the wrong message.
Is his father violent to you? And how has he and your older son reacted.?
in the meantime tell him he’d better start looking for alternative accommodation, because he’s now assaulted you twice in your own home. He’s not attacking g the bigger stronger men, is he? He’s attacking you because he thinks he can get away with it.
im very sorry you’re going through this, I can think of nothing worse than being attacked by your own son. I hate to think what you must all have been through to get to this point. You must be so sad x

PersonaNonGarter · 06/08/2022 21:24

He needs to leave. As does your DH.

Eupraxia · 06/08/2022 21:24

You put your hands over your ears?

Passive-aggressive and childish response at the best if times, moreover as a (wholly inappropriate) attempt to diffuse a situation.

You handles it poorly, so did he.

You both could do with improving positive communication as you move to an adult relationship.

HappyHamsters · 06/08/2022 21:25

You call the police and report him for assault. I dont think withdrawing his allowance will have much effect on his abusive behaviour. Tell him to get a job to support his own lifestyle and studies.

TooHotToTangoToo · 06/08/2022 21:31

Why are you paying him an allowance? He's 19 and capable of getting a job. Stop paying it to him.

Tell him if he physically abuses you again in any way shape or form you'll call the police and that will be the end of his legal career.

Time to start treating him as an adult, would you expect this behaviour from another adult? One that lives in your house.

ijustcouldntthinkofausername · 06/08/2022 21:40

Omg your son sounds like an absolute spoiled little twat and I'm sorry but he needs a lamping to knock him down a peg or 2.
Does your other son know about how he's treating you!?
I'm angry just reading this! How dare he treat his mother like this!!!!
Does he have a partner at all?

PasswordProtection · 06/08/2022 21:43

DelphiniumBlue · 06/08/2022 21:15

He’s at law school, he’ll soon find out that his ca

So not in the uk!
where do you live ?

catfunk · 06/08/2022 21:47

You should have called the police the first time tbh.

Dotcheck · 06/08/2022 21:50

Doesn’t he get student loans? Time for him to move into student accommodation

Velvian · 06/08/2022 21:52

It's not too late to report this to the police, op. At this stage, I would set up your own bank account, get your income paid into it and using any savings you can access, put a deposit on a rental property just for yourself. Leave them to it.

BMW6 · 06/08/2022 21:53

Don't be a victim. Tell him and your DH to fuck off.

Queenie6655 · 06/08/2022 21:57

Eupraxia · 06/08/2022 21:24

You put your hands over your ears?

Passive-aggressive and childish response at the best if times, moreover as a (wholly inappropriate) attempt to diffuse a situation.

You handles it poorly, so did he.

You both could do with improving positive communication as you move to an adult relationship.

Ffs

Awful to say that

Scianel · 06/08/2022 22:03

@Eupraxia your post is disgusting.

IDrinkCoffee · 06/08/2022 22:04

If he does this to you, you can be absolutely sure he'll one day do this to a partner too.

I fear you've been desensitised into believing this is a mutually respectful relationship but the reality is, about once a year, he physically assaults you. This makes him a dangerously out of control 19 year old. There is no negotiation on this. He needs to leave.

Mannymoomin · 06/08/2022 22:32

What an awful situation to be in OP.

Personally I disagree with everyone saying to kick him out, he needs help, and quickly or it will only get worse, and it won’t stop at you, he’ll do it to future partners/children.
If you want to help him, and yourself, seek help, from anyone, even if it’s from the police, they can help you both without damaging his career prospects, but he will almost certainly damage any career he wants in law by continuing on this path.
The police can direct him to external pathways without the need to go down the prosecution route.
Call the Samaritans or your local crisis team.
Honestly you need to get him support, without it, you can be confident that he’ll continue with his behaviour and somewhere along the line someone will end up getting seriously hurt.

changedmyname2022 · 06/08/2022 22:33

Eupraxia · 06/08/2022 21:24

You put your hands over your ears?

Passive-aggressive and childish response at the best if times, moreover as a (wholly inappropriate) attempt to diffuse a situation.

You handles it poorly, so did he.

You both could do with improving positive communication as you move to an adult relationship.

@Eupraxia seriously? The op was trying to ignore in the hope it would diffuse the situation and yet you're blaming her? Op please ignore this ridiculous reply.

Op please please get some help, he is an awful bully and it cannot continue. What does his older brother say? Does he know? Does his father know?

You are in an abusive relationship. Please contact Women's Aid or Refuge for help and advice. You deserve better than an alcoholic husband and an abusive son.

IsThePopeCatholic · 06/08/2022 22:36

does he smoke weed? It sounds like paranoia.

LittleOwl153 · 06/08/2022 22:40

Your need to say where your husband is in al, lf this. Does he support you or does he support your son I these attacks?
Does your husband treat you similarly - is that where your son is learning it from?
Personally I wouldn't live with anyone who treated me like this so I would be telling your son that his time under your roof has finished and he needs to find new accommodation for the September term. And if that means he needs a job then so be it. You need your husband behind you with this though - otherwise I'd be looking at divorce instead.

anguishedmum · 06/08/2022 22:45

Thanks for your answers, really thanks. In a small corner of my mind I did not want to accept that this is abusive behavior, although in my heart, I know it is. LittleOwl, my husband supports nobody really. He does try to come between me and my son when he assaults me, but he does not take a clear stance. He more or less keeps equal distance from both

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Tasmanium · 06/08/2022 23:17

@anguishedmum so so sorry you are dealing with this, it must be heart breaking. Did he see this modelled to some degree by the father or someone else growing up?

Read “Why does he do that?” By Lundy Bancroft if you haven’t already, it may help make sense of the dynamics behind this behaviour.

This is a terrible thing you shouldn’t have to put up with, it will also massively harm his life (not to say that’s the main concern but I’m guessing as a mother that’s what is worrying you too). You have to draw the unconditional love line at abuse I’m afraid, it’s just not going to help his life if he thinks he can do this to his own mother and get away with it. The more it’s normalised the harder it will be for both of you in future. I think that means having an honest conversation about safety how you have to prioritise yours and how you can’t enable this behaviour, it probably means him moving out. It may be you have to discuss what he has witnessed too if that’s an issue, and help him make sense of that, and why it was tolerated (if this applies). He’s potentially young enough to get through to, but he may have some hurt from being subject to or witnessing abuse which (wrongly) may lead him to think he’s entitled to punish you for this.

Lubdeness · 06/08/2022 23:28

Lundy's book is available as a pdf online.

ia800108.us.archive.org/30/items/LundyWhyDoesHeDoThat/Lundy_Why-does-he-do-that.pdf

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