Texas school shooting!

[youngestisapsycho]

Just watching on news now.. shocking!

Mathanxiety - Trump and W in 2000 did not win the popular vote! So that leaves Bush senior and W in 2004. So twice since Regan for republicans compared to the 7 times the democratic candidate has won the popular vote. Once again, this idea that America is a conservative country is bullshit.

I'm sorry, but it's too late for me to get started on the Supreme Court and their evisceration of federal voting right protections. States rights my ass.

Sadly it even happens in this country as it did in my hometown college not long ago

Guns are harder to get in the UK and not legal but still happens :(

Yes, it's definitely not as clearcut as a list of presidents would seem to suggest, @Cartoonmom.

Vote totals obviously tell a different story from the list, and this is why the EC really negates the idea of one citizen/one vote.

But getting rid of the Senate would only make gerrymandering worse, I fear, because the House would be the all important election and given the districting powers vested in the states, each state would become an even more hotly contested battleground than they are now.

I'll never forget how as a young person visiting the US I was banned from having a glass of beer or wine in a restaurant and the law seemed to be strictly policed, yet someone the same age as me could readily go out and buy a gun in Walmart. The laws are crazy.

It's a beautiful country. Half my family live there. Yet I'm so glad my parents opted for Europe rather than the US. Gun laws, death penalty (abhorrent) and the obsession with restricting abortion mean I never want to live there.

Ted Cruz and his comments gave me the rage. Fight guns with guns. Same old same old. What an imbecile.
On the contrary, the statements from Senator Begs and even Biden were emotional and brought me to tears.
The country is such a divided mess.

When a 9-year-old learning to use an Uzi at the hideously-names Bullets and Burgers shot her instructor by mistake, there were attempts in a couple of states to change the laws. They seem to have failed.

www.nytimes.com/2015/08/23/us/year-after-death-business-as-usual-at-gun-range.html

That would be Senator Murphy..

NO chance on any action

So, they'll kill the teachers first...

that's a well thought out plan 🤦🏻‍♀️

How about just 'no'. No longer a right to bear arms.

This is heartbreaking. Absolutely horrific!

I've never forgotten that young lass, I remember accidentally watching a few seconds of the footage.
Too young to be having to deal with the aftermath.
@BadLad

Just been reading about this absolutely awful, I cannot get my heard around the 'right to bear arms'.

He was 18 ffs

The teacher who died, her husband trained children in what to do if a shooter came into the school. Can't get my head around that either.

So many things to blame but ultimately I think it lies with the right to bear arms, no one has that right. The victims also had a right to be safe, but clearly that's not as important.

@HelloSpringIveMissedYou
Unfortunately many Americans misu stand the origins of "The right to bear arms"
Either on purpose or down to pure utter ignorance.
It's just horrendous

What is the aibu here? Otherwise, this thread is just a 'stating the bleedin' obvious' one

Reading comments on Facebook from a celeb who said the law needs changing. This was one of the comments.

' like I said I'm not going to argue with a Democrat. I've learned when someone has different views they are always at fault no matter how much they express their opinion. And for the record I don't support violent conflicts. If something was going to be done about gun control it would have happened at some point. Guns don't kill people, people kill people. Maybe if the government looks more at the person instead of the guns they could make a change. Stop making it so easy for people to buy one. No one seemed to worry about gun control whenever BLM was burning down cities carrying their guns. I own a few that I hunt deer with and I have a hand gun that I keep in my purse. I was in the army and I have a permit for my weapon. I have the right to bare arms to protect myself. Just because other people have mental health issues or are just angry people and can't handle guns doesn't mean I should have to give up mine. Period.'

Hmm, it's in chat.

Well put!

Jim Jefferies summed it up perfectly 7 years ago and everything he said in a very sweary way still stands today.

The awful thing is that their only solution thus far is to do gun drills and train kids and teachers what to do if when there's a shooting in their school. Its the norm, and utterly bizarre to me.

There's something very backward about a world power letting kids die purely because they don't want to give up a poorly worded part of a constitution drawn up centuries ago that actually doesn't mean what they now think it means.

So true. The people frothing about women ‘slaughtering children’ having abortions are exactly the same people defending the right to own a gun even though it leads to this.

Tinkerblonde1 and there we have the same old block to gun reform. Nothing will be done until the US stops fetishising the constitution.

The legal argument that is helping to overturn Roe v Wade is around the fact that abortion isn't mentioned in the constitution. It's nuts that everything seems to hinge on a centuries old document, but there it is.

It's incredibly sad that it's almost always children or young people who die in these incidents, but I can't bring myself to care too much about the US as a whole because they don't care enough. By worshipping the constitution they've dug themselves a hole that they can't get out of

That Jim Jeffries clip is brilliant.

Why is the solution offered always more guns? An adult with a gun in every primary school classroom??

How can you possibly think that will reduce school shootings?

just so awful

We used to do bomb drills when I was at school (1970s, school next to army barracks). I.remember finding the i