Anyone else just think it’s great that life is back to “normal”?

[curiousitygotthebetterofme]

After two years of covid restrictions, I mean.

Was just watching Glastonbury and looking at the big crowds of people there, it’s hard to believe we have had so many restrictions over the last two years.

This time in 2020 and even this time last year I never thought we’d get back to this level of normality, well at least not for an extremely long time so I just think it’s wonderful to see everyone back together and enjoying themselves again

@Topgub i didn’t say it did, I was just showing where the 20% figure comes from

@toomuchlaundry

Yes I know but the poster whi first quoted seemed to be implying it

And you also realise that the symptoms you are getting from covid are getting worse with the number if exposures? So the more you are getting covid, the more I’ll you get.

If this was true, we’d be seeing a higher proportion of infections ending up in hospital admissions and in ICU admissions. We’re very clearly not, so good news!

Also if we’re defining long covid as ‘any symptoms lasting 4+ weeks’ then I had it myself, and I would definitely rather go through that again than put up with anyone else’s idea of ‘sensible mitigations’ on how I life my life…

I don't think long covid should be taken lightly, especially in working age people.

The UK is getting to very high numbers now with impacts affecting ability to work, we already have a productivity issue and widespread poverty - increased ill health is a serious problem.

Unfortunately we do not have a serious government and they are lying to us about covid, so we are not going to get any sense about this risk any time soon.

I agree. I firmly believe that for many people Covid (and all things pertaining to) has become a lifestyle.

'lifestyle'

Believe that if it helps you feel better, but the medical profession, insurers/actuaries and government officials are genuinely concerned about the real impacts on the workforce and young people.

Sorry but people can't stay locked away forever. Life has to return to normal.

And you also realise that the symptoms you are getting from covid are getting worse with the number if exposures? So the more you are getting covid, the more I’ll you get

Bollocks.

Every single person I know who's had more than one bout of covid (including us) has experienced a far milder infection on each subsequent bout.

The figures and stats support this to be the case.

Covid is still rife. Hundreds of thousands of people, if not millions, have had it more than once now. If what you said was true then hospital admissions would be on a constant rise.

The poster was saying what the new normal has meant for them

"Sorry but". Pfffft

I expect the number of people with genuine long Covid are vanishingly small. I also expect the numbers of people suffering with <cough> long Covid <cough> will increase quite dramatically.

@peaceanddove i know 3 people with long COVID, their lives are completely ruined at the moment, and has been for months. They are not making it up.

I have quite a small social circle, so to have 3 friends with it is quite scary

Tbh, you can expect/believe/think whatever you like.

Medical experts, insurers/actuaries and government officials have facts.

Some people say the earth is flat, doesn't make it true.

That’s very unlucky. I have a big social circle and know no one that has it.

@echt And thanking everyone for it. Sounds like she'd be happier if we all stayed at home hiding behind the sofa. Fuck that.

That's your inference, not necessarily her implication.

I never doubted we would get back to normal?

In each lock down we had little moments of normality anyway. Of course not on this scale.

It does feel great and it's so important esp for younger people to get out to thing like glasto.
However COVID is still here, it might mutate,no one knows and it would be absolutely ridiculous to pretend at the moment,we just don't know.
So I'm living as much as I can!

I'm mostly delighted for other people.

But living with an immunosuppressed person we are not able to be back to normal. Fucking give the 500,000 immunosuppressed people Evusheld Boris Johnson you bastard.

@peaceanddove So sorry to hear that about your diagnosis. It must have been such a scary time for you. I hope you're making good progress with your treatment. Take care. x

Nothing to do with THEM being unlucky.

More likely that some of the people you know don’t realise they have long covid - they just complain of some weird stuff they didn’t have before, like pain, headaches, tiredness Wo making the relationship. There are many of those around.

OR they know but also know there is little they can do so just get in with it.

OR they don’t tell others. Maybe because they are worried about what people will say. Or they’ve already been told it’s just a coincidence. Or the GP has brushed them off. Or they are surrounded by people telling them covid just a cold. Basically they don’t care saying it. And wait until they reach they stage where they can’t work.

Ive met quite a few people in all 3 if those cases.

Its a bit like some friends of mine who tell me they can’t believe 95% of girls under 20yo have been sexually assaulted because they dint see that around them. Is it because it actually doesn’t happen or because it’s not visible to them/people dont talk/it so happens THEY didn’t experience it??

I advise you to read around about, stating with the ONS report showing there are over 2 millions people with long covid in the U.K.
And about 500.000 who are severe (will go up a lot in the next few months as those numbers do not take into account the omicron wave of April. Only the January wave).

What you feel or suspect <cough> doesn’t matter at all. Feelings don’t make it a reality <cough>. Facts do <cough>
Unfortunately, we seem to have forgotten facts in those last few years in favour of feelings that have never allowed you take wise decisions. :(:(

But if restrictions were in place the massive family wedding wouldn't have been able to go ahead anyway, you still wouldn't have gone!

I've been rather shocked at the casual callousness of some of the posts on this thread, the "some people will get covid but tough shit, we can't organise society around the needs of vulnerable people".

But its always been that way? There have always been people who were highly vulnerable to colds, flu, chicken pox, any virus/infection. We didn't lock down the country or have restrictions for those illnesses, so we don't for covid either. The only reason for lockdown was to prevent the NHS collapsing, the government doesn't actually care about vulnerable people individually.

The definition the ONS use for long covid is so wide as to be meaningless. You only ever get to figures like that, when using a decent wide sample size as they do, by using a ridiculous definition. A person who still has a cough after 29 days is included in the two million the same way as a person who is bedridden years after infection. Speaking as a person who according to the ONS counts as a long covid sufferer, it's laughable.

And in answer to the OP, yes 'going back to normal' is better than the alternative of pretending any of the things we've done to try and control covid spread in the past would achieve anything. Better to have Glastonbury than not.

cows not milked That would never happen.
Last week should have been fantastic. The biggest agricultural show in Scotland and my animals won top prizes. But I am vaccine injured (confirmed by my consultant) I'm barely living. However I'm delighted to see people enjoying themselves. Especially younger people in their twenties and teens. It's been absolutely shit for them and of course much older people who have died in their droves.

@derxa RHS? Looked amazing, sadly I was stuck at work but even catching up on the highlights on social media was lovely to see. Well done on your animals winning! And sorry to hear you've been so affected although it does anger me when some people see this happening and it's 'oh well, this can happen but is so unusual' while still going on about long covid and as per pp lumping in someone with the sniffles as someone bed bound in their numbers.