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Is my neighbour subletting, or has she done a genuine house swap?

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Lilyvioletrose · 22/05/2022 10:25

I live in a LA area, have done for some years. Most of the houses are bought, as the area is nice, peaceful, and the houses and gardens are a great size.
I’ve never seen any trouble on my quiet cul de sac, until new tenants moved in to one of the houses opposite us about six months ago.
Two men, a woman, two teenagers and a couple of kids live there now.

I’m the type to ‘live and let live’ but these tenants are often rowdy, there’s always someone making a racket (which I can put up with) with people coming and going and revving their cars up late at night. But when the adults are literally fighting with each other and arguing in the street at 3 am (as they were the other night) and not giving a shit that they’re waking the neighbours up, I just wish they’d leave.

Before the neighbours moved in there was a woman living there with her three kids. However, she moved out of the house about five years ago to live with her new partner, taking her youngest dd with her. Her eldest dc’s (her two dd’s aged about 18 and 21 at the time their mum moved out) continued to live on in the house. Both eventually had boyfriends moving in with them.

Fast forward to around six months ago, the young women suddenly moved out with their boyfriends, and within hours a new family were unloading a removal van and had moved into the house.
(As the house is still a council house, I was firstly surprised that the original tenant had been able to move out and allow her grown up daughters to live there, but presumed that she felt her relationship may not work out and would need to move back in with her youngest dc)

I was also surprised that when the eldest dd’s moved out more recently, new tenants were moved in immediately. I’d always assumed that the council would go in and clear a property before the next tenants were given a key to the house. But this house still has the original tenants curtains up at the windows, and I believe the tenants are either friends or family of the previous ones as I saw the dd’s talking with them on the day they left.

My point is, how would I know whether the previous tenant has sub letted the property or simply swapped houses with the new tenants?

If she has sub letted (which I believe is most likely) I would report it. Although I don’t want to cause problems for people who’ve done a genuine swap, even if they are a pain in the arse to live near!
For the record, the house is a three bedroom.

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Lilyvioletrose · 26/05/2022 06:09

Cheshiresun · 25/05/2022 11:45

Definitely tell the Council, they could be depriving someone of a local authority house. No wonder there is a lack of council housing for genuine people and families needing one! If it's all above board, then so be it, so no harm done.

Sounds like a "Man about the House" situation - George Roper a subletting Landlord 😂before my time but I have seen it.

That’s the other annoying thing, aside from them being arsehole neighbours, why should they jump the queue ahead of people waiting years on the council list! If that’s what they’ve done of course.

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Lilyvioletrose · 26/05/2022 06:17

CellophaneFlower · 25/05/2022 14:00

By committed, do you mean calling the council and demanding they break confidentiality, or visiting each suspect and sticking hot pins down their fingernails till they confess? 🤔

OP you are definitely over thinking this, hope you reported.

GirlCrush seems to only like writing goady posts and nothing more.

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ItWasntMyFault · 26/05/2022 06:47

It could easily be a house swap as you are allowed to go up or down one room on normal rules under the mutual exchange roles.

Subletting is only allowed if it's the still the tenants main home and they are only letting out a room.
I would report the noise nuisance and tell the LA that it's been going on since the new tenants moved in x months ago and then let them sort it.

Lilyvioletrose · 26/05/2022 15:16

ItWasntMyFault · 26/05/2022 06:47

It could easily be a house swap as you are allowed to go up or down one room on normal rules under the mutual exchange roles.

Subletting is only allowed if it's the still the tenants main home and they are only letting out a room.
I would report the noise nuisance and tell the LA that it's been going on since the new tenants moved in x months ago and then let them sort it.

It’s definitely not the old tenants main home as she left ages ago. It could be a house swap but I’m doubtful that it is.

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GodspeedJune · 26/05/2022 15:51

Please do report this OP. Is the property owned by the council or a housing association? If the latter, report to both the HA and the council.

This should be passed on to both the teams who deal with tenancy fraud, and those who manage ASB.

Don’t tie yourself in knots worrying about the online form, just pick up the phone and you’ll be passed on to the right department. You can make a report anonymously, but it’s more helpful if you leave a number incase more information is needed. They definitely won’t pass this on to the people concerned.

Lilyvioletrose · 26/05/2022 22:19

GodspeedJune · 26/05/2022 15:51

Please do report this OP. Is the property owned by the council or a housing association? If the latter, report to both the HA and the council.

This should be passed on to both the teams who deal with tenancy fraud, and those who manage ASB.

Don’t tie yourself in knots worrying about the online form, just pick up the phone and you’ll be passed on to the right department. You can make a report anonymously, but it’s more helpful if you leave a number incase more information is needed. They definitely won’t pass this on to the people concerned.

It’s definitely council, thanks I will report it.

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