Companies with Russian links to boycott

[Tulipomania]

I haven't seen another thread on this.

Can we compile a list of companies to boycott who are refusing to withdraw business from Russia?

I'll take a start with Coca-Cola, and Costa Coffee, which is owned by Coke.

Why was it no "suspect lives matter"

@Hedgecog

They sell stuff in Russia.

And?

If you sell stuff in russia and not pull out, you are knowingly funding Putin's warcrimes. They should pull out and really make the economy tank to stop it.

The ignorance is astounding. Unilever have units in Russia but also in many other countries, including Ukraine. I also don't really agree that plundering Russians into a situation where they can buy fuck all is aspirational. People saying well it'll push them to overthrow Putin have zero idea of what it's like there. Some people need to get a life.

AlternativePerspective
“Who did you boycott when the US and UK were invading Iraq?”

Thank you 👏👏👏

Those saying that hindsight has no place and we thought they were “baddies”: fuck off! There were PLENTY of sane minded people back then who looked at the drone footage and read what was being reported and decided that war was wrong and that Saddam didn’t have WMDs. It was obviously a war that George wanted to have to please his father.

I’ve noticed a lot of these covert racists everywhere. War in Iraq is explained away as hindsight. Guess brown Muslim people dying isn’t that heart wrenching.

@Robotdott

The ignorance is astounding. Unilever have units in Russia but also in many other countries, including Ukraine. I also don't really agree that plundering Russians into a situation where they can buy fuck all is aspirational. People saying well it'll push them to overthrow Putin have zero idea of what it's like there. Some people need to get a life.

That's not the point of the boycott. It's to stop Putin funding war. It's not to punish the ordinary people in their homes.

you’re not even ashamed of your racism are you @CowboyJo? Fucking shocking

@Robotdott

The ignorance is astounding. Unilever have units in Russia but also in many other countries, including Ukraine. I also don't really agree that plundering Russians into a situation where they can buy fuck all is aspirational. People saying well it'll push them to overthrow Putin have zero idea of what it's like there. Some people need to get a life.

From the Russian perspective (from my limited knowledge) the war is justified because they see NATO (as primarily USA) has encroached on their borders and backtracked on agreements previously made.

Under those same agreements, Ukraine gave up (rather ironically) its own nuclear arsenal over to the Russians who agreed never to use them against Ukraine. All very intertwined with each side seeing itself as justified.

There will be no winners here and forgoing your bottle of coke is going to make not a jot of difference.

'Literally poking a bear'. Yes, that's what's being advocated. Literally.

That's not the point of the boycott. It's to stop Putin funding war. It's not to punish the ordinary people in their homes.

But of course it will, in what way does a British company selling stuff there help fund his war to any notable extent? It does potentially make it harder for people, a lot of who are horrified at what he is doing, to get hold of stuff, or end up paying much more as there's more limited access to stuff. I mean Unilever aren't a Russian company, they don't have standalone stores such as IKEA and that there- I just don't get it I guess.

@bellac11 did you mean to quote me there?

[quote Robotdott]@bellac11 did you mean to quote me there?[/quote]
Yes I was agreeing with what you were saying, that its not likely to push anyone to overthrow Putin. The ones that might have those feelings couldnt and the majority dont have those feelings anyway because they see Putin as correct in his actions

in what way does a British company selling stuff there help fund his war to any notable extent?

They pay taxes, they advertise (all tv is state owned currently), they boost the GDP of the country by providing employment.
They are participating in the financial well-being of the country. Providing opportunities and development growth.

I don't think that the removal of western countries goods and services is going to provide the basis of a popular revolt.
It does send a message to the very brave Russian's who are working against Putin that the west agrees the current government is seriously out of order.
It also sends a message to the oligarchs that letting Putin run unchecked will significantly impact Russia's growth and development.

It might be the least worst option. I agree that reducing Russian gas exports should also be looked at more.

That's not the point of the boycott. It's to stop Putin funding war. It's not to punish the ordinary people in their homes. except it does affect ordinary people. Or do you think these big companies are just funding the war and nothing else? Not selling their products? Not employing people who will lose their jobs, their homes etc if the companies pull out?

It absolutely impacts ordinary Russians.
However this isn't a random act.
Ordinary Ukrainians are suffering unimaginably at present with no end in sight.

I think to be fair, Putin will end up taking over Ukraine and put some puppet government in there. The war wont last long but that means in the meantime people will lose lives and homes and some wont be able to go back.

Although Putin paints the trigger as NATO, the reality is that the Ukraine contains huge wealth for Russia.

The only way that he can be stopped is by assassination.

If Russian people suffer as a result of Putin's actions then that absolutely can make a difference to his warmongering strategy. It hurts the economy and also influences Russian public opinion to the war. That is one of the points of sanctions, whether it is government's stopping buying oil from Russia or me choosing not to buy a Costa coffee in the hope that Coca Cola will pull out of doing business there.

Re the local Asda removing Unilever stock, someone I know works there and has been asked to do this so I know it's not a case of lines being out of stock.

@AlternativePerspective

Who did you boycott when the US and UK were invading Iraq?

The Labour Party.

Anyway, this thread has been a bit derailed.

Not everyone agrees that sanctions and boycotts are effective. But for those of us who do, could we add to my list at the top of the thread please.

Those who don't, feel free to debate the issue elsewhere or start your own thread.

Are Amazon still operating in Russia?

www.politico.com/news/2022/03/04/u-s-tech-russia-money-00014067?_amp=true

This is a article outlining the exposure of tech giants in Russia.

Amazon only has limited use of cloud services available in Russia.