Companies with Russian links to boycott

[Tulipomania]

I haven't seen another thread on this.

Can we compile a list of companies to boycott who are refusing to withdraw business from Russia?

I'll take a start with Coca-Cola, and Costa Coffee, which is owned by Coke.

Oh dear, this thread hasn't gone the way I intended.

People are welcome to start their own threads about China, about the efficacy of boycotts and to boast about other campaigns they have or haven't supported in the past.

The point by Ariela about Costa being a family franchise is a good one, and something I didn't know and hadn't considered, thank you. Useful information.

Sadly it’s not just the Tories. New Labour drove it, and dear Sir Keir is signalling quite strongly that that’s where he wants to go back to.

ODFOD DogandMog. I'm an economist. I know how it works.

I also believe I have the right to spend my money with organisations who share my ethics. It's not always easy because nothing is transparent. And I'm looking for information to help me to do that, not a sanctimonious lecture.

There's plenty of better places to ask than strangers on mumsnet though, surely? Especially as you are so knowledgeable and enlightened?

@Robotdott

There's plenty of better places to ask than strangers on mumsnet though, surely? Especially as you are so knowledgeable and enlightened?

I don't think OP is knowledgeable - that's why she's asking

And I wouid certainly find a list based on at least some verifiable evidence to be useful

Then people can decide if they want to act. If they do, a list such as OP intended would at least mean they were boycotting as intended.

And if there is a good list elsewhere on line, would you be kind and link it?

^ might as well turn the internet off then!

No, I won't be boycotting.
Boycotting will hit regular people first, and the hardest.

The oligarchs you are aiming for will just diversify and find another way to fatten their coffers. Meanwhile, everyday people, both here and there are wiped out.

And Keir S being pressured to change his name is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Reminds me of the anti German/Japanese hysteria during WW2

"And Keir S being pressured to change his name is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Reminds me of the anti German/Japanese hysteria during WW2"

It's meant to be ridiculous! It's a tease, and a pretty bloody obvious one!

@VikingVolva they're an economist apparently which suggests they should know where to find relevant info, although as didn't understand about franchises perhaps not. I actually think personally the balanced viewpoints on the thread are good, if someone is reading this it's good they can make a more informed decision rather than yeah great I'll stop buying from all of those because someone on an anon forum said so- screw the implications here and abroad. Of course people can buy what they want, but an arbitrary list of stuff to avoid to be taken as true on here doesn't seem helpful. I would recommend Google.

I'm not particularly interested in an arbitrary list, rather a well-founded one even if it is incomplete especially initially.

MNers used to be pretty good at either/both amassing info or at signposting good places with accurate information.

It’s sort of cruel to completely justify hurting millions of Russians. but it’s fair for the EU and the U.K. to import LNG even though the Uks share is just less 4 percent , it’s still worth £2bn.
So unless the EU stops it’s dependence on Russian LNG then I’m afraid no IKEA or Kering withdrawal from Russian market is going to make a big change.

You might not care about the Russian economy and the ordinary Russians having a basic job and paying the rent and putting food on the table. But many countries like Egypt rely on Russia for wheat and grain imports. Plus non-food agricultural products like fertiliser. The natural gas to make the fertiliser (haber-bosch process to convert nitrogen uses huge amounts of fossil fuels). There’s not enough slack in the global economy to bridge the gap when the Russian economy falls over. Hundreds of millions of people depend on Russia to directly eat, to grow food and to power the agricultural economy. Food and energy prices are already going up steeply and even people in affluent countries like the UK are feeling the pinch now. We’ll see steep inflation pushing millions into deep poverty in the UK and collapse in lower income countries. The global economy is set up like dominoes.

@VikingVolva

I'm not particularly interested in an arbitrary list, rather a well-founded one even if it is incomplete especially initially.

MNers used to be pretty good at either/both amassing info or at signposting good places with accurate information.

Go for it then, look forward to seeing your list once you've done it :)

People are welcome to start their own threads about China, about the efficacy of boycotts and to boast about other campaigns they have or haven't supported in the past

Op Why shouldn’t posters make comments about China? I am watching with interest to see what the CCP does or doesn’t do re Russia’s invasion - it’s perfectly relevant.
Also I don’t see why there shouldn’t be posts about other boycotts over the years and the effect they had on the boycotted country etc.

@GlacindaTheTroll

"And Keir S being pressured to change his name is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Reminds me of the anti German/Japanese hysteria during WW2"

It's meant to be ridiculous! It's a tease, and a pretty bloody obvious one!

As a pp said, surely you realised that was a joke?

I would like to imagine that had the Iraq war happened today, in the age of social media that sanctions and boycotts would have happened too. I'm equally as outraged with Blair/Bush as I am with Putin.

Where I work we have cancelled our order with a Russian supplier. I have a good working relationship with my contact in Russia. It was very hard wording the email to them. It is nothing personal against the people of Russia but hopefully shows them, who are only being fed Putin's version of the war that it has outraged many countries. It is a tiny step, maybe it won't make any difference but we can't turn a blind eye and do nothing.

@BookkeeperBobby

It's not just the Tories! Labour leader Starmer is still refusing to change his name from the Russian spelling Kier to Ukrainian spelling Kyir despite growing international pressure. 😱

Is this sarcastic? I honestly can't tell in this place anymore!

Oh dear, this thread hasn't gone the way I intended.

Because it's bloody stupid.

I don't think it's stupid to gave a reference list of Russian stuff. Those who wish to boycott can use it for that. Those who don't can ignore it.

Is this sarcastic? I honestly can't tell in this place anymore!

I thought it was sarcastic but I’m not sure any more since apparently there is now pressure on Russ Abbot to change his name as people may consider his first name to show tacit support for Russia.

@lemongreentea: “lol”. Christ, how do you look at yourself in the mirror?

@FuckeryOmbudsman

I don't think it's stupid to gave a reference list of Russian stuff. Those who wish to boycott can use it for that. Those who don't can ignore it.

The problem is that its not as straightforward as that, as people have identified there might be a company which on paper could be boycotted because a parent company might not have withdrawn from Russia (costa coffee) yet most of those stores are owned by franchise so who is being impacted?

Its thoughtless and simplistic and some people pointed that out.

It's not thoughtless. Well, not inherently thoughtless - there will always be people who miss the point and that might look the same.

It could be simplistic if evidence/explanation not supplied. But there's no reason not to supply that, is there?

I didn't think OP was asking for a knee-jerk list.

And isn't it better if those who wish to boycott do so on the basis of decent information, not just what they found on Google?

I guess there's a generational component to this - depending on whether you were old enough to participate in the South African boycott

Wrt Russ Abbott I believe it's his middle name - Ian - that is causing problems.

I didn't think OP was asking for a knee-jerk list.

The entire concept of boycotting is a knee-jerk reaction.