Irish passport - does it extend to husband?

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My paternal grandad was Irish and I'm going to apply for an Irish passport this year once I'm married. I want freedom to move around the eu again basically !
I was just wondering does anyone know if for example I came into a situation where I could move to Ireland or even Spain etc does it apply to my husband too? So because he is my husband he gets it through me by proxy? He cannot apply for an Irish passport because it isn't in his heritage. I know I would also have to apply for my children too.
Thanks

No.
Nor your children.
For them to get an Irish passport they would need to be resident in Ireland...I think it's 5 years

No, it’s only you.

I think Flo has it right. My DH has an Irish passport and implied citizenship because his parent was born there. But it confers no benefit to me, either in terms of travel or potential citizenship — to Ireland or any other country within the EU. If I wanted an Irish passport and citizenship I’d have to live in Ireland for five years, even though he could move there tomorrow if he wanted.

Ahhh. So if we went to live in Ireland for 5 years he could then apply himself and so could our children?

Only you are eligible for the passport. Not your husband or children. If you moved to Ireland they could accompany you and eventually apply for their own citizenship that way.

Unless you’re already on the Irish foreign births register your children (assuming they’re already born) won’t be eligible for Irish citizenship now either. They’d have to live in Ireland for five years to get it via naturalisation.

The current situation in Spain is that with an Irish passport, you could move here, apply for residency as an EU citizen and then if that is granted your husband and children could apply under the reunification of families provisions. It's complicated & involves masses of paperwork but do-able.

Bear in mind also that the application itself is longwinded. It took DH about 18 months in total. You have to show and send the original birth certificate of the Irish relative, which I know has caused issues for some people, plus mountains of other paperwork.

I have an Irish passport....my dad was from Ireland and my maternal grandparents, though my mum was born in London. I don't have kids but my nieces and nephews have Irish passports via their grandfather (my dad) but that's as far as it goes. And you can't get one by marriage, I'm afraid. So in short your husband and kids can't get one unless as mentioned they live there for 5 years.

You’re only able to get an Irish passport if your parent has one first. They then need to add you to the register for foreign born children

my Mum is Irish, I’ve always had an Irish passport although born in England and for my children to get a passport they need to be added to that register. There’s a two year wait at the moment.

OP I’m so glad you posted this. I was looking this up just yesterday. My grandparents were born in Ireland, my mother in UK, complicated by the fact my mum has sadly passed. I was looking at getting her on the Foreign births register and then applying for a passport for myself. I assumed once I had my passport, my DH and DC could also claim Irish nationality/passport but it appears not if I understand correctly.
I may still do it for myself as my employer is HQd in another European country and I’d quite like to move there at some point…figured it would be far easier with EU passport.

After lots of research before I was under the impression I could still apply for one even though my dad has never bothered. I've got all relevant paperwork including my grandads passport, birth certificate and marriage certificate. I've also got my dads birth certificate and of course my own

www.dfa.ie/citizenship/born-abroad/registering-a-foreign-birth/

My husband was born on the island of Ireland and has a British passport and now has an Irish passport too. I know I am not entitled to Irish citizenship.

I am confused whether our children (born before he actually applied for his Irish passport) need to be registered on the foreign birth register though??!!

“You are automatically an Irish citizen if one of your parents was an Irish citizen at the time of your birth, and was born on the island of Ireland. You don't need to apply to become an Irish citizen in this case.”

Was he an Irish citizen even though he hadn’t applied for an Irish passport?

You have to show and send the original birth certificate of the Irish relative, which I know has caused issues for some people

I recently obtained my dads BC, so that I can apply for my passport. I had been put off doing it as I thought it would be difficult, but it ended up being very straight forward.

I emailed Dublin records office first, to make sure dads birth was recorded correctly (online records only go up to 1921), got a confirmation within about 20 mins.

There are then 2 options to apply - an online application, or fill in a form and email back, they then send a payment link.

I tried the online option but it wouldn’t accept any of my UK payment cards, I think maybe the 2 stage authentication caused an issue.

So I then tried the form option, expecting it to take weeks, but within just over a week, I received the payment link, which worked. I paid for registered post and had BC a few days later.

One of my tasks this weekend is to do the online Irish passport application - has anyone done this recently, if so, did the payment system work? I am wondering if I will have same problem as with BC application?

Your husband has no automatic claim to an Irish passport but he and your children can accompany you to live and work in Ireland or any other EU country once you have an EU passport.

europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/residence/family-residence-rights/non-eu-wife-husband-children/index_en.htm

If he is a UK passport holder he already has the right to live and work in Ireland under UK Ireland bi-lateral agreements which are independent of any EU treaties.

If you or your parent were born on the island of Ireland before 2005, you are an Irish citizen. You can apply for an Irish passport without making an application for citizenship.

@PeterPomegranate

The above is taken from the Irish passport site - as your DH was born in Ireland (presumably before 2005!), your kids are automatically Irish citizens and don’t need to be added to the foreign births register. That is my understanding, as I am also the child of an Ireland-born parent.

I'm like your husband OP! I agree I shouldn't be entitled to one but I'm sad because I bloody hate Brexit and all the complete non-benefits it's brought.

Im curious what happens with my future grandchildren though. My MIL was born in Ireland. DH registered himself as a foreign birth and got his citizenship/ passport before we had our DCs. He's in the process of applying for their Irish PP. So, could their hypothetical kids apply too? I thought not, but now I think that the fact that DH was a citizen prior to our DCs being born means they can?

It's just me in the rubbish passport queue!

Are you having a laugh???

Does any country have a passport/citizenship process that once one spouse gets a passport it automatically extends to the rest of the family?

Also, if you're using this to gain free movement around the EU again, can I recommend that you instead contact your elected representative and campaign to get free movement for UK citizens again - say by joining a group called the EU again???

I realise that my post above is going to be unpopular but the issue you're experiencing began in the UK and you're looking to Ireland to fix it for you - by getting an Irish passport that will allow you have the freedom of movement that you HAD but your citizens voted to give up as part of Brexit.

It pushes my buttons when I see that UK citizens HAD this freedom of movement and blindly voted to give it up like it was something bad, and needed to be done away with.

Apologies OP. I think I just need more coffee to calm me down. Sorry.

@LoveItOrListIt

My understanding is that your mum was automatically an Irish citizen (as her parents were born in Ireland) therefore would not need to be added to foreign births register.

Only you would need to be added to the foreign births register. I don’t think it matters that she didn’t have an Irish passport, you are applying as the grandchild of an Irish born grandparent.

If you were born outside of Ireland, you can become an Irish citizen if:

One of your grandparents was born in Ireland

You will need BC of a grandparent and your mum, and death certificates, plus your BC, marriage if applicable, and other paperwork.

We got caught out by this as well. DH is entitled to irish citizenship through his 4 irish grandparents. I knew i wouldn't be eligible through him unless we went to live in Ireland, but we hoped our DC would. But DD1 made an appearance before he got sorted with the registry of foreign births, so she can't get it through him anymore. We hope one day she might want to spend some time in Ireland with that side of the family so it might be an option for her to pursue as an adult in the future.

I never voted to leave the EU actually ! Not everyone in England voted to leave you know lol
And I'm simply applying for something I have a right to through my heritage ! My question was that of genuine curiosity because I didn't know...

Italy and France do, I believe. But not Ireland.

Depends if you have had your kids yet.?

Any children born after you have your passport can then get a Irish passport

I'm in same boat , my mother was Irish.

But my kids are 5/7 and it's if no use to my family now me getting one so I didn't bother

No way fir my kids or husband to get so I didn't bother.