Teachers - most disliked profession on mumsnet?

[OhReally18]

In the last few days, I've seen a lot of teacher bashing on mumsnet. Even teachers giving other teachers a hard time. Seems like it could be one of the most disliked professions on mn. Is this a true reflection of how the rest of society feels?

I've been teaching in primary for a good few years and I have never experienced bad feelings towards teaching in real life, just on here and social media occasionally. Maybe the odd envious comment about holidays but that's it.

It's by no means harder than other professions but teachers are portrayed as lazy, moany, hard done by, ungrateful, the list goes on...
Is this fair? Surely it's no different to other professions?

There was a form or a template issued by unions for teachers to fill in saying they wouldn't return following the lockdown

Prove it or it never happened. Go on. It'll be on Google.

To be fair, individual schools were the ones who decided about Zoom/Teams/Loom.

The demand that teachers be prioritized for vaccinations and / or schools be closed to protect them was another egregious example of them wanting special treatment where it wasn’t needed or deserved.

The BBC’s More or Less covered this; the data showed that teachers were not at elevated risk. Children were far less likely than others to catch Covid or to pass it on, and so putting teachers ahead of others would actually kill more vulnerable people.

This is what some teachers were calling for, to be vaccinated ahead of people in higher risk categories, or to be allowed not to work.

Now, I understand that it will be a very rare teacher indeed with any decent understanding of statistics, but surely they at least should have the self-awareness to know that it’s not something they understand, and so not to make demands based on it.

@echt

Nope

I get why you want to deny it happened but the damage is done.

@MsFrenchie

They're still saying it now! On this thread

@echt

Its already been discussed on this thread.

Apparently there were lots of teachers on mumsnet sending them in.

Your denial is bizarre

You know nothing about my motives.

Us for them out in force this morning I see 😀

Here you go; not a form but a template to try to force closures.

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/national-education-union-escalation-app-school-closures_uk_5fa09852c5b63dc9a5bfd837

I have not denied it. You've provided no proof at all.

I think its time to move on. Something like 40% of teachers leave within the first 5 years and lots of extra teachers have retired so a lot of those teaches that followed union advice probably arent even teaching.

50% of the teachers at my school are ect on fixed term contracts.

So a union shows its member how to identify and track health and safety issues.

Quell horreur.

Teachers were not at higher risk from covid than any other member of the general public.
This isn't true. Unless you mean teachers were not at highest risk? As they weren't. But they were at an above average risk. And not hard to see why given so many people worked from home/were furloughed etc! I got horrified looks when I asked some friends if they were back in the office yet "oh no it wouldn't be safe" etc. However I do not generalise from this to make assumptions about all office workers

www.theguardian.com/education/2020/may/14/teachers-can-legally-refuse-to-return-over-risk-to-health-union-warns

This isn't the template I meant but gives you an idea

I distinctly remember lots of threads where teachers were completing a firm to be sent to their head teachers saying they wouldn't return to work following lock down

I havent imagined it or made it up and its very odd you're insisting I have, especially as other people on this thread have already spoken about it

You should go into politics. If you want change then go and be part of it instead of getting angry at your computer. You sound very bitter

@echt you have to realise health and safety, safe guarding etc are of no interest to the posters you are speaking to.

You can't argue with stupid.

@MistressIggi

It is true.

There's lots of articles and studies showing it to be true.

If you can find any showing teachers were at higher risk from covid than the general, working public, I'd love to see them.

Bless. When you can't engage with the arguments, you try the cod psychology.

And this is why teachers get a bad rep on Mumsnet.

calling every non teacher “stupid”

Case AND point. Well done 👏🏻

I know, but I'm trying like mad not to use the "s" word.

@MistressIggi

Safeguarding of children who were fucked over by school closures should have been a primary concern for teaching unions.

It wasn't.

You're right, you can't argue with people who won't acknowledge the actual evidence in favour of denial and obfuscation in protection of their own misguided self protection

And this is why teachers get a bad rep on Mumsnet. calling every non teacher “stupid”

1. The poster did not do this, but nice try and bingo for generalisation in a teacher context. Well done you.
2. I inferred Mistressiggi was referring to an, ahem, entrenched poster.

HTH.

It is annoying when you express a view that maybe the lockdowns weren’t handled brilliantly and immediately you are ‘Us4Them’

The absolute weird obsession some have with that is just - well, weird.

Safeguarding of children who were fucked over by school closures should have been a primary concern for teaching unions. It wasn't

Unions exist to protect the interests of their members, the ones who pay their subs.

@echt.

Did you see the link I posted for you?