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Karen

273 replies

strawberrydaquiari · 12/04/2022 15:14

The use of Karen as an insult isn't going away is it?
I'm fed up. I feel silenced. I can't stand up to the insult without being accused of acting "like one" and being shut down.
It's everywhere and I hate it.

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SausagePourHomme · 15/04/2022 22:02

"Having said that I do think Karen has been completely misused and has changed from its original intent"

it's original intent is as a name that people gave to their female children.

Someone on reddit decided to make it something horrific and people like you went along with it.

DrSbaitso · 15/04/2022 22:17

"It's always such a shame when people get their misogynistic terms wrong. Nobody knows how to hate women these days. It's a dying art!"

Ereshkigalangcleg · 15/04/2022 22:33

Having said that I do think Karen has been completely misused and has changed from its original intent.

Oh you mean the incel on reddit who started a movement to hate assertive middle-aged women like his pretend ex-wife? No, I don't think it has changed much.

yellowsuninthesky · 21/04/2022 21:50

VladmirsPoutine · 15/04/2022 17:34

My position on it has always been if the shoe doesn't fit don't wear it. In other words don't behave like one and there'll be nothing to be offended by.

There is something to be offended by when you are a woman of a certain age. I am not called Karen, but many women of my age are. Consider how annoying it must be to have your name misused all the time.

yellowsuninthesky · 21/04/2022 21:54

Half of you have been called a cunt this week by your kids and husband but you’re outraged by Karen. The amount of threads in here about your husbands and partners calling you a bitch.. but Karen is as bad.. what

erm no, that hasn't happened to me. I am married to someone decent, who wouldn't dream of using the c word in my earshot (or at all) and he definitely wouldn't call me or anyone else a bitch.

Goldijobsandthe3bears · 21/04/2022 21:58

I’ve never used it or had it used against me, but the people on those videos labelled ‘Karen’s in the wild’ etc are definitely not people standing up for themselves, no way! And some of them are men.

Goldijobsandthe3bears · 21/04/2022 22:00

I don’t know anyone whose kids or husband would call them a c u next Tuesday

Hawkins001 · 21/04/2022 22:00

strawberrydaquiari · 12/04/2022 15:14

The use of Karen as an insult isn't going away is it?
I'm fed up. I feel silenced. I can't stand up to the insult without being accused of acting "like one" and being shut down.
It's everywhere and I hate it.

After seeing it prevalent on YouTube, I'm not sure how it became the usage it's become.

ImissChametz · 21/04/2022 22:49

Its interesting that the women who have been called Karens in this thread have been "telling someone off" in one way or another.

Whether its kids in the park, a colleague who is photocopying etc.

I work in a school and if the photocopier has papers on it. I just put them to one side and use the machine. Such a palaver over nothing.

Its not about being silenced- its the constant moaning and griping over issues. Why some women feel the need to "tell" other people off or voice their opinion when no one cares. Just mind your own business.

SausagePourHomme · 22/04/2022 16:47

ImissChametz · 21/04/2022 22:49

Its interesting that the women who have been called Karens in this thread have been "telling someone off" in one way or another.

Whether its kids in the park, a colleague who is photocopying etc.

I work in a school and if the photocopier has papers on it. I just put them to one side and use the machine. Such a palaver over nothing.

Its not about being silenced- its the constant moaning and griping over issues. Why some women feel the need to "tell" other people off or voice their opinion when no one cares. Just mind your own business.

Have you ever heard of irony?

JustAnotherPoster00 · 22/04/2022 17:42

SausagePourHomme · 22/04/2022 16:47

Have you ever heard of irony?

Shes not wrong though

Princetopple · 22/04/2022 19:54

Not sure if I'm the person you're referring to when you mention telling off kids at the park but it's a really odd way of interpreting the incident I described.

If a situation where my child could have been injured is one where you think I should mind my own business, then I can't really think of a situation which would ever be my business. A can being thrown into your face could easily knock out teeth/break a nose/give you a black eye. Keeping your kids safe from harm is the bare minimum in terms of parenting. We were perfectly happy minding our own business until somebody else's business nearly collided with my son's face! As the adult in the situation, I think it's completely appropriate for me to tell a bunch of kids to stop doing something dangerous.

It blows my mind that that is seen as unusual. Are there really many parents around who would brush that off? And wouldn't they feel ashamed that they didn't stand up for their child? I don't want my son to think that people can behave as badly towards you as they like and you just have to meekly accept it.

I was in a pretty nice area when this happened. It wouldn't be unusual for a dad to threaten to smash your head in if it had happened where I live. I dread to think how those poor kids would have coped faced with that if my mild disapproval is too much

ImissChametz · 22/04/2022 21:37

FrightorFlight · 12/04/2022 22:41
I got called a 'stupid fucking Karen' on the park last week by a bunch of ten year olds after I asked them to watch their language around the little ones.

@Princetopple I was thinking more of the above post.

I just think that times have changed now and those days of telliing off other people's kids have gone. I cant imagine going up to some kids and telling them to watch their language because of my kids.

surreygirl1987 · 23/04/2022 22:44

I cant imagine going up to some kids and telling them to watch their language because of my kids.

Seriously? Why in the world not?!

ImissChametz · 24/04/2022 01:45

@surreygirl1987 because its not my job to discipline and teach manners to someone else's child.
I wouldn't reprimand an adult either for swearing. I dont swear myself- never have but its none of my business if someone else chooses to.

LondonQueen · 24/04/2022 01:50

I got called a Karen by a child in my class, a Y2!

TooBigForMyBoots · 24/04/2022 01:56

OMG, you're all so uncool.😎 Karen is soooooo old and only used ironically by the kids round these parts.

Pickabearanybear · 24/04/2022 02:02

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Deathraystare · 24/04/2022 07:25

A lot of the ones on you tube are not being assertive women or men. They are unhinged! Yes I must admit it must be upsetting for anyone called Karen. I would love to see a Karen wear a t shirt saying "My name is Karen and I don't give a shit!"

SausagePourHomme · 25/04/2022 07:45

JustAnotherPoster00 · 22/04/2022 17:42

Shes not wrong though

What a cogent and well constructed argument. Almost swiftian in it"s wit. You must surely have studied logical deconstruction under bertrand russell. Do you spend your days reading comments on facebook and then commenting, "this" under the rants you agree with?

JustAnotherPoster00 · 25/04/2022 08:41

SausagePourHomme · 25/04/2022 07:45

What a cogent and well constructed argument. Almost swiftian in it"s wit. You must surely have studied logical deconstruction under bertrand russell. Do you spend your days reading comments on facebook and then commenting, "this" under the rants you agree with?

Its adorable you think you did something there, bless 🙄

SausagePourHomme · 25/04/2022 09:04

JustAnotherPoster00 · 25/04/2022 08:41

Its adorable you think you did something there, bless 🙄

Treating us to more bon mots

Go back to your take a break crossword

reesewithoutaspoon · 25/04/2022 09:28

It's not the name it's the usage. It could be any name they chose. It was originally used to describe unreasonable behaviour but now Is used for any woman who dares to object. It's a way to shut up and silence women for fear of being labelled a Karen.
Being treated badly? don't you dare stand up for yourself because then you're a Karen? that's the usage I object to and the fact that I object to it makes me a Karen in some people's eyes. It's an effective way of making women shut up and accept any shit thrown their way. It's no different than "shouldn't you be in the kitchen making me a sandwich" just easier to roll off the tongue.
By all means call out unreasonable behaviour but do we really need more ways of telling women, particularly older women to shut up because their voice has no value.

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