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Would you ask dd to not work in restaurant this weekend?

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thetinsoldier · 16/12/2021 18:42

Dd 18 has PT job in restaurant. Would I be U to ask dd to cancel her shifts Fri and Sat night? We are planning to see family in England over Xmas, 400 miles away, leaving Monday.

We have booked holiday cottage, Tesco order etc and I don't want to have to cancel if dd catches Covid!!

Help - wwyd?

OP posts:
Unreasonabubble · 16/12/2021 19:55

@NovemberNovemberDarkNights I think you will find that @GingerbreadandJellytots was being sarcastic. My pet hate but I recognised it.

People cannot stop doing their jobs just "in case". We have all been assured that Omnicom is less fatal that the other variants. I hope to goodness it is. WFH if you can says the Government but my boss is not allowing that as he says it is not necessary. Working/not working is not enshrined by law. It is what we wish to do or make of it and how much of a stand we wish to take.

Unreasonabubble · 16/12/2021 19:57

Omicron spelling mistake sorry.

nosyupnorth · 16/12/2021 19:58

All well and good to say the manager should have hired more staff, but all those other staff might also want to take off to save their christmas and there mums are saying "Well can't you ask thetinsoldier jr to cover for you?" - in the end somebody's got to do the job.

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Yuledo · 16/12/2021 19:58

When/if the manager has to let people go/reduce hours because of low bookings over the next few months, he’ll be looking for who are the most reliable and flexible staff to keep.

KilmordenCastle · 16/12/2021 20:10

I work in a restaurant. How tf do you "cancel" a shift? It doesn't work like that. You can just not turn up (and get fired), pull a sickie (and get fired if your boss finds out you were actually on holiday) or ask to swap shifts with someone else. If no one wants to swap shifts and you don't want to risk getting fired then you have go to work.

I know that you've posted that you get what everyone is saying but I'm seriously gobsmacked that the original thought even went through your head tbh.

CampagVelocet · 16/12/2021 20:14

You're completely clueless OP. She will lose her job if she announces with a day's notice that she's not bothering turning up to work. Your cute family Christmas won't be so picture perfect then. Don't pressure her into this.

Dontdrinkcola · 16/12/2021 20:20

Did we establish if OP works?

ilovesooty · 16/12/2021 20:29

@Dontdrinkcola

Did we establish if OP works?
She has her own business, apparently.
Pebbledashery · 16/12/2021 20:34

Op.. Get a grip please.
Be proud of your daughter and stop being entitled and stop putting your daughter in a difficult position.

Pinetreesfall · 16/12/2021 21:32

You do realise that your holiday might get cancelled if there is covid case in your accommodation prior to your stay! We have to leave our buildings clear 36 hours if covid is reported!
So, just let your daughter carry on - Covid can be caught anywhere!

MrsLargeEmbodied · 16/12/2021 21:40

i dont blame you op, really,
but prepare to be flamed here!

she will wear a mask no doubt

it is strange times we are in

thickthighs73 · 16/12/2021 21:43

Another ridiculous thread! Yes of course YABU. Imagine if everyone selfishly did this.

SoapyWit · 16/12/2021 21:44

YABU I manage a place like this with staff saying they are perfectly well and off out on various trips but don't want to risk THEIR Christmas by working. We're now hugely short staffed as I can't obviously force them to work. The rest of us, including people with genuine mental health issues that existed prior to covid, older staff in their sixties and one who is registered disabled, are having to do double shifts to cover these people in order for the business to survive.
All the teachers and medics I know didn't just call in with a case of the heebie jeebies. They got on with their jobs in the face of everything and before there was a vaccination.

thickthighs73 · 16/12/2021 21:49

@SoapyWit

YABU I manage a place like this with staff saying they are perfectly well and off out on various trips but don't want to risk THEIR Christmas by working. We're now hugely short staffed as I can't obviously force them to work. The rest of us, including people with genuine mental health issues that existed prior to covid, older staff in their sixties and one who is registered disabled, are having to do double shifts to cover these people in order for the business to survive. All the teachers and medics I know didn't just call in with a case of the heebie jeebies. They got on with their jobs in the face of everything and before there was a vaccination.
Well said
lastrolo10 · 16/12/2021 21:51

I see your point. I don’t really know to be honest.
It depends whether or not you agree with the principle, that it’s always ok to sacrifice work.

imagine say you waited six months to get an expensive cut and colour. It’s booked for this weekend, your hairdresser cancels incase she catches covid.

You have a plumber coming to fix a leak/blocked pipe. He cancels incase he catches covid.

You are going out to a restaurant, with family
Members you have not seen. The meal is awful as there are no where near enough staff.

What if teachers opted not to go in for the the next few of days to protect their Christmas?

What if a doctor or nurse doesn’t turn
Up at their shift? To protect their family Christmas?

Are these things all ok? Or is your logic just because it is a small part time job.
Are you happy to reassure your dd that it’s ok for her to shirk responsibility now, but in future if she has what some would consider a more responsible job, then she cannot take this attitude.

I think only you can decide this one. You do have my sympathies. I think I’d also consider how the restaurant treats her generally.

emmetgirl · 16/12/2021 21:55

I own a restaurant and staff not coming in at really short notice causes a lot of problems and increases the workload for everyone else. I have to say it's mainly people your DD's age that do this so if I'm honest I'd rather not employ them. I much prefer slightly older people.

toomuchlaundry · 16/12/2021 21:56

DS(16) has a part-time job in hospitality, I have bought him some FFP2 masks which help protect him (although I know they are not 100%)

NovemberNovemberDarkNights · 17/12/2021 10:40

[quote Unreasonabubble]**@NovemberNovemberDarkNights* I think you will find that @GingerbreadandJellytots* was being sarcastic. My pet hate but I recognised it.

People cannot stop doing their jobs just "in case". We have all been assured that Omnicom is less fatal that the other variants. I hope to goodness it is. WFH if you can says the Government but my boss is not allowing that as he says it is not necessary. Working/not working is not enshrined by law. It is what we wish to do or make of it and how much of a stand we wish to take.[/quote]
@Unreasonabubble

Yes, that's why I asked who'd pissed on her chips!

We have all been assured that Omnicom is less fatal that the other variants

No, no we haven't! Not at all. They don't know how it will affect people here. SA's demographic is vastly different than our own.

Your boss isn't a virologist! (I assume) So he should be allowing WFH unless he has a very good reason why your job cannot be done from home. Not just because he wants you under his thumb.

Unreasonabubble · 17/12/2021 10:49

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TallulahsCurse · 17/12/2021 10:54

@thetinsoldier

But when she agreed to work weeks ago, the situation with omicron wasn't anything like it is now. I think our family xmas is more important than her job... 🤔
Wow. What a ridiculous example to set to your child about a good work ethic!
CovidCorvid · 17/12/2021 10:55

YABU.

DD also works in a restaurant/bar and will be working this weekend and she's clinically vulnerable. If all the staff refused to work the restaurant would have to close, potentially go bust and she loses her job along with everyone else. And even if that doesn't happen they might sack her.

CovidCorvid · 17/12/2021 10:57

And I consider DD's part time job and also consider not letting people down more important than our family xmas.

sofakingcool · 17/12/2021 11:03

[quote thetinsoldier]@fairynick, I'm sorry to hear that! Hope you feel ok.

Dd is on a zero hours contract so no, I don't think she'd get any sick pay at all...[/quote]
She's entitled to sick pay even on a zero hour contract, as long as she reaches the criteria

LindaEllen · 17/12/2021 11:07

What would happen if everyone refused to work from now so they could avoid a Christmas isolation?

AnotherOneWithNoGoodName · 17/12/2021 11:24

This is going to be their busiest weekend, so if she asks they will most likely say no.
Was does she do? Can she ask to be, eg seating people instead of waiting tables so more people she comes into contact with wear masks?