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Will Smith punches Chris Rock on stage at the Oscars.

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CheeseMuffin · 28/03/2022 04:10

I think I speak for us all when I ask WTF just happened?

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2022/mar/27/will-smith-punch-chris-rock-wife-joke-gi-jane-video-oscars

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CatkinToadflax · 28/03/2022 09:13

@Habitatty282

The thing about the joke, he compared her to GI Jane, an absolutely gorgeous, strong, incredible woman. Demi Moore was iconic in that role, so beautiful. Jada could have taken that as a compliment, said 'thankyou' and stroked her head or something like that, empowered all the women out there with alopecia. I have disabilities and the best thing you can do is laugh about them. It was a pretty tame joke.
Good grief. What an awful thing to say. Obviously it was JPS’s fault for reacting wrong. Course it was. Hmm Confused
Clymene · 28/03/2022 09:14

I had no idea who Chris Rock was before this morning. Didn't know he was black, wouldn't be able to pick him out of a line up. I didn't know who Dave Chappelle was until the big furore earlier in the year. I'd never heard of him. That doesn't make me racist, it makes me a British person who doesn't know much about US comedy.

5zeds · 28/03/2022 09:15

I have disabilities and the best thing you can do is laugh about them. I’m sorry someone has taught you that.

Peoniesandpeaches · 28/03/2022 09:15

[quote MrsLargeEmbodied]@Peoniesandpeaches

twitter scammed me[/quote]
Twitter didn’t scam you. You jamp to conclusions.

BeHappy91818 · 28/03/2022 09:15

What happened was Chris got a slap for his vile joke about wills wife.

Seems fair.

gazprom · 28/03/2022 09:15

I have a shaved head to and I get all sorts of reactions randomly, whatever, that's on them. but I would almost certainly expect it in a comedy roast

VampireMoney · 28/03/2022 09:16

Can we atop calling alopecia a disability though? Because it's not.

jungledoc · 28/03/2022 09:16

When did alopecia become a disability?

MrsLargeEmbodied · 28/03/2022 09:17

@Peoniesandpeaches

err no,
but if thats what you want to believe

Ohmnomnom · 28/03/2022 09:17

Will Smith was an absolute coward. If he really needed to resort to physical violence he should have waited until they were outside and Chris could defend himself. Will knew full well Chris wouldn't fight back while he was in the middle of hosting the Oscars. Like when people are rude to waiters or customer service reps as they know they won't react for fear of losing their job.

gazprom · 28/03/2022 09:17

I agree, it is a medical condition (I have it), not a disability

youvegottenminuteslynn · 28/03/2022 09:18

[quote HumousWhereTheHeartIs]**@NdefH81 There has been no statement for Will Smith or Jada Pinkett-Smith. Their people weren't ready to react. Neither was The Academy who have effectively thrown Will Smith under the bus by saying they don't condone violence. That is not how they'd react if this were for PR. And there's no way Will Smith's agent and management would agree to this stunt which has overshadowed his win and played into a very racist stereotype. It's a PR disaster for Will Smith. The Academy is distancing itself. The person who could benefit most is Chris Rock.[/quote]
This.

@NdefH81 I've worked in PR at a senior level for a long time. Perhaps you don't really work in PR or perhaps you've worked in agencies that don't represent their clients / brands well... either way you'd be absolutely wrong to think that Will Smith and his team would have agreed to this as a planned stunt.

MollyRover · 28/03/2022 09:18

@5zeds

Poor woman. Mocked for everyone’s entertainment. I hope his actions made it easier for her. I suspect she will hear the comment on repeat from every ignorant hurtful heckler for a long time though.
It's basically his whole shtick though. Any time I've ever heard anything from him it's making jokes at women's expense- Penelope bore the brunt of the preceding punchline. Will was definitely out of line, Jada is clearly more than able to defend herself, but I just wish someone would ask Chris Rock why he hates women so much, since he seemingly can't tell a joke without involving us.
Doubleraspberry · 28/03/2022 09:18

I’m wasn’t saying last night was self defence, but many people on this thread have stated there is “never an acceptable level of violence” and I’m saying that’s not true.
Legally there is, and actually you can be excused in law (particularly in some states in America) for hitting someone because someone has insulted you/offended you. You can be excused in law for shooting someone for looking at your house wrong in some states. Not saying it’s right, but in law there is a tolerated level of violence up to and including death that doesn’t even require a physical assault from the injured party.

Then there’s a gulf between morally and legally acceptable isn’t there? The violence we saw from Will Smith last night may be bizarrely legal in some US states but worldwide exposure of it is nothing but harmful. Any celebration of that behaviour is harmful.

Imagine how much worse it would have been if Chris Rock had hit back?

Not many people would, I imagine, argue against proportionate force being used in existential self defence, but that is not a common situation and dragging into arguments about whether it’s acceptable to walk up to someone and punch them is a straw man. Ironically of course the people who most often suffer from this sort of toxic violence don’t exercise self defence often, and on occasions where they do, have ended up criminalised themselves.

MrsLargeEmbodied · 28/03/2022 09:20

anyway, i wonder if more people over here will flock to see King Richard?

VampireMoney · 28/03/2022 09:22

@jungledoc

When did alopecia become a disability?
It isn't. But some posters on this thread keep referring to it as one! Medical condition, yes. Disability, no.
DebenhamsHadSomeLovelyStuff · 28/03/2022 09:24

TBH I can't blame WS, CR publicly took a swipe at his wife for a cheap laugh, she is ill for christ sake
Those speeches must be pre-approved
Disgusting, he should have punched him harder
Wanker

Caminante · 28/03/2022 09:24

@MrsLargeEmbodied

I think thats worse than the original clip to be honest.
LizzieSiddal · 28/03/2022 09:25

Jada should not have been there if she was feeling too fragile full stop. The oscars is well known for this kind of stuff.

What an awful thing to post! She isn’t the one who went and hit somebody!

Swayingpalmtrees · 28/03/2022 09:25

I say this as someone with a serious condition, I would not be going to the oscars if I felt I couldn't handle it. Jada did not indicate that she could not handle it, or needed 'defending' - she had the option to stand up and walk out/take him on herself she does not need a man to speak for her/call out the issue afterwards.

This was not, and was never about Jada and her condition.

Will took exception to the jumped up little comedy guy trading on his family personal (but very public) stuff and decided to show him who is boss.

CosmopolitanPlease · 28/03/2022 09:25

Jesus 🤦‍♀️

MrsLargeEmbodied · 28/03/2022 09:25

@Caminante

turns out that is fake
be careful what you believe on twitter

youvegottenminuteslynn · 28/03/2022 09:26

@MrsLargeEmbodied

It makes me feel really sad that anyone is actually thinking this is real when Chris Rock isn't in the clip. And yet not shocked. Things haven't moved on as much as we would all like to think.
Caminante · 28/03/2022 09:26

Glad to see the "Chris Rock" video isn't real after all.

Febrier · 28/03/2022 09:27

That's not the video I am referring to. There's one backstage, and no mention of a Jaden.