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donating body to medical science

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vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 29/01/2022 13:32

Interesting thread about not having a funeral on AIBU. I looked at donating my body but didn't sign up as my children were young and I thought a funeral would be needed for them to put a "hook" on my untimely death.

They are teens now, and know that two of my close relatives donated their bodies - who saw from the war and life what medicine could do and so they wanted to help train the next lot of medics.

I obediently wash my empty tins and sort my plastics and compost - my body is just a natural resource with a value after I'm done with it, so, I see donation to science as just an extension of recycling.

My bereaved relatives had a mixed response to having no funeral - some saw it as "it's his wish, he's doing a good thing" while some, the ones with a strong sense of faith, say they struggled without a service to say "goodbye".

I'm hoping to live a long time yet so I'll need to engineer conversation with my kids - a tricky topic over dinner one night, "hey kids, let's chat about me being dead and the interesting things that can be done with a corpse".

Anyone want to share their reasons for donating their body, or for definitely not wanting to donate their body; or have advice or insights about talking to your teens about your hopefully-not-yet-demise?

link to thread www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4466661-to-think-not-having-a-funeral-is-ok

link to donation page
www.rcseng.ac.uk/about-the-rcs/support-our-work/donate/donate-your-body-to-medical-science/

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Isgooglebroken · 29/01/2022 14:01

DGM, when she was around 60, tried to arrange to donate her body to science.

They declined 😂

She was pretty miffed but we thought it was hilarious. As it happens she ended up suffering from dementia and they don’t accept people with dementia. I did read a thread on here about someone who had a loved one who did donate their body. It sounded very well handled.

Hadalifeonce · 29/01/2022 14:04

My friend's parents both donated their bodies; there was a memorial service for each shortly after they died; it was very much like a funeral, just no coffin.

Letsallscreamatthesistene · 29/01/2022 14:09

I have used bodies that have been donated to medical science.

The bodies are treated respectfully in my experience. All the bodies ive had experience with have been cut in half, so the intestines have been taken out. I got some legs, and the torso and theres a sheet draped over the middle. I learnt how to put in airways and IO lines (which are like intravenous lines, but straight into bones). Im always very grateful to those that donate their bodies and think those that donate are very brave.

Crepuscularshadows · 29/01/2022 14:16

I've been to the memorial service (Catholic church service) for someone who donated their body. It's not either or, and for some people the presence of the body isn't the most important bit of the funeral.

NannyGythaOgg · 29/01/2022 15:35

[quote vivariumvivariumsvivaria]Interesting thread about not having a funeral on AIBU. I looked at donating my body but didn't sign up as my children were young and I thought a funeral would be needed for them to put a "hook" on my untimely death.

They are teens now, and know that two of my close relatives donated their bodies - who saw from the war and life what medicine could do and so they wanted to help train the next lot of medics.

I obediently wash my empty tins and sort my plastics and compost - my body is just a natural resource with a value after I'm done with it, so, I see donation to science as just an extension of recycling.

My bereaved relatives had a mixed response to having no funeral - some saw it as "it's his wish, he's doing a good thing" while some, the ones with a strong sense of faith, say they struggled without a service to say "goodbye".

I'm hoping to live a long time yet so I'll need to engineer conversation with my kids - a tricky topic over dinner one night, "hey kids, let's chat about me being dead and the interesting things that can be done with a corpse".

Anyone want to share their reasons for donating their body, or for definitely not wanting to donate their body; or have advice or insights about talking to your teens about your hopefully-not-yet-demise?

link to thread www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4466661-to-think-not-having-a-funeral-is-ok

link to donation page
www.rcseng.ac.uk/about-the-rcs/support-our-work/donate/donate-your-body-to-medical-science/[/quote]
Re the chatting with your kids
I didn't broach it out of the blue, nor did I go into the whole thing all at once. When they were teens and someone famous died, I just mentioned casually that I didn't want a lot of fuss when I died and found the idea of a funeral unnecessary - and then changed the subject.

As it happened we had Diana's death when mine were teens so there was plenty of opportunity for discussion without it being too personal. (You will have the Queen's death sometime in the not too distant future).

As they have got older still there have been plenty of deaths of famous people to spark the conversation (George Michael and Amy had the most relevance for them).

They know that I see my body as a vessel and that I don't care what happens to it after I am gone, they know that I like the idea of ashes being spread in a specific place, but that I won't know or care when it actually happens, and they know I think money spent on funerals is money wasted. All these discussions have taken place quite naturally mainly, I think, because there has been no reason to think of it happening any time soon.

I think this is important. Death is totally natural and happens to us all. Leaving discussions until people are ill makes them much harder.

TheNoiseIsDrivingMeMad · 29/01/2022 15:52

My dad left his body to medical science, 22 years ago. He was 81. My husband and I signed up for body donation, years ago. I'm hoping that when the time comes, we'll be taken.

52andblue · 29/01/2022 15:59

@Isgooglebroken

DGM, when she was around 60, tried to arrange to donate her body to science.

They declined 😂

She was pretty miffed but we thought it was hilarious. As it happens she ended up suffering from dementia and they don’t accept people with dementia. I did read a thread on here about someone who had a loved one who did donate their body. It sounded very well handled.

I wonder if there are other MH / health criteria for a body being 'declined'
vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 29/01/2022 16:00

@Isgooglebroken

DGM, when she was around 60, tried to arrange to donate her body to science.

They declined 😂

She was pretty miffed but we thought it was hilarious. As it happens she ended up suffering from dementia and they don’t accept people with dementia. I did read a thread on here about someone who had a loved one who did donate their body. It sounded very well handled.

Bloody hell. I've had plenty of body related rejections in my time, but, oooft, being "swiped left" by the medical science people would sting!

From memory, infection, cancer, dementia and stuff like that rules you out. Death while ventilated from eg accident would mean that I'd maybe be suitable for organ donation which would also rule me out.

But, I'd take a "no" personally!

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DobbyTheHouseElk · 29/01/2022 16:01

They don’t take your body if you die on a bank holiday.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 29/01/2022 16:01

Thanks, @NannyGythaOgg that's sage advice.

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gogohm · 29/01/2022 16:04

Your family can have a memorial service shortly after you die and then the university or research centre will arrange a funeral to which family are invited at the time when they no longer require you so to speak ... I've been to one and it was a lovely service with just a few close family and friends plus the medical students who were involved (and their supervisor plus a couple of coordinators from the department)

Francescaisstressed · 29/01/2022 16:07

My grandad wanted to donate his body and was also declined. I don't think the process is as easy as you expect it to be.
I would also say that when donating, its important to know that they decide in what way your body could be used. For example they may chose to chop off a limb and use that and bin the rest of your body....it can be very wasteful and if day some aren't shown the level of respect that you think. If you see the body as a vessel only that's fine but for people who think that they'll be used by med students and taken care of I'd be a bit more wary.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 29/01/2022 16:08

Ok, so you need to have a plan B for body disposal as well as filling out the forms incase you do fit the criteria.

Makes sense.

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Lucinda7 · 29/01/2022 17:06

I have signed up to donate my brain for research. I am signed up to a specific neurology hospital. Any other parts are ok to be donated but the brain is my priority. My family know.

cherryonthecakes · 29/01/2022 17:11

Organ donation came up in conversation because my dd applied for her provisional license around the time that organ donation became opt out.

I would like my organs donated if they are useable but my dd (who is off to uni to study a science subject) is adamant that she wants her body donated to science rather than her organs donated.

Isgooglebroken · 29/01/2022 18:32

Yes poor DGM took it as a huge rejection. She lived to 96 and only had dementia the last few years.
Other than a dicky knee no other issues so couldn’t understand why they didn’t want her.

@cherryonthecakes why donate her body but not organs? Just curious as I have a family member who is a transplant recipient.

MyHusbandTheIdiot · 29/01/2022 18:42

I think v. high or low BMI is also a potential criteria for rejection.

At my medical school there is an annual memorial service attended by students, faculty and family of the donated bodies used in the anatomy department that year. It’s an absolutely lovely event and genuinely one of the highlights of my time there. It’s a bit of a rite of passage and the students take it very seriously, EVERYONE goes.

I would definitely consider doing it myself.

SantaHat · 29/01/2022 18:51

I have always wanted to donate my body to the Body Farm at the University of Tennessee but thinks it’s unlikely as I’m in England and I think they have too many requests these days.

If anyone wants to read about their amazing forensic anthropology research facility:
the-line-up.com/the-body-farm-tennessee

Squills · 29/01/2022 18:54

After reading Professor Sue Black’s book ‘All that remains’ I decided that I will donate my body. I’d like to have donated it to her Prof Black’s anatomy department but it would involve having my family transporting it up to Scotland. I don’t want to burden them with arranging that so anywhere will do. I’d like to be of some use rather than being buried or burned.

thenewduchessoflapland · 29/01/2022 19:00

Well if someone's body is used for medical science isn't their body eventually released for interment or cremation anyway once their done with it?

Gumbo · 29/01/2022 19:02

I've signed up to donate my body when I die, I think it's an excellent idea and saves a huge amount of money for my family who won't have to pay for a coffin etc. There are quite a few reasons why the body may not be accepted when the time comes though... dementia (as pp have said), open wounds, some cancers etc - so there is no guarantee it'll definitely happen.

My family are quite happy with me doing whatever I choose, and I'm happy that I get to give something back to the hospital that saved my life a couple of years ago.

teaandtoastwithmarmite · 29/01/2022 19:02

My DF wanted to do this and he spoke about it for years before he died in 2020. Unfortunately they couldn't accept it because of Covid but we were ok with his decision.

EllaMinnowPee · 29/01/2022 21:28

I have visions of medical students twatting about with my boobs or legs or god knows what. High jinks etc

I mean, I'm sure they don't (they do) but it's something to bear in kind isn't it? If you're fine with someone messing about with you in a 'fun' way and fallows type humour then fine.

Letsallscreamatthesistene · 29/01/2022 21:36

@EllaMinnowPee

I have visions of medical students twatting about with my boobs or legs or god knows what. High jinks etc

I mean, I'm sure they don't (they do) but it's something to bear in kind isn't it? If you're fine with someone messing about with you in a 'fun' way and fallows type humour then fine.

Some do...
BooksAndHooks · 29/01/2022 21:40

I had something similar in mind but they aren’t currently accepting any more people signing up to donate. If it opens up again in future I would definitely do it. Similarly I’ve always been interested in the body farms used in America for forensic training and research and if they legalise those here in future I would donate to this.