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Car's been stolen- I know where it is!

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SalomeNotThatOne · 31/03/2022 16:28

Just wondered if anyone had been through this?

My car's been nicked. I have a tracker in it and located it at an address about half an hour away. I drove round and it's there!

Tried to start it but I wouldn't recognise my electronic key.

Reported it to 101 but they have said that there is nothing the police can do- I need to get my insurer to collect it and fix whatever has been changed. Currently on hold to the insurer.

Just wondered if anyone had been through this?

OP posts:
browneyes77 · 01/04/2022 21:10

@Oldraver

*My Quashqai has a keyless ignition.

So I purchased a Defender Key Pouch from Amazon. It blocks the signal from your key to the car, so they can’t clone it (they’re about £5 and work a treat!)

Not sure if anyone has recommended it or if you have keyless, but thought id mention it just in case it’s helpful*

Make sure you have one for the spare key as well. We also have a Disklok, and while I think if someone really wanted your car it wouldn't stop them....I hope it makes it harder for them

I do! I bought two!

One for the main key and one to store my spare key in!

Fridgeorflight · 01/04/2022 21:11

Surely there aren't an infinite number of car thieves out there. If the police tackled them then there would be fewer and it would act as a deterrent to those considering taking part. I appreciate it would take some initial investment, but wouldn't it end up at a better "steady state" of lower car thefts?

browneyes77 · 01/04/2022 21:15

@plominoagain

We used to recover every stolen vehicle , no matter what . And what happened ? We would have two cars out of about six , on a good resourcing day , sitting waiting for recovery which can take anything up to three hours to arrive. Whilst listening to the the control room trying to find a unit to go to emergency calls , like violent domestic incidents , burglaries in progress , people being battered , and there wouldn’t be any one left to go. Unlike social services , the NHS, the fire brigade or other partner agencies , we can’t just hand over our calls to someone else and skip home . We have NO back up agency when we run out .

And even then , the amount of complaints we got because we’d recovered people’s cars and it cost , was phenomenal. That’s why we are required to let the owner recover it first .

There’s a finite amount of resources . A LOT less than you think . So make up your mind what you want police to do, because they cannot do it all, and as I recall , people trump property , every single time .

We have fewer and fewer resources now. When I joined nearly thirty years ago , my patch was 2 miles long and 2 wide , and we would parade 40 officers . Most on foot .

Thirty years on, my patch now covers an entire London borough , and we parade somewhere between 16 and 20 officers . For 800, 000 people or so. The number of calls made to our patch is about 250, in an eight hour period . And that’s not including anything reported online , or that is dealt with by taking a crime report over the phone.

This is what happens when you ask an organisation to save 800 million pounds . They’ve sold off the police stations , most of the training estate went for housing , the safer neighbourhood offices . They’ve stopped doing operational feeding for officers , so if you’re now policing say a football match , a march or a protest , you either have to take your own sandwiches ( not exactly practical when your carrier is miles away and there are no pockets in public order babygros ) or find food when you can, often ten to 12 hours into a shift . And then no doubt someone will take your picture and report it on Twitter. When they’ve sold off all they can , the only thing they can cut down on, is people . So the experienced ones leave and aren’t getting replaced . In the next 5 years , there is going to be a MASSIVE exodus , because 30 years ago, there was a massive recruitment drive . People aren’t staying on past their 30. Why would you ? I’ve got about 18 months left , and I can’t wait . Even though I love policing , the actual nuts and bolts of it , I’m done .

The police rarely even show up for burglaries now.

They rock up a week later to ‘take a statement’.

Justmebeingme245 · 01/04/2022 21:16

@wonderstuff

So car thieves can be confident they’re unlikely to get caught in London?
I think that most thieves can be confident about that. On the upside - no need to work or worry about the cost of living crisis. If you don’t have it, just take it. The police won’t care!
Staffy1 · 01/04/2022 21:53

What is the point of the police any more? All they seem to do is harass and threaten innocent people. Just a group a people to avoid at all costs, no help at all.

BobbyeinArkansas · 01/04/2022 22:00

I hadn’t a bike stolen from my unlocked garden shed a a couple of years ago. Met officer showed up as did a forensics officer. Didn’t get it back but they certainly tried.
I’ve had nothing but a good experience with the met.
Anyway glad the OP got the car back. My road has a lot of “prestige” cars and the range rovers go most weeks, according to the street WhatsApp.

Mandyjack · 01/04/2022 22:40

@SalomeNotThatOne

My tracker is just an Apple airtag to help me remember where I've parked Grin so not a proper tracking service.
Good add for Apple Air tag! They weren't highly rated on The Gadget Show!
londonmummy1966 · 01/04/2022 22:44

@plominoagain

We used to recover every stolen vehicle , no matter what . And what happened ? We would have two cars out of about six , on a good resourcing day , sitting waiting for recovery which can take anything up to three hours to arrive. Whilst listening to the the control room trying to find a unit to go to emergency calls , like violent domestic incidents , burglaries in progress , people being battered , and there wouldn’t be any one left to go. Unlike social services , the NHS, the fire brigade or other partner agencies , we can’t just hand over our calls to someone else and skip home . We have NO back up agency when we run out .

And even then , the amount of complaints we got because we’d recovered people’s cars and it cost , was phenomenal. That’s why we are required to let the owner recover it first .

There’s a finite amount of resources . A LOT less than you think . So make up your mind what you want police to do, because they cannot do it all, and as I recall , people trump property , every single time .

We have fewer and fewer resources now. When I joined nearly thirty years ago , my patch was 2 miles long and 2 wide , and we would parade 40 officers . Most on foot .

Thirty years on, my patch now covers an entire London borough , and we parade somewhere between 16 and 20 officers . For 800, 000 people or so. The number of calls made to our patch is about 250, in an eight hour period . And that’s not including anything reported online , or that is dealt with by taking a crime report over the phone.

This is what happens when you ask an organisation to save 800 million pounds . They’ve sold off the police stations , most of the training estate went for housing , the safer neighbourhood offices . They’ve stopped doing operational feeding for officers , so if you’re now policing say a football match , a march or a protest , you either have to take your own sandwiches ( not exactly practical when your carrier is miles away and there are no pockets in public order babygros ) or find food when you can, often ten to 12 hours into a shift . And then no doubt someone will take your picture and report it on Twitter. When they’ve sold off all they can , the only thing they can cut down on, is people . So the experienced ones leave and aren’t getting replaced . In the next 5 years , there is going to be a MASSIVE exodus , because 30 years ago, there was a massive recruitment drive . People aren’t staying on past their 30. Why would you ? I’ve got about 18 months left , and I can’t wait . Even though I love policing , the actual nuts and bolts of it , I’m done .

SO stop strip searching black kids and start investigating real crimes?
Mumoftwoinprimary · 01/04/2022 23:11

What the Met were doing on Wednesday…..

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4519479-to-ask-why-he-was-in-the-changing-room-next-door

I guess the Met are too busy committing sex crimes themselves and then having to arrest each other to actually worry about crimes committed by members of the public….

Fleura · 01/04/2022 23:14

@SenseFromThoughtDivide

they send out an alert if not within the owner’s vicinity put us off

Eh? As I understand this , a tag uses Bluetooth to talk to any iPhone within range (about fifty feet) that phone reports back to the Apple cloud so the tag owner can see where it is anywhere in the world. So if your tag is in San Francisco as long as there’s an iPhone somewhere close you can still locate it even if you are in Pago Pago

You get an alert on your phone if there’s a tag in the vicinity that’s not linked to you - it also bleeps intermittently. It’s a security feature that Apple introduced because they were being using to follow people anonymously/being stuck under cars. My husband linked all our car key tags to his phone, went on holiday, and the bloody things wouldn’t stop going off/alerting me that I had an unlinked tag following my movements 🤦‍♀️
Faith77 · 02/04/2022 00:24

This makes me so angry, but, sadly, after my experience of the Met, I am not in the slightest bit surprised. My daughter & I (single mum) were harassed, racially abused, stoned (as in had actual stones thrown at us, medieval style), &, eventually, physically assaulted along with my elderly, deaf, dad by our then neighbours. This went on for 6 months before the assault. Daily. The Met did NOTHING. Not a damned thing, because the neighbours screamed "Black Lives Matter" & likened themselves to George Floyd if the police so much as looked at them, despite the fact that THEY were the racists! The police were terrified of them, so left a woman & 11yo child living in fear Angry The best bit, though, was that when we were assaulted, the Met, bless 'em, classed it as a "fight", not an assault, arrested myself & my dad, along with the neighbours, & held us for 14 hours, despite knowing I was a single mum. I have been left physically scarred by the assault (wounds weren't treated, or even cleaned), & my daughter & I will always be psychologically scarred, not just by the assault but by the police. We hate them now. So am I surprised they won't do a thing about a stolen car? Nope. Not in the slightest. As others have said, they are too busy committing crimes themselves to stop others from doing so.

fiftyandfat · 02/04/2022 06:52

A friend got a phone call from the police in the middle of the night to tell them that their child had been seriously assaulted and was dead. The so called investigation has been a complete farce.
But, as pp have said, tie a few ribbons on a fence and they will be out in force to arrest you.

JosieJasper · 02/04/2022 09:12

“They are probably too busy raping and murdering women and strip searching black children to bother with things like stolen cars.“

What a sick comment. Do you also accuse all midwives of murdering babies, all doctors of stealing from and murdering the elderly or all teachers of abusing children?? No of course you don’t but these are all stories that have been in the news over recent years.

For all the typical public on here asking “what do the Police do?” Just an example of one day this week for my husband. A 17 hour shift (not including travel to/from work) with no real break dealing with a double fatality RTC, two others with life changing injuries. He had to deal and manage the scene to get all required evidence but also to get the roads back open again because you know..the public don’t like to be kept waiting in traffic even for a fatal do they, as they have places to be that are far more important. Him and his team then have to track down relatives and pass on very sad news. It’s then the reams of paperwork to be done to gather the evidence and get everything together to ensure it’s passed by the CPS and a decent conviction can be obtained as he wants to get some form of justice for the families and those young adults that have had their lives changed forever.
As he drops by a petrol station to grab a quick sandwich at 11pm (after leaving home at 4:45am that morning) he gets the typical “shouldn’t you be out catching criminals?” comment rather than “let me buy that for you” which is what the nurses and paramedics often get. He got home around 11:30pm and went straight to bed to get a few hours sleep before his early shift the next day. I haven’t seen him to find out about the rest of his week as he’s working lates and I’ve been at work. Also, the Police pay tax too so they contribute towards their own salary don’t they. Which for the work they do is pretty low and with yet another year of a pay freeze! Anyway, you can all clearly do a better job so maybe sign up and change things.

Neverendingdust · 02/04/2022 09:14

Apple Air Tags are fantastic. Highly recommend them for tracking important items.

Memyselfandfood · 02/04/2022 09:52

Same here op.
I had addresses, receipts of everything, multiple cctv of the thieves on their sprees.
Police weren't interested.
I have no faith in the police anymore.

catwomando · 02/04/2022 10:13

@WhyBeMeanLikeThat I've done a ride along. Very educational. I'd say don't do,it if you get car sick as they drive very very fast through the london streets. Part of it made me feel like I was in an episode of the Sweeney (or the Bill). Was scary in parts. The officers I was with were very patient and skilful and spent a lot of time on shitty pointless paperwork and people with mental health issues who had fallen down the gaping chasms gaps in our social care system.

It's totally shit @SalomeNotThatOne that they are taking no notice of you. Unacceptable. But then given the huge funding cuts and shortage of officers I'm not surprised at all.

LoisLane66 · 02/04/2022 11:02

By a steering wheel lock as well. They can't usually be bothered to spend time messing about.

LoisLane66 · 02/04/2022 11:03

*Buy not by

Mamamama212 · 02/04/2022 11:07

The car won't be outside the criminals house it will have been left at a random spot so they can figure out if it's got a tracker or not.

Petlover9 · 02/04/2022 15:01

@Mumoftwoinprimary

They are probably too busy raping and murdering women and strip searching black children to bother with things like stolen cars.
Sounds about right, sadly
thedancingbear · 02/04/2022 15:38

@JosieJasper

“They are probably too busy raping and murdering women and strip searching black children to bother with things like stolen cars.“

What a sick comment. Do you also accuse all midwives of murdering babies, all doctors of stealing from and murdering the elderly or all teachers of abusing children?? No of course you don’t but these are all stories that have been in the news over recent years.

For all the typical public on here asking “what do the Police do?” Just an example of one day this week for my husband. A 17 hour shift (not including travel to/from work) with no real break dealing with a double fatality RTC, two others with life changing injuries. He had to deal and manage the scene to get all required evidence but also to get the roads back open again because you know..the public don’t like to be kept waiting in traffic even for a fatal do they, as they have places to be that are far more important. Him and his team then have to track down relatives and pass on very sad news. It’s then the reams of paperwork to be done to gather the evidence and get everything together to ensure it’s passed by the CPS and a decent conviction can be obtained as he wants to get some form of justice for the families and those young adults that have had their lives changed forever.
As he drops by a petrol station to grab a quick sandwich at 11pm (after leaving home at 4:45am that morning) he gets the typical “shouldn’t you be out catching criminals?” comment rather than “let me buy that for you” which is what the nurses and paramedics often get. He got home around 11:30pm and went straight to bed to get a few hours sleep before his early shift the next day. I haven’t seen him to find out about the rest of his week as he’s working lates and I’ve been at work. Also, the Police pay tax too so they contribute towards their own salary don’t they. Which for the work they do is pretty low and with yet another year of a pay freeze! Anyway, you can all clearly do a better job so maybe sign up and change things.

So if your husband is so overworked,how does your husband find time to routinely stop and harass black people, just for the colour of their skin? Because I can tell you now, after 16 years of living in London, this is daily, institutional behaviour, carried out, as far as I can tell, for shits and giggles. And it’s fucking disgusting.
Ferris124 · 02/04/2022 16:04

I would call the Police again and say you are going around to the address with a bat and getting your car back, if the tea-leaf comes out I will will beat the crap out of him. See if that will get them involved?

me109f · 02/04/2022 17:41

Unbelievable.

However, it reminds me of when my car was stolen from outside a hotel in Birmingham. A late-night nursing mother saw it and rang the police who stopped the thieves. The driver was caught,14 years old, part of a gang, had a list of previous car theft charges awaiting.
My car had been put in a 'secure yard', a place in a scrap yard the police used. It was there for 3 days while the police 'checked it for drugs and weapons'. Nice for them, they charged my insurance company over £200 for the service! (£70 /day!!) I am not making it up.
It took over 6 months to set a trial date. It was to be 2 days before Xmas and the court was 180 miles from my home. The police asked me to attend but I queried if it was necessary as I had done a full statement, but I would if the police would pay my expenses to travel all the way to Birmingham. The police cancelled the trial and the accused let was off for stealing my car as he had stolen so many over the prior and subsequent months to the trial there was no point in taking him to court. Clearly the police would not fund my court appearance and were looking for an excuse not to prosecute. I have little time for the police now. The theft cost my insurance company about £1700 as my car had been smashed into and I had £1200 of unclaimable costs, I sold the car soon afterwards.

Such an ineffective police force is clearly a disgrace IMO.

Toothfairy2750 · 03/04/2022 07:43

Smash the side window and put a disc lock on the wheel. Doesn’t matter what they do, they can’t then move that vehicle. They’re almost impossible to remove. Cost you to replace the window and about 100 quid for a large disc lock. Then whatever they’ve don’t to the car. But at least you’ve taken it back. Get the AA to come and collect it then for you on a tow truck . Haven’t read all 11 pages above so sorry if anything duplicates !

TroysMammy · 03/04/2022 10:23

@Toothfairy2750 car was recovered on Friday. If you go to the OP thread click on see all at the end you can get up all the O Ps come without reading any other posters comments.

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