Active discussions

Meet the Other Phone. A phone that grows with your child.

Meet the Other Phone.
A phone that grows with your child.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Talk
Chat

Join the discussion and chat with other Mumsnetters about everyday life, relationships and parenting.

Original poster

Levi Bellfield!!

115 replies

Ponyclubkick · 06/02/2022 10:38

He’s a piece of work isn’t he?!

The Russell murders was the 1st case that really stayed with me and shocked me as a teenager and I have followed it ever since.

I’d love for there to be a definitive answer and right the right person to be held accountable but Bellfield is a classic narcissist and psychopath and toying with this confession and all the details he’s given to get a bit of lime light and cause further distress is right up his street...

I read today what when he finally gave all the really awful details of Milly Dowlers murder he would only do so to female officers...make of rhat what you will!

I’ve also seen that the police believe he could be behind many other murders and assaults in the London’s area and beyond, I think of all the old crime watch reconstructions, cold cases that come into the press often and think which of those he could be behind and the poor families still waiting for answers...

OP posts:
onthinice · 06/02/2022 20:17

he says he knows things only the murderer would know. Can't say I believe him. 🙄

AlternativePerspective · 06/02/2022 20:23

I am not sure that Wikipedia is a credible source for establishing guilt or innocence...... nobody said it was did they?

The fact he was found guilty twice is though. The fact he spent time in prison before, had a history of violence and drug addiction absolutely prove he is a vile individual with absolutely no limits as to what he is capable of.

And this extract from the letter that Bellfield wrote:

“ "I guess if I'm honest it was a relief. I apologise to Stone and to the Russell family for my heinous acts. I was not well in the head during my reign of violence.” has fake written all over it.

Has he written similar to Milly Dowler’s family per chance?

AlternativePerspective · 06/02/2022 20:25

I mean are we to believe that Bellfield has suddenly had an attack of conscience? Why?

Although interestingly Stone will be considered for parole next year. Coincidence?

PoleFairy · 06/02/2022 20:26

I've believed it to be Levi Bellfield for years and years, since the idea was first floated when he was arrested for Millys murder. I remember Josie Russell could only recall a few things from the attack.

  1. The attacker was very, very tall and thick set. She recalled similar to her father. Levi Bellfield is 6ft and heavy built. similar to her father. Michael Stone is only just 5ft7 and was a thin heroin addict.
  2. She recalled the attacker had blocked their route with a "long white car". Bellfield drove a white estate. Michael Stone did not.
  3. I have heard from prison officers it is widely regarded within the justice system that Stone is innocent.
MissAmbrosia · 06/02/2022 20:28

I recall the Stone conviction being quite dodgy - no forensic evidence at all. Not sure about Bellfield though - not his normal type of victim or area.

PoleFairy · 06/02/2022 20:29

@Hearwego

Also Bellfield murdered lone women. The attack on the Russell family was quite different to Bellfields style.

Also, I don’t think Bellfield had any reason to be in that part of Kent on that day. He used to drive around in his van looking for potential victims, not walk around fields in the middle of no where.
I’m not convinced without knowing more.

He operated a car clamping business in the area and also picked up large amounts of drugs from kent which he returned to london to deal
RoseRedRoseBlue · 06/02/2022 20:35

@AlternativePerspective LB confessed to the Milly Dowler murder years ago.

foxlover47 · 06/02/2022 20:48

What disgusted me
Most about the report of what he wrote that I read today was how he said the
More compliant Lynn was then that was why he went on to kill them all ( except josie didn't die ) , how he killed the dog because she bit him, why wouldn't she , she was prob trying to protect her family just like Lynn would of been trying to not anger him and keep the kids safe , how dare he blame Lynn ,
Colin Sutton said he's a narcissist and attention seeker and doubts the credibility of the new confession.

AlternativePerspective · 06/02/2022 21:22

Apparently Bellfield also confessed to the murders in 2017 and then denied it.

Michael Stone sister hopeful over Russell murders appeal www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-42169307

TBH I’m don’t actually think the media should even be entertaining this. In the event he is prosecuted and Stone is exonerated, then and only then should the media be giving it any airtime.

As I see it both men have something to gain here.Bellfield stands to gain notoriety, and attention, and Stone, who is up for Parole next year stands to be seen as an innocent and possibly to gain a nice fat sum of money from the CPS or whoever it is he would sue,so he can fund his life of drugs and violence when he gets out.

YouHaveYourFathersBreasts · 06/02/2022 21:23

A) I wouldn’t believe anything LB says without some actual proof to back it up. He’s a psychopath who enjoys inflicting pain on people, especially women and I imagine this being brought up again in this way is going to hurt Josie Russell a lot. My thoughts are with her.

B) even if Michael Stone didn’t commit those murders he’s apparently a nasty piece of work anyway. Very nasty. I wouldn’t waste my time feeling too sorry for him…

Original poster
Ponyclubkick · 06/02/2022 21:47

I’ve been doing a bit of reading on this on and off all day and now wondering if either of the two did it

The girlfriend of LB statement, that he was with her all day seems highly credible. She was very helpful in on bringing a conviction in the Millly Dowler case so she has no reason to lie.

It has said that a cream car (LB had a car that colour was spotted on the area) but josie (according to Wikipedia) is adamant her family’s killer had a red car!

There was also hair and prints taken from the scene that have never been identified on the police database, surely LB would at that point been a match for previous crimes and even not how are there prints of he was wearing marigold gloves.

I’m not one for a pie in the sky theory but would LB and MS been able to have contact when in the same unit, it just seems weird after all this time he’s now ready to confess, it really doesn’t fit in with his narc MO

Something is just feeling off!

OP posts:
CovidCorvid · 06/02/2022 21:54

I agree something feels off. To kill two people in such a violent manner and not leave any dna evidence seems unlikely. Plus the dna which was found doesn’t match Stone. Wikipedia says the only evidence which was used to convict Stone was the statement of the criminal who Stone supposedly confessed to. I can’t find anything online about any other evidence. 🤷‍♀️ Josie’s statement about the car and description of the man don’t fit Stone, neither does a witness who saw someone who the police think was the suspect.

Krouse64 · 06/02/2022 22:07

Unfortunately I know both lb and his ex. She is a nice person whose life has been ruined by this scum. And trust me if she thought there was a possibility he was guilty she would be speaking to the police. But it was her birthday and she is adamant he was with her. Think the scum bag just gets off on being headline news

StellaGibs · 06/02/2022 22:27

I don't believe it yet, I will be interested to see what comes of it. I think he's just getting his kicks.

twilightermummy · 06/02/2022 22:32

I’m another who thinks that media shouldn’t have entertained this story.
I also think that scum of his nature should be let to rot in isolation for a couple of decades and then put to death. We need to toughen things up in this country as we are getting some truly horrific crimes and they seem to be happening more than ever right now.

bindud · 06/02/2022 22:49

He was a nasty piece of work even before he was convicted of the murders. Awful, despicable excuse for a human being, and quite how anyone can sit here and say they feel for him is beyond me.

It's bizarre!

wanttomarryamillionaire · 06/02/2022 23:46

I don't understand why people keep saying that MS has been tried twice and refused appeal etc etc. Do people actually believe that the police and the justice system want any proof that they have convicted and locked up the wrong man for 26 years? Not a chance! Can you imagine the compensation they will be forced to pay not only ms but all the other families of LB victims who would ALL still be alive if they had done their jobs properly? They are going to make it as hard as possible for MS to be proven innocent ( if he is). MS was a drug addict with severe mental health problems, LB is just a vile excuse of a human being.

AlternativePerspective · 07/02/2022 06:28

if MS was innocent, that’s a seperate matter for the CpS to address, it shouldn’t just be assumed because some psychopath fancies claiming the glory for a notorious crime.

And MS is an equally vile despicable human being, MH and drug problems are no excuse for fantasising about murdering women and children or putting your girlfriend in hospital.

wanttomarryamillionaire · 07/02/2022 10:06

@AlternativePerspective

if MS was innocent, that’s a seperate matter for the CpS to address, it shouldn’t just be assumed because some psychopath fancies claiming the glory for a notorious crime.

And MS is an equally vile despicable human being, MH and drug problems are no excuse for fantasising about murdering women and children or putting your girlfriend in hospital.

Thats the point though, the CPS and police will not investigate/address the issue without being forced to because they stand a chance of having to admit they jailed an innocent man and left a killer on the streets to commit more murders. According to every source i have read Bellfield gave evidence of the crime in his statement that only the killer would know. Now he may have beet at some points in the same prison as stone ( I don't know) but there is absolutely no way he would have been in a cell or shared space with stone because a prison wouldn't have two high profile murderers together. I also believe that Bellfield may have something to do with the murder of Billie joe jenkins.
Lookforwardtosummer · 07/02/2022 10:57

I remember this horrific crime as a teenager and it's haunted me over the years. That poor family and their little dog, what a wicked and evil act. Josie and Shaun are remarkable how they've tried so hard to get on in life after the murders.

AlternativePerspective · 07/02/2022 11:05

Thats the point though, the CPS and police will not investigate/address the issue without being forced to because they stand a chance of having to admit they jailed an innocent man and left a killer on the streets to commit more murders. According to every source i have read Bellfield gave evidence of the crime in his statement that only the killer would know. Now he may have beet at some points in the same prison as stone ( I don't know) but there is absolutely no way he would have been in a cell or shared space with stone because a prison wouldn't have two high profile murderers together. I also believe that Bellfield may have something to do with the murder of Billie joe jenkins. I think the fact that Bellfield and Stone were in prison together mitigates the “he’s said things only the killer would know,” line. Added to which he has A, made this confession before and then retracted it, and B, his ex, who detests him and was instrumental in his being brought to justice over Milly Dowler’s murder has testified that he was with her the entire day of the murder, so it is actually impossible that he could have committed these murders.

Personally I still believe Stone is guilty, but even if per chance he isn’t, LB’s alleged confession (Bering in mind it is still being said it is alleged) is irrelevant to any action regarding MS.

52andblue · 07/02/2022 11:23

@StScholastica

My thoughts are very much with Josie, a woman who has fought hard to recover and build a life for herself. For her sake, I wish today's news had not been so widely reported. Sad
Yes, I cannot imagine how hard it has been for Josie, for her Father, for all the other victims & their families. Ongoing Press can only be horrible for them. As for the two damaged & damaging 'men' being discussed, I don't have access to enough evidence to form an opinion. I do feel it is a mistake to let criminals of this kind communicate with each other in prison however.
Lookforwardtosummer · 07/02/2022 11:28

@PoleFairy

I remember reading ages ago that a man matching Stone's description (wiry build, short) was seen in a beige car and pulled up by a hedge in a hamlet near Chillenden acting strangely and depositing something in the bushes. The witness returned later to discover strips of bloodied towelling and a string bag which was identified as belonging to the Russell family.

Then again, Josie recalled that the perpetrator was tall, like her father.

KaptainKaveman · 07/02/2022 11:33

Sometimes I wonder what happens to a person to turn them into monsters like Bellfield. The total wickedness, followed by the game playing in order to torture the poor families even more. I just can't comprehend how someone can become so evil. Maybe it's not even worth trying to decipher that sort of psychology.
Unfortunately I wouldn't be surprised if LB is making it up - he craves notoriety.

inheritancetrack · 07/02/2022 11:44

I think Michael stone was convicted on dna evidence as well as circumstantial evidence. To me this is just more bellfield seeking attention and messing with the police and the family

Swipe left for the next trending thread