Blimey I feel old, Brooklyn Beckham is getting married

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I just read that Brooklyn Beckham is getting married. I thought he would be about 15 years old, no he's 23 😁

I think the armed forces often works for the offspring of celebrities/Royal families etc. The rules, the structure, the lack of deference. Of course said offspring have to want to join up!

@Roselilly36

He’s a footballer, plays for Inter Miami, his fiancée is very wealthy in her own right, I don’t think he’s too young. Good luck to them.

It's Romeo who plays for Inter Miami. Brooklyn doesn't do much at all.

Having said that, I don’t understand how, with the best educations money can buy, and they went to some good schools, they haven’t been encouraged into non celeb careers. University and then law / accountancy / banking anything really where they could work professionally and where they could be successful

You have to be clever to forge a decent career in law, accountancy and banking.

he isn't interested in politics which could be a potential career

You also have to be clever to forge a successful career in politics. Can you see Brooklyn at hustings, or on Question Time? No, nor can I.

In any event, why would the not particularly academic or interesting son of a footballer be a shoo-in for a career in politics? What’s he got to offer?

@65honeybee

People who know the Beckhams say they're a lovely family, they seem genuinely happy together and the children are well brought up. Which may well be true, but strikes me as being at odds with the way the kids have been thrust into the media from an age when they cannot consent to it.

Brand Beckham is what it's all about.

However nice the parents may be, I fundamentally disagree with how they've paraded their kids like this. Other celebrity couples don't do this with their children; some are strictly private and respect their children's rights; others are somewhere in the middle and might do the occasional photo shoot but I can't think of any other celeb family who do what the Beckhams have done.

The kids live a life of luxury but it must be nigh on impossible for them to feel they have any identity as individuals or direction in life which comes from themselves.

Agree with this. Victoria is pretty savvy but her fashion brand is a vanity project and she's not a designer, she's the face of it.

A lot of people criticise Kate Moss for her lifestyle but she's grafted as a model, on her own no "brand" and she's kept her daughter well out of the limelight and been very private throughout. It's only now she's older Lila is choosing to appear on camera herself. Far more decorum IMHO!

@Frenziedandfurious exactly.

VB seems to have an understanding of how business works, and how to promote herself (I think her family background is one of self-made success in business so perhaps that influenced her.) But she doesn't strike me as having a creative talent, more a case of being savvy.

DB seems the opposite- great talent as a footballer but I doubt he's the driving force with Brand Beckham!

The kids come across as nice but pretty unexceptional, and it's really unfair imo that they've been forced into being part of the brand and splashed across the media before an age when they could reasonably consent. The only life Brooklyn really understands is one of constant self promotion, flitting from photography to cooking etc and posting about it. I do feel sorry for the kids.

yes, Lila has been part of the wider circle we know and to all intents and purposes has had a very normal childhood and teenage experience with her school friends doing the ordinary things teenagers do. If she's more in the spotlight now, and to be fair, she barely is, I imagine it's off her own back and her mum seems to have done a good job keeping her childhood private.

I'd hate to be a celebrity's kid.

I write, and am trying to get published, and it's a real drag. I have to use free time from my paid job. I have to promote myself on Twitter. I have to scrimp and save to invest in editing services etc. I'm objectively better looking than Brooklyn (which says more about his looks than mine), but I can't try out modeling to make a quick buck and raise my profile. I'm not a chef, I have to cook to feed myself.

But the praise and success I get is all mine.

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If I was a mega rich celebrity I think I would have serious doubts about having children (I think Ricky Gervais said this too). You have to guard their privacy completely and never talk about them, I just can't understand why the Beckhams have pushed their kids into the spotlight when so many celebs have successfully kept their children more sheltered.

Brooklyn has had so many advantages - a book deal, an apprenticeship with Rankin which he walked away from plus he went to some prestigious art school in New York which he left. Maybe his calling is as a rich house husband.

If I were Nicola's family I would be unhappy about her marrying a waster like him.

RoseLilly he is not a footballer, he tried it but it did not work, the other son plays football I think for the dad's club but he is not so good at it either. The woman who he is marrying her dad is a billionaire. I do hope he is happy as very difficult growing up in the public eye and they didn't have a choice of this as kids but you never hear of any of their children in trouble and that is a good thing as many celeb kids always read about them up to all sorts of no good.

I think he will find his way and he will find something that really interests him and he is only 23 and seems like a quiet young lad and never in any bother. The parent's should have kept them out of the limelight though as not fair on the children as everyone knows their faces now. I also remember when he was born how time flies.

I have no clue who the children of many famous celebs are and certainly wouldn't know what they look like. But the Beckhams have put their kids in the public arena as part of the brand; they plaster photos and videos of their lives all over social media. It's so unfair. It's exposed them to ridicule, as in that terrible photo book, plus didn't one of the kids release a pop song some years ago which was also an embarrassment. Being a responsible parent means protecting your kids whereas they've done the opposite.

I suppose it all comes down to them wanting to keep themselves in the public eye... the only real talent in the family was DB as a footballer and when he retired they needed a reason to keep in the spotlight. Sad for the kids though. They could have had a relatively normal albeit privileged upbringing where they could make mistakes and find their way without being laid open to criticism and ridicule. They seem basically decent kids and shouldn't have been used like this

Victoria was more famous and richer than David when they got together. I think it's poor to say only DB had talent as though he's the only one with any worth. A huge part of the Spice Girls success was down to their personalities and them having their own ideas about what direction to take.

@WeAreTheHeroes I didn't mean DB is the only one with any worth. I think VB has a good eye for business and what's marketable; she's clearly not stupid, in fact she comes across as being a lot more savvy than her husband

My point is that he was the one with an innate talent; whatever else you may think of him he was a damn good footballer. Whereas VB by her own admission can't sing well; yes she got very famous as part of a group but that was all about her determination, slogging away at theatre school and auditioning for a band, rather than creative talent. Likewise with her fashion label; by all accounts she works very hard and is driven (which are positive qualities) but it's more about that than innate talent. I don't doubt she's hugely interested in fashion but it'll be a team of designers and she's the figurehead.

I actually think a lot of her skills and qualities are quite admirable- the hard graft and determination - which makes it even stranger imo that they've treated their kids like this. She seems to have come from a strong family with sound values and they seem to raise their own kids to be decent people so why on Earth expose them like this

Nicola has had extensive work on her face with a jaw reduction, brow lift and nose job and lip fillers etc to look the way she does now.

She does look very pretty but it’s such a drastic change I wonder if she worries about having children as they may resemble her old features.

What I mean is, VB seems to be quite self aware: she's able to laugh at herself as a 'pop star' and be quite open about the fact she can't sing, she knows she got there though sheer determination (and of course luck!)

But it's not the same for the children; they aren't able to laugh at themselves for getting a book published despite being crap at photography. They've been opened up to ridicule. It seems strange that the two parents who know what life in the public eye is like have thrust their children into the public arena and encouraged them to do things like the photo book and releasing a pop song when surely they know that there's no talent there and the kids end up looking ridiculous

My son got married at 19
It did not last

@ElenaSt

Nicola has had extensive work on her face with a jaw reduction, brow lift and nose job and lip fillers etc to look the way she does now.

She does look very pretty but it’s such a drastic change I wonder if she worries about having children as they may resemble her old features.

A jaw reduction. That sounds pretty major. Do they break the jaw to do that?

I think in her case, the jaw has been considerably shaved to reduce the length and width.

I do feel sorry for the kids

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I love Harper though she just looks like a child getting on with it and I really like that she is am I allowed to say? Tom boyish. I really thought Victoria would have her dressed as a little Dolly.

We got together when I was 21 and he was 18. Got married when I was 40 and him 37 🤣

I think Bob geldof has said he won't be leaving his estate to his children (or his whole estate) i know Fifi has a full time job in PR and lives in a flat, she doesn't court the media at all. I used to be friends with her on Insta and we have a mutual friend, for Xmas and birthdays Bob gives the girls around £300 of vouchers, which is less than a lot of mumsnetters and non multimillionares.

I can see the appeal to BB in celebrity circles - he seems guileless and happy and interested in the world, they move in circles where a lot of people are ambitious and cynical, it's probably quite refreshing.

I think the Beckhams have probably been fairly circumspect with the exposure, given how many offers and how much attention they could have had. They've kept a balance between the celebrity persona and their real life. Someone offered Brooklyn money for a photography book, that's on them, they have clearly supported him through the ridicule, disappointment and reality check he received well. A lot of us make mistakes at 18, I doubt many of us would listen to our parents if they told us not to take easy money that was offered.

In my DDs class, there are two uninteresting children who have parents who think they will be famous Youtubers when they grow up, countless parents encourage their tone deaf offspring onto TV singing competitions. They didn't do this, they just let him make his own mistakes and supported him sensibly when it didn't work out.

I wonder if there'll be any thrones at the wedding?