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Hospitality has gone mad salary wise

51 replies

justasking111 · 31/05/2022 16:05

Family member a chef landed a job 28 hours a week £23 per hour. He's worked one week and has been poached by another business same hours but £28 per hour. We're talking about a bog standard tourism area here not a city or a Michelin star business. It's nuts this area is dead in the autumn winter and he's taken a job in the middle of nowhere.

We're going to be paying a lot more to eat out aren't we??

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OnlyFoolsnMothers · 31/05/2022 16:10

yes but it's supply and demand, if people are paying then they can afford the wages.

Rupertpenrysmistress · 31/05/2022 16:11

Blimey that is good pay. I guess we will be paying more, are chefs particularly difficult to recruit?

balalake · 31/05/2022 16:11

It would be nice if the extra cost could only be passed on to the 52%.

Badbadbunny · 31/05/2022 16:15

About time people were paid properly (and yes, prices rise to fund it). For far too long, wages have been far too low for people with skills, in particular manual skills, many of whom have been expected to work at or close to minimum wage. NMW really should be for the genuinely unskilled doing the simplest/easiest of jobs, not a job that actually requires training/knowledge/experience etc.

Ilikewinter · 31/05/2022 16:15

Guess so, i went to a standard chain pub last week, i last went late last year. Burger and chips cost around £9 / £10. Last weekend it was £16 ....... I didn't bother!

QuebecBagnet · 31/05/2022 16:16

I’m currently on holiday in the U.K., touristy area. Every single pub and cafe has a sign outside saying staff wanted. Bar staff, chefs, waiting staff.

Badbadbunny · 31/05/2022 16:17

Ilikewinter · 31/05/2022 16:15

Guess so, i went to a standard chain pub last week, i last went late last year. Burger and chips cost around £9 / £10. Last weekend it was £16 ....... I didn't bother!

Part of that is the VAT hike, then the wages increases required to actually attract staff, plus increased cost of the food, plus increased cost of the power, increase in NIC. Business costs are rising, probably higher than domestic inflation, at the moment.

QuebecBagnet · 31/05/2022 16:18

Dd works in a bar/restaurant. The chefs don’t stay long, her company were offering them all a £500 intro bonus if they found a chef. Dd is bar staff but has ended up in the kitchen cooking some shifts. She does no cooking at home so can’t imagine how she’s managed!

TheFlis12345 · 31/05/2022 16:20

My BIL is a chef living in a tourist area, he practically has places fighting over him and gets approached on a weekly basis about new jobs on ever higher wages!

LaurieFairyCake · 31/05/2022 16:21

Good, about time wages rose

My daughter has an entry level job paid at the same rate as my entry level job 27 years ago!

(I bought a (shit) house on that salary - she's renting and paying three times my first mortgage for the worst flat you ever saw)

Wages are a DISGRACE to this country - business being supported by a 'low business tax' government just means all their mates have got so much richer Hmm

BarbaraofSeville · 31/05/2022 16:27

Cheffing is really hard work, unsociable hours and while they're paid for 28 hours, they probably work at least twice that.

But yes, eating out is going to get a lot more expensive at a time when more people have less disposable income and are going to start questionning the value of eating out, especially when they see the price of a weekly shop go on one meal.

restedbutexhausted · 31/05/2022 16:38

Boyfriend is a chef and since I've known him has exceeded his contracted hours every week and doesnt get paid any extra for it. It's a really shoddy job in that respect. Good to see that wages are increasing.

Front of house hospitality is pretty much the same. If you work in management your social life is a catastrophe, wages are stagnant while minimum wage creeps up (not that I take issue with minimum wage being increased, minimum wage is absolutely appalling), lots of free work and working from home needed etc etc.

Ilikewinter · 31/05/2022 16:42

But yes, eating out is going to get a lot more expensive at a time when more people have less disposable income and are going to start questionning the value of eating out, especially when they see the price of a weekly shop go on one meal

This was my issue, so Saturday pub lunch burger and chips with a couple of drinks would be £40 for DH and I, we just couldn't justify that cost...... however I dont begrudge decent salaries for anyone, just not sure that people will be able to keep paying, unfortunately lunch out is a luxury for us not a necessity

anniegun · 31/05/2022 16:42

It is good news that jobs in a sector that is notoriously hard work are finally rising to decent levels. I was amazed how little Chefs earned for a high skilled job working anti-social hours

Oldfilmsareshit · 31/05/2022 16:46

Is £50k a year for a chef crazy? Doesn’t sound it to me. Plus he’d only be taking home £40k as it’s not full time hours

Cameleongirl · 31/05/2022 16:59

My DD (17) has just got her first job in a restaurant waitressing and doing kitchen clean-up ( it’s a small place so she has to pitch in) . She’s being paid $13/hour plus tips- so that’s just under £12/hour at the current exchange rate.

I was surprised as she has no work experience at all, that’s what teenagers are being paid now!

So yes, going out to eat must be more expensive!

QuebecBagnet · 31/05/2022 17:08

I’d imagine is what will happen is as people get squeezed financially they will cut down on eating out. Some places will go bust. Then there will be less jobs and out of work chefs, maybe wages will come down then or maybe eating out will become something only the well off minority can do.

Libertaire · 31/05/2022 17:17

Good for him. Skilled hospitality workers have been ridiculously underpaid for too long and it’s good to see a group of ordinary workers with real financial bargaining power. Why should bosses be able to pay themselves fortunes while expecting their workers to scrape by on minimum wage?

DogsAndGin · 31/05/2022 17:32

Rupertpenrysmistress · 31/05/2022 16:11

Blimey that is good pay. I guess we will be paying more, are chefs particularly difficult to recruit?

Probably are now that all the European ones have had to go home!

Libertaire · 31/05/2022 17:59

BarbaraofSeville · 31/05/2022 16:27

Cheffing is really hard work, unsociable hours and while they're paid for 28 hours, they probably work at least twice that.

But yes, eating out is going to get a lot more expensive at a time when more people have less disposable income and are going to start questionning the value of eating out, especially when they see the price of a weekly shop go on one meal.

I agree. If this trend continues, we will go back to how it was before the 1990s, when most ordinary people could only afford to eat out a handful of times a year, on special occasions, and a pub meal was a cheese & onion roll with a packet of crisps.

tenjishut · 31/05/2022 18:02

It's supply & demand

tenjishut · 31/05/2022 18:03

For far too long, wages have been far too low for people with skills, in particular manual skills, many of whom have been expected to work at or close to minimum wage.

agree

tenjishut · 31/05/2022 18:04

Prices of eating out will be doing up anyway, food is more expensive so is energy plus other increased costs.

JackieCollinshasnoauthority · 31/05/2022 18:05

Are they really working 28 hours?

tenjishut · 31/05/2022 18:06

Also it may cost more at the point of sale to pay more for food out but cheap wages are subsidised by benefits out of taxes so your still paying for it.