Should people be able to officially identify as whatever they like?

[Whatdidisay]

With the news that Bristol university has issues guidance to staff on the correct use of pronouns for students identifying as cats (catgender) has it now gone too far?
Surely if someone seriously believes they are a cat, then they need a doctor and a reality check not pronouns and validation?

....plus, there have been some older transwomen who have been able to successfully claim (I believe backdated) their state pension from the age of 60, where natal females of their age would have qualified for it, but natal males had to wait until 65.

Personally, I reckon if you can self-identify as female and legally change your birth certificate accordingly, it would only make logical sense to be similarly able to identify as born 20 years earlier at the same time and bag yourself another couple of decades' backdated pension on top of the rest.

I would challenge anybody to convince me, using actual science and verifiable logic, why the former is considered reasonable and ensconced in law when the latter isn't.

For that matter, why are refugees and other immigrants wasting their time and energies and even risking their lives in fighting to be allowed to settle in the UK, when they could simply turn up, identify as 'British-born', get a 'corrected' BC and then be waved right on in to stay for life?

Please, somebody: tell me why you can re-identify and legally change one historically-recorded fact but be laughed at and turned away for others of a similar category, recorded at the same time?

If one is catgender, one does not care about pronouns.

One goes where one wants.

One shits in the neighbour’s garden.

One walks off abruptly if one’s companion is boring one.

At night, one pokes one’s companion in the face until said companion gets up and provides a snack.

To be TRUE Catgender, one must not give a toss about any of this pronouns nonsense and instead have a nice snooze whenever this becomes an option.

X-posted with Siobhan there.

Tom or Gib/ Molly (Queen if she's pregnant or nursing)

Surely correct pronouns for cat are Tom/she?

No - 'she' is the cat's mother (have cliches taught you nothing?!), so you're also guilty of misgenerationing there, you bad person, you....

they can identify as they so choose BUT certainly not officially which should be by birth sex.

Absolutely - however you identify socially is entirely up to you, but the official records need to only deal with facts.

I identify as a squirrel, behind closed doors I parade up and down with a strap-on bushy tail, calling myself Nutkin.

I identify as a squirrel, behind closed doors I parade up and down with a strap-on bushy tail, calling myself Nutkin.

Greetings this day! I am your online 'friend' whose work was discussed in the other recent thread. I have regularly filmed you doing this through your laptop camera and have harvested your entire contacts list. You just need to send me 1,000 bitcoins and there will be no need at all for me to email the footage to all of your friends and family

My god I hope it's true. It is same level ridiculous as all the gender id nonsense and will reflect poorly on the judgement of people going along with it.

Assigned human at birth of course, owing to the lack of fur and tail...

I can feel my inner Nan bubbling up. Again.

Or should that be Nyan…?

It's in the Telegraph, but behind a paywall - it's linked over on in the naughty corner www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/02/06/male-female-feline-bristol-university-guide-lectures-staff-neopronouns/

As well as cat genders, "Bristol’s guide explains that some people use "neopronouns such as Ze/Zir/Zirs"

They can also use emojis

"Emojiself pronouns are a subcategory of nounself pronouns, which are pronouns that, instead of using letters, utilize emojis. These pronouns are not intended to be pronounced out loud and are only intended for online communication. In spoken conversation one may or may not use pronouns that are based on the emoji."

I'd say students will have a lot of fun with this.

Makes me wonder where this is all heading.
Hopefully all this crap will just fizzle out when it goes out of fashion.
Attention seeking at its finest.

Oh my god this thread is brilliant
🤣🤣🤣
Really made me laugh 🤣

Chinny reckon 🧐

Let me stroke my whiskas.

At least now we have an answer to ‘what are your pronouns’ that will make the room guffaw with laughter and shout that the emperor has no clothes. Please let this madness stop.

The more this ideology is given its head, the more silly it makes itself look.
It's a completely logical extension of you are what you identify with. And completely gloriously daft.

People definitely should be able to identify as whatever they want. Next time I go to Sainsbury for some Tu clothes I will insist on changing in the vegetable aisle because I identify as a potato

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣genius!

I identify as a response vehicle.

Nee/Naw

Should MNers be able to easily identify all the trans-rights-paranoia threads so we can hide them asap?

That MN AMA session with MPs other day was ruined by the obsessive TRP lot. Such a shame.

@2X4B523P

I identify as a squirrel, behind closed doors I parade up and down with a strap-on bushy tail, calling myself Nutkin.

Is this you?

I do apologise for mis-German Sheparding you there.

I meant this one.

But surely if someone Assigned Human At Birth (AHAB) identifies as a cat and has altered nyanself cosmetically to match nyan internal cat essence, then nya would be transspecies, not transgender? It seems kind of speciesist to even call nya "catgender".

(OTOH, it's always a good time for some : "Batman is NOT a bat; he is a man dressed as a bat.")

I get the feeling this is similar to the "Winterval" myth.