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What Is Up With My Friend?

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Soffit · 07/03/2022 16:14

I have been friends with her since we were teenagers. We were definitely best friends but as the years went by, we became increasingly distant. She has always been kind and a good listener but has the typical upper middle class 'English reserve' so not much spontaneous emotion on show.
She started dating much earlier than I did. Even when she chose to lose her virginity, it was clearly more about completing a rite of passage rather than emotionally engaging. She went through breakups without expressing any emotions even though she never instigated these. She always stated that she hoped for a serious relationship but she has not changed her approach towards them. Arranging dates is always done as though it is an administrative procedure. This has become worse since she immersed herself into OLD.
She works in different cities around the world. Typically, she will go onto dating apps just before relocating and set up dates and she is usually intimate with a new person within a week of moving. However, as I said, there is no sign of excitement or unbridled passion. It is all about filling in a timetable efficiently and establishing (in a consistently rigid ratio) her work-entertainment-chores-friends-dating balance.
She always obliges wrt consummating the relationships even when she feels it is hopeless and is also emotionless in the way in which she relays this.
Once she allowed a guy back simply because he stated that he had parked near her flat as they left the restaurant because he had paid for the meal and she thought it was fair to award him a shag for it even though there was no spark or prospect of another date. She will oblige every time in a dutiful drab way like old married couples. Her ratio of time allocated to the relationship doesn't change through time either. The guys invariably dump her and she is nonplussed in her reaction and immediately gets back on the apps in robotic fashion. Consequently, her 'number' is now huge even though she is a well-spoken, cultured, demure sort.
She still maintains that she would like a serious relationship but everything in her approach and demeanour seems wrong (unless this is normal and I have misunderstood her. It bothers me to such an extent that I now question whether she is even emotionally engaged as a friend or simply going through the correct motions. What could it be?

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Tuiwow · 07/03/2022 16:31

And you are a friend?

Choppingonions · 07/03/2022 16:34

She sounds like she has empathy. Have you experienced it? Would you say she was anxious? Is she very like either of her parents? What was her home situation like?

Honeyroar · 07/03/2022 16:39

You sound very judgemental. The way you speak about her is awful.

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girlmom21 · 07/03/2022 16:40

Maybe she just likes dating and sex but feels like she has to say she wants a 'proper relationship' so people don't judge her.

It's not easy to sustain a meaningful relationship if you travel a lot for work.

nearlyspringyay · 07/03/2022 16:40

glad you're not my friend...

Can a well spoken, cultured person not indulge in consensual adult sex? Do you have to speak in a certain way?

DysmalRadius · 07/03/2022 16:56

I have to agree with PP's - you sound fitting judgemental about her choices in life. Has she given you any indication that she is unhappy with the situation or is it just that you have some kind of ideal fantasy about how dating should be done that you are imposing on her?

midsomermurderess · 07/03/2022 17:01

I can't understand why you are telling strangers on the internet this. What are you hoping to achieve? Diagnose my friend with, well, with what? This place can be very odd, so I guess just some more oddness.

Thatsplentyjack · 07/03/2022 17:04

You are far to invested in your "friends" sex life. Worry about your own and leave her alone.

bluepeacock · 07/03/2022 17:12

She sounds a bit emotionless I agree but everyone is different? It sounds like you are psycho-analysing her because you don't understand why she does things the way she does - but maybe she's perfectly happy? I understand, I'm guilty of doing this myself (psychoanalysing people!) but I wouldn't voice my personal opinions unless someone asked.

I'm not sure there's anything "wrong" with her - maybe it's just her personality, some people are kind of robotic and methodical and like everything to be super-organised. It's not for you to fix her though, she may not feel she needs "fixing"!

Chikapu · 07/03/2022 17:14

How do you know she's obliging in a dutiful drab way? Are you sitting at the end of the bed?

TheYearOfSmallThings · 07/03/2022 17:18

Never mind her, what is wrong with you?

The way you write about her is awful.

Crimeismymiddlename · 07/03/2022 17:24

Why do you care? You’re her friend yet you have chosen to go on the internet to ask what is wrong with friend because she shags around. Nothing is wrong with her, she likes shagging around.

Soffit · 07/03/2022 17:28

We discuss it openly and she shares the details voluntarily. She doesn’t know why she does it either. Her parents had one of those perfect marriages although they were certainly emotionally reserved. I know that I psychoanalyse her excessively but she doesn’t mind. I suppose that I was waiting for the day that she would adopt a more mature approach to relationships and she is outwardly very mature and proper. However, her relationship patterns are at odds with everything else. I really do care about her like a sister but I have gone from feeling that this may be normal to now thinking that we are too far apart in our ideas to be friends for life. I don’t explicitly condemn it but I don’t approve or understand it.

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JoyOrbison · 07/03/2022 17:29

Ooooh creepy, why are you so invested in her dating and sex life??

Laiste · 07/03/2022 17:29

Some people are driven by different priorities than us. Some people are caring but don't wear their heart on their sleeve or aren't as easily hurt/upset by set backs or rejection.

I know someone like this. Her great passion is travelling. She has a beautiful house. She says she would have liked a husband and kids but just didn't 'get time' because she was busy working hard to earn money to fulfill her greatest desire which is to travel the globe.

She's lovely with her nieces and nephews and generous and kind with my kids, but not misty eyed over them. She's had a couple of flings with work colleagues in the long distant past - but she's just not that bothered about it.

Luckymummytoone · 07/03/2022 17:30

Wow what a friend! It’s up to her how she spends her time. I don’t really know why you’re so invested to ask a bunch of strangers on the internet!

Soffit · 07/03/2022 17:30

@DysmalRadius

I have to agree with PP's - you sound fitting judgemental about her choices in life. Has she given you any indication that she is unhappy with the situation or is it just that you have some kind of ideal fantasy about how dating should be done that you are imposing on her?
Yes. She thinks it is a realistic way to find an enduring relationship. I don’t agree
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LizDoingTheCanCan · 07/03/2022 17:31

It doesn't matter if she minds, it does matter that you are very rude.

Luckymummytoone · 07/03/2022 17:31

Wow just wow to your new update! You don’t deserve any friends 😅

labyrinthlaziness · 07/03/2022 17:31

Oh my word, I think you need to be asking yourself why you are posting about a 'friend' in this way.

I do not think you are a good friend at all.

Chikapu · 07/03/2022 17:32

You don't have to approve it, wind your neck in with regards to her sex life. Change the subject if she brings it up or are you loving all the juicy details?

Soffit · 07/03/2022 17:45

She feels that I am a good friend. I have always been there for her through difficult times. I would say that she is the one constantly bringing up the details of her encounters and it does constitute around 80% of what we talk about. It was always the case from the beginning of the friendship. She doesn't have any children, her wider family has receded into the background and because she travels all the time, we no longer know the same people.

Perhaps I am a lousy friend and we need to break out of a friendship that is not benefitting either of us anymore.

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iklboo · 07/03/2022 17:46

I don’t explicitly condemn it but I don’t approve or understand it.

You don't have to. She doesn't need you to. She's an adult.

Nonotnownorman · 07/03/2022 17:47

Instead of worrying what is ‘up’ with your friend. You should spend some time looking inwards at what is ‘up’ with you.

Soffit · 07/03/2022 17:47

@labyrinthlaziness

Oh my word, I think you need to be asking yourself why you are posting about a 'friend' in this way.

I do not think you are a good friend at all.

It is true that she has been based abroad for so long that I no longer feel the same connection towards her as when we were younger. I should probably stop describing myself as her good friend.
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