Ukraine Invasion: Part 23

[MagicFox]

Welcome all, thanks for the company

Targus thanks.

But will they let it get that devestating.

Yes, Russia is blaming Ukraine for Internet blackout. They are saying it demonstrates that Ukraine doesn't care about Kherson anymore and has abandoned its people. How predictable 🙄

Same. I see [at]Osint88 commending his creative writing skills - and retweeting a lot of people who think similarly. I’m taking Canadian Volunteer’s thread with a bucket of salt.

⚡️Mariupol mayor: Russian military killed twice as many residents as Nazi Germany.

Vadym Boychenko said that in 2 years of Mariupol’s occupation during World War II, the Nazis killed 10,000 people. Russians have doubled the number of victims in 2 months of the Mariupol siege.

😢 these numbers are horrific. Good news about the 20 rescued from the steel plant, let's hope that continues 🙏

Does anybody know what the deal is with the 'Freedom of Russia Legion'? Are they Russians already in ukraine or defectors? I can't figure it out

My understanding is the latter.

That's fantastic if so

Metro - Freedom of Russia Legion

says a lot about how the Ukrainians were treating them that some are ex POWs

@Igotjelly · 01/05/2022 10:23

MagicFox
“Does anybody know what the deal is with the 'Freedom of Russia Legion'? Are they Russians already in ukraine or defectors? I can't figure it out”

My understanding is the latter.

How interesting. I just found this explanation below:

What is the Freedom For Russia Legion? | 5 Minute History - YouTube

m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1ftFZnyYEw

Pelvis speaking just now following her visit. Seems quite hopeful, the focus being on rebuilding Ukraine.

Fuck sakes Pelosi that should read

@Igotjelly

crossed post.

The worry would be they could be spies, but on the face of it it does seem to give hope that it exists.

Could it be an on-line hoax though to disturb Russia? Or is there clear evidence of this battalion’s existence?

Britain and Germany had very different policies regarding their relationship with Putin's Russia.
Britain were shameless in their acquisition of Oligarch wealth, whilst ignoring the corrupt origins of that wealth. But it has proved easy to implement a U turn, and sanction said Oligarchs and their wealth, at little cost.

Germany, in the pursuit of close relations with Putin's Russia, followed through on trade deals, eventually relying on Russia for 70% of their gas supply.
Britain takes 3% of their gas from Russia.

With the development of Nordstream 2, the US repeatedly asked Germany not to complete the project foreseeing the problem of Germany, being a major economic power in Europe, from becoming too reliant on Russia for their energy needs.

Neither Britain nor Germany can claim the moral high ground regarding their dealings with Russia, but, much as I am no fan of Johnson, I give him credit for recognising early on the need to support the Ukraine militarily with training and supply of weapons.

The need now is for the West to remain united in their dealings with both Russia and China, and to recognise that both countries constitute a very real threat to our way of life.

the US repeatedly asked Germany not to complete the project foreseeing the problem of Germany, being a major economic power in Europe, from becoming too reliant on Russia for their energy needs.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but on this one Trump was right, along with saying that countries actually needed to pay their dues into NATO.

(Ouch, that hurt)

Guess it’s an example of a broken (wankery) clock being right twice a day….

Pelvis

Guess it’s an example of a broken (wankery) clock being right twice a day….

That's putting it politely....Trump was right to point out some members weren't pulling their weight but in general he sure as hell didn't appear to be at all keen on the alliance...

Honestly between dropping boobs and pelvis’ visiting Kyiv think my autocorrect is hellbent on lightening the mood 😂

Wikipedia seems to think that yesterday's report of another killed general Andrei Simonov is reliable and there are unconfirmed reports of yet another general dead ... !

The young officers must be getting promoted at a much faster rate than they were expecting 3 months ago.

😄 Me too.

Can be hard to know what's what though, with so many people desperate for some hope. Still, think i'll file it under "some people on the internet may not be what they seem..."

And keeping my fingers crossed that the salt is useful for those plutonium chips too.

If this is true then brilliant. I previously asked what mechanisms were in place for russian soldiers to defect in the hopes this sort of thing existed!

Although I have to say, I don't know how well equipped Ukrainian soldiers are. There is relatively poor provision in the south which is galling given how full the military surplus shops are here with issued but unused kit.

Pmk

I have mixed feelings about the evacuation from Azovstal. The civilians are being taken to Donetsk for processing by Russian-sympathisers (who might be just plain old Russians). The fact that Russia has agreed to this probably means their plans for the soldiers left behind are very bad. They've been torturing and murdering anyone associated with Azov even if they have surrendered and even if they are now a civilian.

⚡️Another 40 civilians, including 8 children, have been evacuated from the Azovstal plant in Mariupol - Meduza - Live reports

Esma's Post has worried me though and yes, what about the troops?