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Oh, Nazanin. How dignified you are.

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AnyFucker · 21/03/2022 13:12

Just seen a clip of the press conference she gave. How generous of her to share it with the daughter of a man still trapped in Iran.

How composed and articulate she is. Honestly, with so many fucking idiots in power, how do we keep the faith in the face of what happened to Nazanin.

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Gilly12345 · 21/03/2022 19:09

I thought she was dignified and calm but yes there obviously is some anger/disappointment in the government taking so long to pay the debt.

I think she should of thanked Liz Truss and team for helping with her release but I fully understand her frustration in it taking so long.

I hope the media leave the family alone to rebuild their lives.

MoonUnderWater · 21/03/2022 19:11

I think she might bear in mind any other national who finds themselves in the position she was in. Her comments now might not help anyone else.

Of course, it might not make any difference at all but if there is just the slightest chance that her remarks might negatively impact on anyone else then I think she should be a bit more mindful of that. Not everyone is out either in Iran or around the world.

EthelTheAardvark · 21/03/2022 19:13

You're right she should've been able to take her baby to see her parents Iran. Perhaps tell the Iranian government that.

If the risk was so obvious, perhaps the government in power at the time should have stopped travel to Iran, particularly for dual nationals. Let me see, which government would that be? Why, a Conservative one, what a surprise.

MuggleMadness · 21/03/2022 19:15

There are some incredibly horrible posts on this thread - shame on those posters with such vile comments & attitudes.

I hope N&R have others who will read online threads & filter through anything positive/useful & weed out the nasty posts.

I wonder if N's parents would like to come here to live (and be with NRG). If they would, Boris should arrange it.

EthelTheAardvark · 21/03/2022 19:15

I do like the fact that she has made it impossible for Cabinet members to try to make political capital out of her release. I bet they were itching for a few photo opportunities.

Wolfiefan · 21/03/2022 19:16

Some truly horrible comments here.
I am thrilled to see her home and reunited with her husband and daughter. I thought she was dignified, articulate, and spoke with grace as well as strength. (If only our politicians could do the same.)
Knowing the regime I hope her family over there remain safe.
I hope she can find some peace and happiness.

PastMyBestBeforeDate · 21/03/2022 19:22

Tobias Elwood, the Conservative MP who had an FCO brief for a while, is also of the opinion that more could have and should have been done.

Blossomtoes · 21/03/2022 19:29

Completely agree @Wolfiefan. Some of the posts on this thread make me feel ashamed.

nannykatherine · 21/03/2022 19:36

Her husband praised her Grace ..
What else can you say ..
Someone we should all try to be like …

TheOnlyMrsMac · 21/03/2022 19:36

I wonder if N's parents would like to come here to live (and be with NRG). If they would, Boris should arrange it.

Please, not Boris. It would probably end up with the blundering oaf sending them to Lviv instead of London by mistake.

samG76 · 21/03/2022 19:38

People who talk about her "sentence being lengthened" due to Boris seem to have forgotten that she was a hostage. It's not that she was sentenced for a crime by a court acting in any judicial capacity - they just put her (and anyone else they don't like, like trade unionists, gays, etc) in prison for as long as they want. Not that it was Boris's finest hour, but the idea that the Iranians were ever going to say "your sentence is up - you're free" is laughable.

TheOnlyMrsMac · 21/03/2022 19:39

@Blossomtoes

Completely agree *@Wolfiefan*. Some of the posts on this thread make me feel ashamed.
It is only a tiny minority. A very vocal minority. But still a minority and they are being deleted and rebuked by the majority.
nannykatherine · 21/03/2022 19:41

@JinglingHellsBells

I am delighted she is free BUT none of us really know the truth behind her situation or what has been done to secure her release.

There will be much she is not allowed to discuss.

I feel sorry that she openly criticised her H who has helped her so much. I don't feel much hope for their marriage as the dialogue bordered on how they have to adjust to each other. Fair enough - understand that- but I don't feel those comments are for the public. It's a private conversation surely?

When did she openly criticise him ????? I watched the whole thing and didn’t get the same thought as you ..
Blossomtoes · 21/03/2022 19:43

@samG76

People who talk about her "sentence being lengthened" due to Boris seem to have forgotten that she was a hostage. It's not that she was sentenced for a crime by a court acting in any judicial capacity - they just put her (and anyone else they don't like, like trade unionists, gays, etc) in prison for as long as they want. Not that it was Boris's finest hour, but the idea that the Iranians were ever going to say "your sentence is up - you're free" is laughable.
You’re wrong.

9 September 2016
Sentenced
Zaghari-Ratcliffe is sentenced to five years in jail. Her husband says the exact charges are still being kept a secret.

That’s from The Guardian.

MoonUnderWater · 21/03/2022 19:47

If blame is to be apportioned, it is really not just onthe British goverment.

Nazanin should of course have the right to visit her parents without the horror that befell her but was she totally ignorant of the type of country Iran is, a complete Innocent Abroad?

I don't think that can be the case-she is far from stupid so she must have known there was a risk, even a slight one and decided to take it.

So she has to accept some of this is her fault.

The British government could have acted quicker in order to secure her release.

So they have to accept that some of it is their fault.

The Iranian government are the ones who took her and held her hostage/ prisoner.

In my opinion, they are the ones most to blame.

There are shades of blame, culpability and responsibility.

Carriecakes80 · 21/03/2022 19:51

Sick already of those who keep saying she should be more 'grateful'. Disgusting. This woman has more class in her little finger than those 'running' this country will ever have, they need to realise WHY she was put into the position she was in!

StScholastica · 21/03/2022 19:54

She is amazing.
I hope that she uses her platform and let's us all benefit from her grace and intelligence.
Welcome home Nazanin.

TheOnlyMrsMac · 21/03/2022 19:54

Nazanin was also sentenced to another 12 months in October 2021. Her appeal failed, the sentence remained hanging over her and could have been implemented at any time.

JassyRadlett · 21/03/2022 19:54

I think she should of thanked Liz Truss and team for helping with her release but I fully understand her frustration in it taking so long.

She did thank 'the politicians' in another part of her statement. Do we really need bowing and scraping?

I can understand the ongoing misgivings and mistrust given the handling of Morad Tahbaz's case - in particular that his family were apparently consistently told that he would be part of any deal made, then the actual deal being obviously just for show and he's already back in Evin. That his family in the UK found out he wasn't included via the media is so awful.

lemongreentea · 21/03/2022 19:55

@JaniieJones

A bit of gratitude for the foreign secretaries who worked tirelessly to secure her freedom and some condemnation of the Iranian govt who were actually responsible would have been nice.
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eldora · 21/03/2022 19:56

@JinglingHellsBells

I am delighted she is free BUT none of us really know the truth behind her situation or what has been done to secure her release.

There will be much she is not allowed to discuss.

I feel sorry that she openly criticised her H who has helped her so much. I don't feel much hope for their marriage as the dialogue bordered on how they have to adjust to each other. Fair enough - understand that- but I don't feel those comments are for the public. It's a private conversation surely?

Where did she openly criticise him? She disagreed with him and said the below:

”I do not really agree with him on that level. I love you Richard, respect whatever you believe, but I was told many, many times that “Oh, we’re going to get you home.” That never happened. I mean, how many foreign secretaries does it take for someone to come home? Five? What’s happened now should have happened six years ago.”

You do get that women are allowed to disagree with their husbands, or anyone else, right?

Casheeeew · 21/03/2022 19:59

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Notonthestairs · 21/03/2022 20:00

Is it normal to have 5 Foreign Sec's in 6 years?

"I think Nazanin wasn't able to speak freely about Iran today, not with Morad Tahbaz still being kept hostage by Iran. That's why she refrained from critizizing Iran and blamed the Foreign Office - she didn't want to put Morad at risk."

^^This from @Pinkcadillac is spot on in my view.

RashofBees · 21/03/2022 20:01

@MoonUnderWater - that is almost a textbook example of victim blaming. Nazanin did nothing illegal or immoral. She wasn’t negligent or reckless. It is very easy to say that someone has been stupid or entitled in travelling to a country like Iran (appreciate those are words used by other posters), but she is a citizen - it is her home as much as the UK is - and it is entirely natural that she would want very strongly to go there. She was ill-treated by the Iranian government and deserved assistance from the British government.

This idea that she bears responsibility for what happened to her is unfair. Not to mention posters smugly saying they’d never have been so stupid, when they don’t face what is essentially a life in exile as the alternative.

AnneKisee · 21/03/2022 20:01

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