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The one where Big Dog gets poop scooped Thread 10

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InMySpareTime · 07/07/2022 13:25

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http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/4584475-boris-johnson-and-the-long-road-to-nowhere-38-resignations-and-counting-thread-9

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Notonthestairs · 11/07/2022 17:59

Yes, more of the same. Possibly worse than the same as they'll need to show they are sufficiently pure of heart to satisfy the ERG wingnuts.

The fact that none of them can drop Rwanda (because it will make them look decent and law abiding) is quite telling.

DuncinToffee · 11/07/2022 18:25

🚨New Westminster Voting Intention🚨

📈15pt Labour lead, first @SavantaComRes poll since the PM resigned

🌳Con 28 (-4)
🌹Lab 43 (+2)
🔶LD 12 (+1)
🎗️SNP 4 (=)
🌍Gre 4 (+1)
⬜️Other 8 (-2)

2,168 UK adults, 8-10 Jul

(chg from 1-3 Jul)

twitter.com/SavantaComRes/status/1546519684056588289?t=JuTrXoRHkxN5LpV1JJbScw&s=19

tobee · 11/07/2022 18:48

Sorry being lazy here but when is the 1922 committee stuff happening?

MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 11/07/2022 18:54

I see that Ben Wallace features in The Week In Tory and is no longer a leadership/PM candidate @DuncinToffee Some will remember my pp about him, relating to a deeply regrettable Public Interest Immunity Certificate.

The new NI Secretary mentioned in TWIT, replacing Brandon Lewis who resigned from BJs cabinet, is Shailesh Vara, Conservative MP for North West Cambridgeshire. As well as his passport query, he also thought that NI is a part of Great Britain. This is all despite previously being a minister in the NI Office for 5 months under Theresa May. We can only hope and pray that Mr Vara does not make the same mistake as Ben Wallace when considering signing the PSNI (police) application for a PIIC in the case of Noah Donohoe.

On a lighter note, this NaDo and BoJo duet will either cheer up or ruin your Monday evening:
twitter.com/Conac02/status/1546180398308360192/video/1

tobee · 11/07/2022 18:54

Ooh I've just seen. Does anyone know who these committee members are?

The one where Big Dog gets poop scooped Thread 10
The one where Big Dog gets poop scooped Thread 10
the80sweregreat · 11/07/2022 18:57

I heard it might be 20 backers needed to proceed ? ( sky news)
That's Shapps out the running then.

DuncinToffee · 11/07/2022 19:35

Beth Rigby just now tweets

We’re still waiting for Sir Graham, but told that the threshold agreed by ‘22 is 20 backers. As it stands currently only Sunak & Mordaunt have hit that threshold. Tugenhat on 19, Truss on 15 (but so many MPs still to declare)

the80sweregreat · 11/07/2022 19:36

Priti might run yet too

DuncinToffee · 11/07/2022 19:42

According to various sources her pitch includes

ditching green levies
addressing cost of living
cutting taxes
looking again at fracking
refusing to "cave in" to EU

Great Hmm

the80sweregreat · 11/07/2022 19:44

You forgot sending people to Rwanda too.

tobee · 11/07/2022 19:45

God I read that as "ditching green leaves". Didn't seem that surprising tbh

tobee · 11/07/2022 19:48

Anyway, any analysis of the 1922 members? I get the impression that getting Johnson's arse out of Downing Street asap and installing a caretaker ain't gonna happen? But I'd be interested in the make up of the '22 to see how things might go forward.

DuncinToffee · 11/07/2022 19:56

Anyway, any analysis of the 1922 members?

I don't know who they are, I recognise Graham Brady, Nus Ghani and Willy Wragg but that's it.

tobee · 11/07/2022 20:00

the80sweregreat · 11/07/2022 19:44

You forgot sending people to Rwanda too.

Candidates seem to have decided that that is going to go down really well with colleagues, members and Tory voters. Sad

Notonthestairs · 11/07/2022 20:00

Only 1 from ERG I think (Chris Green)

DuncinToffee · 11/07/2022 20:00

Timetable announced by Sir Graham
Tues: Nominations open & close
Weds: 1st MPs ballot (candidates need 20 MPs to enter)
Thurs: To enter 2nd ballot candidates need 30 votes in 1st round
Thinks could get down to 2 by Mon of def by Jul 21
Then hustings
New PM declared: Sept 5th

tobee · 11/07/2022 20:01

Thanks @DuncinToffee and @Notonthestairs

(I can never get my @ s to work anymore)

DuncinToffee · 11/07/2022 20:08

LATEST Rumours in Westminster tonight that Jacob Rees-Mogg is NOT going to enter the Conservative leadership race after all.
No comment from the JRM camp

Notonthestairs · 11/07/2022 20:09

I'm struggling to place most of the names though!
Halfon I remember because I lived briefly in his constituency. He was one of the few Tories to support EDM to extend school meals. He's also in favour of apprenticeships (which always always gets my attention). .

WaitroseWoman · 11/07/2022 20:15

Aaron Bell rings a...bell with me, can't think why though, other than he's one of the 2019 intake and twice called for a VONC against Johnson. It seems he's a big Tugendhat supporter:

twitter.com/AaronBell4NUL

DuncinToffee · 11/07/2022 20:18

I confused him with Aaron Bank for a sec

Notonthestairs · 11/07/2022 20:24

Martin Vickers is part of the Common Sense Group which seems to have some overlap with ERG. They think the National Trust is Marxist and woke. 🙄

DowningStreetParty · 11/07/2022 20:24

www.politicshome.com/thehouse/article/boris-johnson-downing-street-labour-vote-of-no-confidence

Can someone please explain in light of the above, how the Parliamentary vote of no confidence plays into all this. If Labour call it tomorrow, which they need to, then won’t all the Tories will vote to say that they have confidence in a PM that in truth most of them do not have any confidence in… just to avoid an immediate general election? How does that work with Johnson clearly being so awful that he needs to step down as PM. Why isn’t he gone already?

Don’t the Tories need to have a replacement candidate to be ready to respond to losing a VONC? I think that’s what the Institute for government says. They clearly haven’t got that agreed. Maybe hence this lengthy leadership race to make sure of it. But then what happens tomorrow?

The IoG’s podcast (latest episode: called ‘exit means exit’) was talking about this point last week: www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/podcast

I’m really worried that Boris has played another blinder for his own benefit- we’ve all taken our eyes off him, while we’re worrying about the increasingly narrow and awful choices for the leadership competition… meanwhile he’s doing god knows what elsewhere to make sure he comes out of all this to his personal advantage. Not usually how it happens when people do really bad things in their job. Hmm

tobee · 11/07/2022 20:31

Agree @DowningStreetParty

Quia · 11/07/2022 20:46

DuncinToffee · 11/07/2022 09:53

They are all promising to cut (corporate) taxes without explaining how they are planning to do that.

Zahawi mentioned 20% across departments so I guess that includes Health and Education.

The happy news is that Braverman will do it by cutting benefits. So there's a lovely future - richer shareholders while children go hungry.

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