The one where Big Dog gets poop scooped Thread 10

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Everybody's doing it!

Are they all going to give up to let Johnson back in Andrea? Now they've got a taste for it?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-62105688.amp

Andrea Jenkyns, the brand new Education Minister, gestures to the public outside Downing Street to fuck off with her middle finger.
A Minister in the government doing that to the public. How dare she?

Why isn’t there more outrage about this.
Because we’re already expecting this Tory government to behave like arrogant arseholes who hate ordinary people, we aren’t even surprised when they do it right in our faces now. But Ministers are not supposed to do this. What happened to Nolan principles? Standards in public life? Being a public servant?

Fucking hell, what is the Tory party coming to? (even by their appalling standards)

Please do not forget that Keir had a beer and Corbyn...

I have sent an email to
[email protected]

We have to hold this band of loons to account. It's getting out of hand.

What a world beating idea leaving Johnson in post

I just can't imagine a PM called Grant.

Thank you for the email I will do the same. It’s disgustingly entitled behaviour.

How have we gone from Andrew Mitchell/Plebgate to the new Education Minister thinking this is any way acceptable?

I’m sure it’s pretty annoying to have to walk past barracking like that. I’m not a big fan of the journalists who shout out snarky questions as politicians walk by either. Other politicians have spoken about how frightening it can be to face abuse and I have sympathy for them, whatever their party. But surely you just hold your head up high and walk past them. I suppose if the Moral High Ground is an alien concept to this current crop of Tory MPs it’s impossible for them to take it.

And also that Maggie went immediately. So it can hardly be said to be an established practice.

My MP, doesn't even need a crowd of onlookers to be offensive to the general public. They excelled themselves a few years ago in being abusive to volunteer marshals at a local run, where the road he lived on was closed.
Quite unreasonable to shut his road and not tell him (despite everyone on the road being flyered, and there being signs all around town).

Needless to say they are Johnson fanboi.

Neither May nor Cameron were likely to deliberately cause as much trouble as possible before they left. All MPs are self-serving to some degree, but Johnson and his new cabinet take it to a whole new level. With added contempt and spite.

schoolsweek.co.uk/a-new-low-chartered-college-lodges-complaint-over-swearing-minister/

Dame Alison Peacock, Chief executive of the Chartered College of Teaching, revealed she had written to the DfE to “remind education ministers” of the Nolan Principles, or seven principles of public life.

They state that holders of public office should “exhibit these principles in their own behaviour and treat others with respect”.

“Our profession abides by these principles as part of our teacher standards,” said Peacock this morning.

The standards state that teachers must “demonstrate consistently the positive attitudes, values and behaviour which are expected of pupils” and establish a “safe and stimulating environment for pupils, rooted in mutual respect”.

In a section of her email to DfE permanent secretary Susan Acland-Hood, shared with Schools Week, Peacock said: “I understand that these are tense uncertain times in politics.

“But to proceed with a ministerial appointment of someone who is unable to abide by the principles of public life is sinking to a new low.”

Others have questioned whether her behaviour meets the ministerial code, which requires ministers to maintain “high standards of behaviour and to behave in a way that upholds the highest standards of propriety”.

Ministers should also “be professional in all their dealings and treat all those with whom they come into contact with consideration and respect”.

I just can't imagine a PM called Grant

He could always call himself Michael or Corinne, he has multiple identities, remember.

I've been driving for most of today, and consequently listening to a lot of radio about the last few days - The Week in Westminster, Any Questions and Any Answers. Yes, there were a few of the expected 'Boris got the big calls right'-type true believers, but on the whole, people were angry. They felt betrayed, let down, furious that we’ve ended up where we are, thanks to Johnson and his grubby evasions. Not to mention all the rest of his merry band of non-doms, gropers, middle-finger-extenders, PPE contract-seekers et al.

If he tried to pull a fast one after the events of the past week and had the absolute brazen audacity to try and seize back control of the Tory party, I’d really like to think that all hell would break loose, and rightly so.

I've had an auto response so I know it's the right address. If the standards slip so low as this, the whole country has a problem. Who can defend this. I listened to minutes before she did it and after, yes it was booing, yes it was 'Bye Bye Boris' being sung, but there were plenty of police there. There was no danger, it was just a huge irritant to her. We can boo, we're not North Korea
She also bellowed at the crowd on the way out. "He who laugh last laughs longest" or some such drivel

These people hold us in total contempt.

By the way that Schools Week link above shows the video of her striding into Downing Street, middle finger aloft.

Please don’t tell me this MP told the public to fuck off BEFORE she was made a Minister? …and Johnson still went ahead with it. As you can see she’s with two colleagues at the time so it would not have been secret.

@DowningStreetParty

Your words and facts are so good I think I might have to do another email from my 2nd email address I keep for shopping stuff!

I had no idea about Grant's many other names until I saw the sky news tweet that he was going for the top job.
You live and learn

Has Wallace bowed out because he's realised it's a poisoned chalice? I wondered whether his reasoning was that there's every chance of the Tories losing the next election whereupon any new leader would probably have to resign, so it's better to stand for the leadership at that point.

Quia - I've heard on the radio (Andrew Marr I think) that Wallace's ambitions are to lead NATO.

I think that might have changed or be about to. I heard someone senior in the Conservative party saying they were looking to raise the minimum number of backer required in order to keep the number of candidates manageable.

They were also not in a position where over 50 ministers, PPSs etc had said publicly that they could not work with them due to their dishonesty and lack of integrity.

One of the most unedifying aspects of the current situation is the number of those ministers who suddenly discover that they can work with him after all.

Carrie must have been aware of BoJo's secret agenda as she looked too happy for it to be a resignation.

Thank you Rousette it’s so infuriating. I am trying to keep my email drafting clean. I just feel we’re being laughed at by the Tory Party and they haven’t changed a bit, they won’t change, and incidents like this where the mask slips are just so revealing and horrible.

and I can answer my own question:

Ms Jenkyns was appointed parliamentary under-secretary of state at the Department for Education on Friday in a reshuffle by Mr Johnson.

The footage, shared on social media on Thursday evening, appears to have been filmed shortly before Mr Johnson announced he was stepping down as leader of the Conservative Party.

news.sky.com/story/amp/andrea-jenkyns-education-minister-on-why-she-made-rude-gesture-outside-downing-street-12648737

They absolutely knew about her doing it and still thought she would make a really great Education Minister. I wonder why but then I saw that: The education minister (Jenkyns) was one of the MPs to show support for Mr Johnson outside No 10 on Thursday as he announced his resignation.

The Guardian has quoted a few senior figures in education and Parliament politics saying how disgraceful it is for an MP or Minister to tell voters to fuck off: www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jul/09/tory-mp-says-made-rude-gesture-aprovoked-baying-mob-andrea-jenkyns

Jenkyn’s tweet of her Ministerial appointment is just trolling us:

Am I losing the plot? I'm feeling quite depressed to realise I'm old enough to be Ben Wallace's mother. How the hell did that happen?

I think his talents do lie there better.

And there's a risk if he became a PM it could hinder future decent appointments (especially leader of our current Tory party)

Boris Johnson lobbied for a job for a young woman who claims he abused his power to have a sexual relationship with her.
The then London mayor and MP for Henley advocated for her to get a job in City Hall weeks after meeting her and bringing her back to his parliamentary office.
The appointment was blocked because Johnson’s colleague, the newly appointed Cabinet Office minister Kit Malthouse, said they appeared to have an inappropriately close relationship.

twitter.com/thetimes/status/1545827050723938307?s=21&t=jWZEt39Cp9VrHjpD5ztrJw

Happened in 2008. He was married with 4 kids.

He has a bit of a modus operandi doesn't he?

Wonder how long they have been sitting on this.