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Ukraine Invasion: Part 29

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MagicFox · 18/07/2022 08:11

Welcome all, part 29

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ScrollingLeaves · 14/08/2022 21:47

minsmum · Today 18:55
Wrong link sorry here it is mobile.twitter.com/AricToler/status/1558869697747107840

Re: Wagner Group headquarters whereabouts advertised by their own boast photos, then blown up by Ukraine.

Proverbs 16:18
King James Version

18 Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.

minsmum · 14/08/2022 21:57

What a shame there isn't a like button

Ijsbear · 15/08/2022 00:12

Rumours that conscription has started in St Petersburg.

If this is true it implies that Putin is moving towards a general mobilization, which is something he has really, really tried to avoid. There could be a number of implications, the first of which is that he's going for a high - risk strategy now. He's tried to avoid discontent in Moscow and St Petersburg.

I don't know if there would be a significant number of extra soldiers recruited. from Statistica:

As of January 1, 2021, 109.3 million inhabitants lived in Russian cities, opposed to 36.9 million people living in the countryside

The same problems would remain of equipping them and most of them would need training.

But I may be leaping too far ahead, the rumour needs confirming / denying.

blueshoes · 15/08/2022 01:52

Conscription would be very worrying, if this is really happening.

I wonder how Putin is going to sell it to the Russian middle class city dwellers why a special military operation requires consciption. It is going to be very risky for him what those conscripts report what is happening from the front lines and then don't come back in one piece if at all.

Natsku · 15/08/2022 06:13

Conscription might be the thing that ends this, for Putin. The middle class who so far approve or at least don't actively disapprove of the invasion might very well change their minds when its their sons being sent to die. And masses of young men who don't want to be there getting together and getting angry could trigger riots in training centres. Things might go nicely wrong for Putin if conscription happens.

Ijsbear · 15/08/2022 08:30

Tim White thinks it's part of the covert mobilization, probably aimed at ex-soldiers etc first.

ISW Key Takeaways

Russian and proxy troops in Ukraine are operating in roughly six force groupings.

Russian forces conducted ground attacks north of Kharkiv City, northwest of Slovyansk, east of Siversk, and made unspecified gains around Bakhmut.

Ukrainian forces reportedly struck a Wagner force concentration in Popasna, Luhansk Oblast, inflicting casualties.

Forty-two states called on Russian forces to withdraw from the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant in Enerhodar, just two to four hours before another strike hit Enerhodar.

Ukrainian forces struck the Antonivsky road bridge, likely keeping all three road bridges to and on the right bank of the Dnipro inoperable to heavy equipment.

Russian military recruitment and enlistment centers continue to face challenges in incentivizing Russians to sign military service contracts.

Russian occupation authorities continued rubleization measures and civilian data collection in occupied territories to set conditions for annexation referenda.

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⚡️Ukrainian troops hit major bridge near Kherson again (the Antonovsky). Ukrainian forces also attacked a railway bridge in Kherson and a bridge near the town of Nova Kakhovka in Kherson Oblast, Humeniuk said.

⚡️Ex-mayor charged with collaborating with Russia in Kharkiv Oblast

⚡️Latvia preparing bill to limit use of Russian language.

⚡️Intelligence: Medical workers in occupied Kherson forced to receive salaries in rubles.

⚡️Russian media say Ukrainian military destroyed Wagner Group base in occupied Popasna.
Yuriy Kotenok, a Russian propagandist, wrote on his Telegram that Ukrainian forces used HIMARS missiles to hit the base in Popasna, Luhansk oblast.

⚡️General Staff: Armed Forces repulse Russian attacks in 3 directions.
According to the Ukrainian military, Russian forces had partial success in an offensive in the direction of Bakhmut, Donetsk oblast, while suffering losses and being forced to retreat near Sloviansk, Kramatorsk, and Avdiivka.

Mayor: Ukrainian partisans damage railway bridge near Melitopol.

⚡️Ukrainian fighter pilot Anton Lystopad killed in combat.
Anton Lystopad was killed in combat, according to a Facebook post by his former college in Ivano-Frankivsk. Lystopad was recognized in 2019 as Ukraine's top fighter pilot

▪️The invaders killed a scuba diver, who worked full-time on the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant because he refused to follow their orders. Russian killers beat the man to death, one of the station's engineers told the BBC [There was a similar report a few weeks ago, I'm wondering if it's the same incident repeated now]

💳 Russia orders about 1,000 reconnaissance drones from Iran – journalist
Well-known Middle East analyst Elijah Magnier, citing his sources, reports that Russia has already concluded agreements with Iran on the supply of 1,000 reconnaissance and strike drones to Russia.

Poland is also stopping issuing visas to Russian tourists. [I do wonder if Putin realises what he's done? Or if he still sees this as the West victimizing Russia]

🛬 A new delegation of the US Congress has arrived on Taiwan
A delegation of the American congressmen headed by Ed Markey visited the island during their trip covering the Indo-Pacific region, reports the American Institute in Taiwan.

🛂 Yle: Finland is starting a debate on tourist visas for russian citizens

🫶 37,000 women serve in the Armed Forces of Ukraine. A thousand of them became commanders.

📣 "It seems like the next two weeks will be decisive for Kherson region," says Serhiy Khlan, an MP of Kherson region council
According to Khlan, the Russian invaders are increasing usage of aviation, keep on with illegal searches and detentions in the middle of the night, while also increasing pressure on the locals, including doctors and teachers.

💬 Russian President Vladimir Putin promised North Korean leader Kim Jong-un that the two countries would "jointly expand comprehensive and constructive bilateral relations," Reuters reported

Ukraine Invasion: Part 29
Ukraine Invasion: Part 29
ScrollingLeaves · 15/08/2022 10:49

Natsku · Today 06:13
Conscription might be the thing that ends this, for Putin. The middle class who so far approve or at least don't actively disapprove of the invasion might very well change their minds when its their sons being sent to die. And masses of young men who don't want to be there getting together and getting angry could trigger riots in training centres. Things might go nicely wrong for Putin if conscription happens.

I wonder, what ordinary Russians would think. There can’t be that many who are educated middle class judging from how so many seem to be living in that vast country outside the main centres.

In this description the other day of Ivan Strelkov apparently being detained going into Crimea with a false passport, I was struck by another name for this Russian invasion of Ukraine other than ‘Special Military Operation’:

Russian National Liberation War

Despite the fact that Strelkov did not set any political goals and did not intend to cause confusion in Novorossia. All he wants is to take a personal part, even as an ordinary, in the Russian national liberation war, which he started.

Maybe ordinary people would believe in that as a second Great Patriotic War. On one of those Patrick Lancaster pro-Russian propaganda films about east Ukraine I saw a simple country woman call what is going on now ‘the Great Patriotic War.’

switchoff1 · 15/08/2022 12:27

Daily Mail (I know I know) article which I wish was true but can’t see it reported anywhere else apart from similar news outlets

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11111535/Senior-Kremlin-official-secretly-approaches-West-bring-Ukraine-invasion-end.html

anyone seen this reported with more reliable sources?

SunflowerSmith · 15/08/2022 15:36

It's on the Ukraine Now telegram channel too

Ukraine Invasion: Part 29
MissConductUS · 15/08/2022 15:52

It's a waste of time unless the Russians/Putin are willing to withdraw to the February 23rd borders.

switchoff1 · 15/08/2022 16:48

@MissConductUS oh I get that I know Ukraine don’t want to compromise this or should they have to. Just thought it was a potentially interesting development that they are saying there is unease growing in the Kremlin. Which is why I wondered if it is anywhere else or just some Daily Mail made up fantasy story

MissConductUS · 15/08/2022 16:50

I suspect that there are quite a few Kremlin insiders and military people who would love to be done with the nightmare that Putin has given them. I just doubt that any are willing to risk defenestration if they get caught approaching the west about it without permission.

OwlsDance · 15/08/2022 17:40

I doubt this is true. I mean, what can the West do? It's Russia that needs to fuck off out of Ukraine.

If they truly want the war to end, all they need to do is take out Putin, put anti war person in charge and recall the army. They know this perfectly well. But at the same time, they know that doing the above will cause civil unrest inside Russia. So you're damned if you do, you're damned if you don't.

Unless they know that Russian defeat is around the corner (I mean, it's really just a matter of time) and are trying to be proactive in scoring some brownie points and potentially seeking political asylum.

Ijsbear · 15/08/2022 18:56

been reported variously in the Mirror, Mail and some other rag. I think it's probably wishful thinking.

MagicFox · 16/08/2022 07:11

Good analysis by Dara Massicot that I've c&pd due to pay wall.

Russia’s Repeat Failures
Moscow’s New Strategy in Ukraine Is Just as Bad as the Old One
By Dara Massicot

When Russia invaded Ukraine in February, the Kremlin inadvertently put its military forces in an unsustainable position, ordering them to take on more operations than they could bear. It had nearly all its soldiers surge simultaneously and rapidly into Ukraine to fight along multiple fronts. It did so without taking necessary protective measures, such as clearing routes of explosives. It had its forces advance at an unsustainable pace. As a result, Russian troops were vulnerable to ambushes, counterattacks, and severe logistical problems that cost the military enormous numbers of soldiers and equipment.

That initial error was caused by the Kremlin’s prewar delusions. Moscow was overconfidentt_ in its intelligence, in the ability of its agents to influence events and politics inside Ukraine, and in its own armed forces. It underestimated Ukraine’s capabilities and will to fight. And it failed to account for a massive expansion of Western support to Kyiv.
But although Russia has had six months to learn from these mistakess_, it appears poised to once again commit its depleted forces to an untenable mission: annexing and holding Ukraine’s Donetsk, Kherson, Luhansk, and Zaporizhzhia Provinces, or oblasts. Holding this territory will require substantial amounts of manpower and armored equipment—particularly given that the regions have contested frontlines and that Russian forces in each experience organized partisan attacks. And Moscow has lost its most advanced equipment, for which it does not have equivalent replacements. The Russian armed forces have also suffered tens of thousands of casualties, including well-trained personnel, and its current strategy for replenishment—recruiting new soldiers from a motley mix of communities and armed groups—will not create a combat effective force. There remains, in short, a mismatch between the Kremlin’s goals for Ukraine and the forces it has to deliver them.

The Kremlin may continue with its plans anyway, concluding that by annexing these four regions, it can force a rapid end to this phase of the war, stymie Western support for Ukraine, and buy itself time to repair and regenerate its military. If Moscow cannot marshal enough resources to support this goal, however, an exhausted Russian military will struggle to hold a contested frontline of about 620 miles. Even if the Kremlin pulls all levers available, declaring a general mobilization to call up sufficient armored equipment and trained personnel, that process would still take time. Russian forces, then, are likely to face very significant resource constraints in the next year or two. This may provide Ukrainian forces with an opportunity to push back against Russia’s efforts to hold all four oblasts.
RUNNING ON EMPTY
Russia’s invasionn_ of Ukraine began with high-profile losses. As Russian troops advanced toward Kyiv and Kharkiv, they were vulnerable to intense fires and ambush tactics from a committed and increasingly well-supplied Ukrainian military. After the Russian offensive stalled and suffered heavy casualties, Moscow abandoned its plan to capture these cities. Instead, it concentrated its attacks on the Donbas—made up of Ukraine’s eastern Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts—and southern Ukraine, both places where the Russian military has had more success. Today, Russian forces have conquered the entirety of Luhansk, the vast majority of Kherson, and over half of Donetsk and Zaporizhzhia.
Seizing Kyiv was critical to one of Moscow’s key objectives at the outset of the war: fast regime change. When that failedd_, Russia downsized its plans, and now, the Kremlin’s revised intermediate goal has come into sharper focus. Through a series of policy announcements, leadership statements, and targeted military operations over the last three months, it appears that Russia seeks to illegally annex the provinces it has entirely or mostly occupied, potentially as early as this fall.
Russiaa_ has laid the administrative groundwork for such a move. It has installed Russian citizens or officials to administer occupied Ukrainian territories, appointed instructors to teach a distorted pro-Russian curriculum in schools, changed Ukrainian Internet service providers and telephone area codes to Russian ones, and confiscated Ukrainian passports to force Ukrainian citizens to acquire Russian documents. The recently installed puppet governments of occupied regions have announced so-called election commissions that could hold sham referendums on joining Russia. Moscow has created temporary security services offices in Kherson and Zaporizhzhia, nominally to help administer these southern regions but probably to break up partisan networks that could interfere with the annexation process.
For the Kremlin, annexation would be a means to a bigger end. Should Moscow declare these territories part of Russia, it could then proclaim a cease-fire and paint continuing Ukrainian counteroffensives as attacks on what it defines as Russia. Kremlin officials might also declare that their country’s nuclear guarantees apply to all of what they consider to be the Russian Federation, as Russian President Vladimir Putinn did after annexing Crimeaa in 2014. Such a plan assumes that the threats would deter the United States and Europe from supporting Ukraine, prompting them to curtail or even cut off arms flows to Kyiv over fears of escalation. Over time, the Kremlin hopes, Western interest in and support for Ukraine will fade, allowing Russia to set the terms of the conflict’s settlement.
Ukraine is highly unlikely to accept any annexation or cease-fire. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has declared that “freezing the conflict with the Russian Federation means a pause that gives the Russian Federation a break for rest.” Kyivv_ will almost certainly also continue to ask for Western assistance. Ukrainian and Russian goals through the end of 2022 are therefore on a collision course: one side is working to prevent the conflict from ossifying along a frozen line of contact while the other works to attain precisely that outcome.
MUDDLING THROUGH
The Ukrainian and Russian militaries are entering a critical period in the weeks and months ahead, although for different reasons. In some areas, Ukrainian forces are outgunned, outranged, and in critical need of ammunition and certain weapons—thanks in part to Russia’s efforts to disable Ukraine’s defense industry. But in the near term, Ukraine may have a more sustainable position. The country has sufficient personnel, Western supportt_, and a strong will to fight. Russia, meanwhile, has experienced troop and material losses that will be difficult to overcome. According to Western estimates, Russia has suffered between 45,000 and 75,000 wounded and killed personnel, from junior enlisted soldiers to generals. It has lost more than 5,000 pieces of equipment. Russia’s military has learned and adapted at the operational and tactical levels from its early defeats, shifting to new tactics that favor its superior firepower. But such battlefield adjustments are not enough to overcome the early and severe losses.
These deficits will make it hard for Russia to successfully hold the regions it may try to annex. At a minimum, if the Kremlin annexes them this fall, it will be doing so at a time of great vulnerability. To succeed, Moscow will have to replenish personnel and equipment at scale—tasks that will prove extremely difficult.
Consider, for instance, Russia’s shortage of soldiers. So far, Russia is taking an ad hoc approach to replenishing personnel, drawing from at least nine populations: active-duty troops stationed outside Ukraine, reservists, mercenary groups, Kadyrovtsy (fighters loyal to Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov), military prison battalions, foreign fighters, the National Guard, direct volunteers, and far-right neo-Nazi groups such as Rusichh_. This system is far from ideal. The Russian military and mercenary groups may be touting decent combat pay—over $3,000 a month—but they are offering short-term contracts, dropping recruitment standards, and providing only a few weeks of basic training.
Russiaa_ could drum up more soldiers by reaching into the border troops or further into the National Guard. But the country’s ability to generate personnel will also probably reach its zenith in the coming months unless it declares a general mobilization and drafts men from across the country. Even in a best-case scenario, however, mobilization would take at least several months to a year to confer an operational benefit. Russia’s mobilization base, made of equipment in long-term storage and reservists with military experience, has been largely dormant for over a decade. Expanding the system nationwide, including by calling up military-age males with no experience, would strain it significantly; thousands of officers and noncommissioned officers needed to command mobilized units are currently fighting or have already been killed in Ukraine.
Russia’s equipment problem is just as difficult to solve. According to U.S. officials, the Russian military has committed 80 percent of its active-duty army, airborne, and marine units and their equipment to Ukraine, and it has already withdrawn additional equipment from long-term storage. Although Russia has thousands more armored vehicles and missiles in storage, they are less capable and more unreliable: gear in long-term storage, for example, is mostly old and in various degrees of serviceability, often kept for years in open fields. Russia’s defense industry still has manufacturing capacity, but with its already bottlenecked and inefficient production lines under heavy Western sanctions, Russia will struggle to mass-produce new equipment on short notice. The Kremlin has taken initial steps to shore up this sector so it can better regenerate lost gear and expand its supply of missiles, but it will take many months to several years before these measures begin to show results.
THE BATTLE AHEAD
Moscow’s troubles, however, don’t guarantee Ukraine’s success. Kyiv has also lost many troops and weapons. In the near term, Ukraine, like Russia, will probably struggle to carry out new large-scale offensives or counteroffensives. Both states could be focused on ad hoc efforts to stave off exhaustion. Ukrainee_ will need to fight hard to deny Russia a meaningful hold on the areas it plans to annex or to contest annexation if it occurs. Kyiv will also need continued Western support to implement its qualitative advantages on the battlefield. It will need to use the momentum of its counterattacks to prevent Moscow from integrating occupied oblasts into Russia.
Kyiv has said its counteroffensive in Kherson is a priority, and it is striking Russian bases at greater distances—possibly including a naval aviation base in Crimea. Russian forces in Kherson were the most vulnerable at the start of the summer, but in recent weeks, Russia has redeployed assets there from the Donbas. Ukraine can complicate Russia’s ability to fortify and annex this vital territory by using a method that worked in the opening phases of the war: inflicting battlefield losses so stark that Russia’s military leadership becomes convinced their forces cannot hold the oblast and that their positions are, or will imminently become, unsustainable. To do that, the Ukrainian militaryy_ must maintain a contested frontline, attack Russian command-and-control systems, and steadily thin out Russian forces to the point that they are combat ineffective in a particular area.
Russian military planners closely study whether their forces are combat effective, including by looking at attrition rates (also known as “critical loss” in Russian military science). For Russian ground forces, military planners projected before the war that a unit becomes ineffective when it loses 50 to 60 percent of its original strength. They estimate that a regional command-and-control network is permanently broken when 40 percent of its equipment is destroyed. They believe that an air force squadron can no longer operate when it loses 70 percent of its aircraft. If Ukraine can create a highly contested frontline—just as it did outside Kyiv and Kharkiv—with attacks on command-and-control points, high rates of equipment losses, and large Russian casualties, it may again convince Moscow to withdraw.
But for such a Ukrainian strategy to have the best chance of success, it must be in progress before Russia attempts to annex the territory it holds; that way, Ukrainian attacks can deny Russia a foothold in an area like Kherson. And even if Russia does annex Ukrainian territory and tries to force an operational pause, Kyiv and its Western supporters don’t have to comply. Russia’s overall ambitions for Ukraine, after all, remain intact. Moscow wants to annex large parts of Ukraine, it wants to demilitarize the country so that the government cannot fight against its actions, and it wants a pro-Russian leader in Kyiv. The sad reality is that annexing four regions is unlikely to be the end of Russia’s mission in Ukraine, but just one phase in Putin’ss_ much longer project. Both Ukraine and its backers must be prepared for a protracted war.

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AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 16/08/2022 10:55

For some reason that link is cut in half and each half gives me a 404. Is it this one?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62560041?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA

Ijsbear · 16/08/2022 12:10

ISW

Key Takeaways

A reported video of LNR servicemen refusing to fight in Donetsk Oblast suggests further division among Russian-led forces.

Russian forces attempted several limited ground assaults northwest of Slovyansk.

Russian forces conducted multiple offensive operations east and southeast of Siversk and northeast and southeast of Bakhmut.

Russian forces continued conducting offensive operations northwest, west, and southwest of Donetsk City.

Russian forces conducted a limited ground assault north of Kharkiv City.

Russian and Ukrainian forces continued to trade accusations of shelling the Zaporizhia Nuclear Power Plant.

St. Petersburg authorities officially denied summoning local men to military recruitment and enlistment centers for discussions of contract service.

Russian occupation authorities continued preparations for the integration of occupied territories of Ukraine into Russia.

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⚡️Kyiv Oblast authorities: About 50 remains of civilians still unidentified in Bucha.

⚡️Ukraine's exports fall by 24% in six months.
The export of goods from Ukraine amounted to $22.7 billion since January, the equivalent of 76% for the same period last year, the State Statistics Service reported on Aug. 15.

⚡️Belarus activists: Russia amassing significant forces in Belarus for massive missile attack on Ukraine.

⚡️UN denies Russia's accusations of blocking IAEA visit to Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant

⚡️Official: Russian forces denied Red Cross full access to Ukrainian POWs in Olenivka.
Oleksandr Vlasenko, a spokesman of the International Committee of the Red Cross (IRCR), told Suspilne media that the organization visited Olenivka, Donetsk Oblast, twice after Ukrainian defenders were brought to prison. These visits did not meet the IRCR’s requirements — they were too short and the Red Cross employees couldn’t visit the entire premise or talk to the Ukrainian prisoners of war without the presence of Russian soldiers.
According to Vlasenko, the Red Cross currently has access to a number of POWs in Olenivka. Among them, some are wounded from the prison attack, and the Red Cross is trying to access the bodies of the POWs murdered during July 29 attack.

⚡️ Mayor: Russian forces set up checkpoints in Melitopol, to try to identify Ukrainian partisans, Melitopol Mayor Ivan Fedorov said in a televised address on Aug. 15, reports Hromadske.
According to Fedorov, Russian forces are also pressuring local teachers and threatening to take away parental rights should they not send their children to school, which will likely follow a Russian curriculum.

⚡️Fire, explosions reported at an ammunition depot in occupied Crimea.
Crimea Inform news site reported on Aug. 16 that a fire broke out at a transformer substation in the town of Dzhankoy and that some ammunition detonated at a depot in the village of Maiske. Russian Defense Ministry claimed that ammunition detonated due to a fire that broke out at one of the military bases in Maiske.

⚡️Air Force: Ukraine to prepare for possible attacks on Independence Day.

🗣 Melitopol Mayor Ivan Fedorov reported that the city had been without gas for three weeks, and the invaders would not have time to fix the gas supply system and start the heating season on time.

🚁
The Ukrainian Air Force received four Mi-17 and Mi-2 helicopters from Latvia – they will soon be fully integrated into the Ukrainian Air Force aviation fleet.

💡Serbia abandoned the Russian Federation military base and will train the army according to NATO standards

🔹Scholz does not support the ban on issuing tourist visas for Russians — Reuters
"What is important for us is that we understand that many people are fleeing Russia because they don't agree with the Russian regime," he said after a meeting with Nordic leaders in Oslo on Monday.

🗣 Agents of the Federal Security Service visit Europe under the guise of Russian tourists. That's why Europeans need to take care of their security and carefully check those who want to join the EU – former Foreign Minister of Ukraine Pavlo Klimkin

🌊 Mine explosion on the beach in the Odesa region (there were holidaymakers very nearby)

🇨🇳 China does not help Russia in war against Ukraine and continues to observe neutrality – Kuleba
According to him, at the level of narratives, the Chinese interpretation of the causes of the war coincides with the Russian one. However, the Russian Federation does not receive practical assistance.
“China remains neutral for now. Politically, at the level of narratives, their interpretation of the causes of the war coincides. But at the level of practical support that Russia is so eager for, China remains neutral,” the minister said.

🚢 Another ship Brave Commander with grain left Ukraine for Africa, according to the Ministry of Infrastructure. There are 23 thousand tons of wheat on board

Ukraine Invasion: Part 29
Ukraine Invasion: Part 29
blueshoes · 16/08/2022 12:28

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 16/08/2022 10:55

For some reason that link is cut in half and each half gives me a 404. Is it this one?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62560041?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA

More explosions in Crimea (yay!), this time to the north and so closer to the Ukraine frontlines. From the video, it is a whole row of explosions. So looks like a missile strike rather than someone 'dropping their cigarette'. I guess we wait for more news ...

blueshoes · 16/08/2022 13:09

@Ijsbearthanks for the Key Takeaways.

⚡️Fire, explosions reported at an ammunition depot in occupied Crimea.
Crimea Inform news site reported on Aug. 16 that a fire broke out at a transformer substation in the town of Dzhankoy and that some ammunition detonated at a depot in the village of Maiske. Russian Defense Ministry claimed that ammunition detonated due to a fire that broke out at one of the military bases in Maiske.

I see that Russia is predictably claiming it is a fire that broke out. Presumably accidental fire from a dropped cigarette not fire from a missile strike..

Ijsbear · 16/08/2022 13:26

⚡️Fire spotters who help Russia adjust attacks won’t be released on bail.

Ukraine’s Verkhovna Rada voted to change the law surrounding those who help adjust and correct Russian fire and attacks, making it impossible for them to be released on bail, lawmaker Yaroslav Zheleznyak from the Voice Party announced.

OwlsDance · 16/08/2022 15:15

They are now saying it's sabotage.

Ijsbear · 16/08/2022 15:36

And not only in Crimea!

⚡️Railway blown up in Russia's Kursk Oblast.

Unidentified individuals in Russia's Kursk Oblast on Aug. 16 blew up a part of a railway only used for freight trains, Russian media Baza reported. According to investigators, someone planted an explosive device with about 200 grams of TNT under the rail and detonated it.

MissConductUS · 16/08/2022 18:53

More explosions in Crimea today. According the Telegraph's podcast, it was an ammo dump, a railway electrical substation and a military airfield (Not Saky).

www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/08/16/ukraine-news-russia-war-kherson-counter-attack-latest-putin/

In other news, Putin was at the annual Russian arms export show, extolling the vast superiority of Russian weapons compared to western ones. You have to admire such a prodigious liar and con man.

Natsku · 16/08/2022 19:33

Oooo nice sabotage! It certainly raises the spirits

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