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I was the recipient of unwanted advice from a random man today.

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Pollydonia · 22/05/2022 20:32

..and actually remembered to say " thanks Random Man !" He just looked confused but another woman near by burst out laughing.
It was in the gym, I was doing my own thing , he tried to tell me to do it " his" way .
Seriously though, I'm 49 so I'm less likely to be intimidated by shit like this. I've also emailed the gym as a heads up .

OP posts:
butterpuffed · 23/05/2022 08:20

ssd · 23/05/2022 07:15

Jesus who'd be a man eh?
I was in tesco last week and i noticed a man looking a nappies for ages, i said do you need a hand, he said yes, 20 second conversation and that was that.
Little did i realise i probably totally offended him and he would have been posting online about this random woman giving him advice. Or calling me a sex pest and most men posting agreeing with him and telling me to fuck off.

Honestly, some folk here need a word with themselves.

Expect a call from Tesco soon about an email they've received..😆

Pollydonia · 23/05/2022 08:20

Intrigueddotcom · 23/05/2022 07:54

Out of interest op
what nationality was he?

Strong cockney accent so I'm going with British.

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BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 23/05/2022 08:20

GentlemanJay · 22/05/2022 23:00

This bloke is obviously a sex pest. Needs locking up!

Men in the gym don't approach random other men in the gym, lean on their equipment and give then unsolicited advice.

Women don't do it to men or women.

It's only ever Men to Women. That's why its a thing. It may be unconscious, it may also be so ingrained in us that other women don't get it.

But it is a thing. That needs to stop.

ssd · 23/05/2022 08:21

GreyCarpet · 23/05/2022 08:15

Would it have bothered you so much op if female? And would you have started a thread?

That's the thing, women don't tend to do it and, on the rare occasions they might, they do it differently.

Man - dominates the space by leaning on the equipment amd just tells you - display of male entitlement.

Woman - excuse me, I noticed you doing X, I was always told Y. Might not he relevant but thought I'd share.

Same as...

Man - smile, love

Woman - is everything OK..? Yes, I'm fine thanks. Are you sure? Yes, but thank you for asking

(I've experienced both of the above).

And men generally don't go around offering otheren this sort of unsolicited advice because they know how another man would react - Fuck off, mate. They expect women to be appreciative and grateful.

Oh FFS

Im sick of the man hating on here. Of course theres loads of arsehole men out there but theres loads of arsehole women too.

LaBellina · 23/05/2022 08:25

Good job op. Ignore the minimizers here. The gym clearly has this rule for a reason, women need to be sure that they can work out without being harassed by a strange man who finds some random excuse to get too close into their personal space, trying to force them into an unwanted conversation.

LaBellina · 23/05/2022 08:25

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 23/05/2022 08:20

Men in the gym don't approach random other men in the gym, lean on their equipment and give then unsolicited advice.

Women don't do it to men or women.

It's only ever Men to Women. That's why its a thing. It may be unconscious, it may also be so ingrained in us that other women don't get it.

But it is a thing. That needs to stop.

Exactly.

TangoWhiskyAlphaTango · 23/05/2022 08:27

ssd · 23/05/2022 08:03

I'll need to keep an ear out for women using the expression "random man"

And avoid them like the plague

I am sure they won't be missing out.

ssd · 23/05/2022 08:28

butterpuffed · 23/05/2022 08:20

Expect a call from Tesco soon about an email they've received..😆

Grin

I did worse than that years ago in H&M, buying ds school trousers. I noticed a young male assistant fixing the trousers and tidying the rail up so i asked him if they were ok for a 16 yr old, like trendy enough...then i asked if they washed well and if i could return them if they didn't fit....he said i don't know i don't work here...

Hrpuffnstuff1 · 23/05/2022 08:29

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 23/05/2022 08:20

Men in the gym don't approach random other men in the gym, lean on their equipment and give then unsolicited advice.

Women don't do it to men or women.

It's only ever Men to Women. That's why its a thing. It may be unconscious, it may also be so ingrained in us that other women don't get it.

But it is a thing. That needs to stop.

No, men just get into arguments over time and the use of equipment. I know I used to work in a gym. Some users can get mightily pissed with equipment hoggers and those who don't tidy up after themselves.
In this case, the chap should not be giving out unsolicited training advice, it could be dangerous.

Pollydonia · 23/05/2022 08:30

I started a thread because I wanted to.
I gave the info in the op that was relevant, I'm not changing the story because it isnt a story, it's what happened in more detail.
For all those who think that I was overreacting emailing the gym , Its their policy , please read the posts.
I dont hate men, I'm married to one and have given birth to one.

OP posts:
KarenLovesRosario · 23/05/2022 08:30

Pollydonia · 23/05/2022 08:20

Strong cockney accent so I'm going with British.

😂😂😂😂

Why2why · 23/05/2022 08:31

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 23/05/2022 08:20

Men in the gym don't approach random other men in the gym, lean on their equipment and give then unsolicited advice.

Women don't do it to men or women.

It's only ever Men to Women. That's why its a thing. It may be unconscious, it may also be so ingrained in us that other women don't get it.

But it is a thing. That needs to stop.

Men do it to men all the time. It’s just human beings being social without a motive of sexually assaulting each other. Imagine living in a world where everyone is afraid to interact with others for fear of being labelled some nuisance or sex pest.

If you don’t appreciate the advice, just say so and move on.

What next, if a random man smiles at you, you’ll be emailing the local council?

There are a lot of men out there looking to harm women at any opportunity they get. If we see every man as a danger, then we will reduce our chances of discerning real danger.

Johnnysgirl · 23/05/2022 08:32

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KarenLovesRosario · 23/05/2022 08:33

Wow, this post sure has brought all the mysogynists to the yard..

AuntMargo · 23/05/2022 08:34

God you sound the bigger dick ! Maybe he was just trying to be helpful ! Why did you have to be rude, why not just say thanks, but I have my program and then ignore him.

LaBellina · 23/05/2022 08:35

Most decent people thankfully understand that not wanting to be harassed by some strange man in a gym with no staff around to step on doesn’t mean you’re a man hater @Pollydonia I would say that’s it’s rather the opposite. It’s quite misogynistic to say that you should just accept it.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 23/05/2022 08:35

HopeIsNotAStrategy · 23/05/2022 07:04

Well done. I wish I'd had your presence of mind on a recent flight. I was near completing a pretty difficult sudoku after half an hour or so, when a random male finger hove into view and attempted to start putting in the final few figures ( wrongly, as it happens). I snatched my ipad away and stabbed in the correct figures crossly. 😡

The bloke next to me was "bored" and apparently I was supposed to entertain him.

My word. I am not a gym user but this has made me very cross indeed on your behalf, @HopeIsNotAStrategy! Anybody stupid enough to try to finish my sudoku for me would be lucky to get out alive.

sammylady37 · 23/05/2022 08:35

I’m taken aback at how many people think this man’s behaviour was ok. He had no knowledge of your ability level, your mobility issues, your medical history, whether what you were doing was part of a programme developed specifically for you by professionals who had all the relevant information, and yet he chose to disturb you, interrupt your workout and tell you what to do with no understanding that this was potentially unsafe and entirely unwanted.
Fair play to you for not engaging with him on the topic or appeasing him. Hopefully he has learned a lesson and won’t approach other strangers in such a manner again (though I doubt it. Reflection and learning don’t go hand in hand with this type of behaviour, sadly)

LaBellina · 23/05/2022 08:35

Step in not step on

Pollydonia · 23/05/2022 08:36

It is interesting that different experiences of MN users gives them such a range of views. Maybe because I'm older I'm less likely to ignor or accept behaviour like this.

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onelittlefrog · 23/05/2022 08:37

Why2why · 23/05/2022 08:31

Men do it to men all the time. It’s just human beings being social without a motive of sexually assaulting each other. Imagine living in a world where everyone is afraid to interact with others for fear of being labelled some nuisance or sex pest.

If you don’t appreciate the advice, just say so and move on.

What next, if a random man smiles at you, you’ll be emailing the local council?

There are a lot of men out there looking to harm women at any opportunity they get. If we see every man as a danger, then we will reduce our chances of discerning real danger.

@Why2why Yup, humans are social creatures and I don't think anyone is saying it's not OK to have a polite conversation with a stranger.

This is about the way in which he did it, and the context (a gym is a space where women may actually feel a bit vulnerable as it is, working up a sweat and doing physical things with your body). He went over to her and leaned on the machine, whilst she was exercising. He told her she wasn't working hard enough (recommended she increased the weight).

This is actually pretty intimidating behaviour from a man towards a women.

If he'd genuinely just wanted to give friendly advice, he could have waited until she was off the machine for one thing, and then asked her if she wanted any help.

The way he did it was very forward and shows a real lack of self awareness in how that might make a lone woman feel.

He probably didn't mean it that way (consciously at least) and probably just has a complete lack of insight/ awareness of his own behaviour.

Raising that with the gym is still a good step because if he's doing it regularly they can have a word.

MzHz · 23/05/2022 08:39

I’ve got legs that could kick start a jumbo jet… 120kg is a LOT!

this bloke is a right twat! All those who are trying to make out that this op is ridiculous really do need to give some thought to why this wouldn’t be something Random Man would say to anyone other than a lone female.

GregBrawlsInDogJail · 23/05/2022 08:40

Random Men are a plague in gyms, to any woman who does anything with a weight. The second you touch a weight plate, Random Man appears, keen to critique the weight you're using, your technique, your stance, the expression on your face.

Men may fight over gym equipment, but they don't offer unsolicited critiques of other men's techniques, because they know fine and rightly it'll get them clocked in the face.

Mysisterlivesinbicester · 23/05/2022 08:40

@MrsTerryPratchett

There's another scenario:

Random Man: something random

Woman, politely but with no interest: "thanks."

Woman turns away and gets on with what she was previously doing.

Man walks away.

Not everything is a big deal, and not every random man is a complete dick.

butterpuffed · 23/05/2022 08:41

ssd · 23/05/2022 08:28

Grin

I did worse than that years ago in H&M, buying ds school trousers. I noticed a young male assistant fixing the trousers and tidying the rail up so i asked him if they were ok for a 16 yr old, like trendy enough...then i asked if they washed well and if i could return them if they didn't fit....he said i don't know i don't work here...

😅😅