What is your favourite conspiracy theory?

[julieca]

I love the crazy conspiracy theories. So my favourite ones are that birds arent real and that Paul McCartney is dead and the man we see now is a lookalike.
What about you?

@julieca

I first saw people saying the Queen was dead during cop 26. I could believe that it might not be announced until after such an important event in Britain. But there would have been zero reasons to still keep it secret.

It would never be concealed. Whatever the circumstances. No point.

@daisyNGO. it’s all nonsense
9/11 was not fake I had a friend in New York at the time he saw it with his own eyes

It’s other people who believe the wrong thing not me

I believe that Jill Dando was murdered due to uncovering all the stuff that we now no to be true about the BBC , Jimmy Saville and the rest

That George Cloony is in a long term relationship with Randy Grueber husband of Cindy Crawford and his business partner
I keep reading about this every year or so

@ArrrMeHearties

I love me a conspiracy theory thread for late night reading

Me too,

You’ve think you’ve read them all, and then comes up with something new. Happy googling everyone!

Love this thread. @TheRealMrsGrissom there are lots of stories on Popbitch about Stevie Wonder not really being blind! Easily navigating to & hoovering up huge lines of coke etc.

On July 4, 2020, Florida congressional candidate KW Miller took to Twitter with a mind-blowing revelation. Beyoncé is not African American. she was an Italian woman named Ann Marie Lastrassi.

It was probably this, about Henrietta Lacks and the immortal cell line, known as HeLa, that came from Lacks's cervical cancer cells in 1951

@mowly77

Love this thread. *@TheRealMrsGrissom* there are lots of stories on Popbitch about Stevie Wonder not really being blind! Easily navigating to & hoovering up huge lines of coke etc.

Coke has a very strong distinctive smell, don't think that would prove someone isn't blind!

That Sandy Hook didnt happen and they are all actors.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting_conspiracy_theories

Awful thing to think.

the safest place in an atomic explosion is directly underneath the explosion
I think this is caused by people mishearing/misinterpreting when others say "if a atomic bomb explodes I hope I am underneath at ground zero" aka so I die instantly.
Someone I worked with really believed this

@yaldy

Never heard of the Finland one

It's an absolute hoot!

https://www.reddit.com/r/finlandConspiracy/comments/52f5ae/thefinlanddconspiracyanddallyouuneedtooknow/?utmsource=share&utmmmedium=iosapp&utmmname=iossmf

This is hilarious... why don't they just try to... go there? 🤣

[quote Heatherjayne1972]@daisyNGO. it’s all nonsense
9/11 was not fake I had a friend in New York at the time he saw it with his own eyes

It’s other people who believe the wrong thing not me[/quote]
Yes I know
I was bereaved from it

I called attention to a pp who said it was an illusion and you said you have friends saying the same so I wondered what they thought of the bereaved and the witnesses.

Katie I don't know why the flat earthers aren't peering over the edge
There should be excellent photos!

@ItchyKondera

that Neil Buchanan is Banksy

That is my favourite CT ever!

So, how do we know if evidence is irrefutable?

When it is corroborated.

We have to trust a source.

Facts rarely rely on once source of proof.

How can we be 100% sure that source is correct? None of us know, unless we were there.

By corroborating.

Doesn't that make the media opinion based?

Largely, yes. Depends on which particular branch of “the media” you are referring to. When CNN reports “the president said x in his press conference” and it has been witnessed by everyone in the room and broadcast to millions, that is a fact. When they take a statement the president has allegedly made or has been seen to make, and it is snipped and contextualised as the president meaning something different, that is opinion. When BBC sports says that Ronaldo scored the winning goal in today’s match and 76,000 people saw it happen, that is a fact. When they say he was off his game and could have scored the winning goal, that is opinion. When Jennie Bond says “the queen has released a statement” that is fact. When Dan Wooton says “a palace source has revealed” it is very likely a opinion, and cannot be considered a verified fact.

Could they be just one big conspiracy theory?

Only if you are unable to understand and then discern the difference between fact and opinion.

On July 4, 2020, Florida congressional candidate KW Miller took to Twitter with a mind-blowing revelation. Beyoncé is not African American. she was an Italian woman named Ann Marie Lastrassi.

Given the number of cases of this kind of situation actually being proven to be true, it’s not entirely out of the question. I’m guessing they have no real proof though.

@loveandkindness

"Facts are indisputable. They are known, evidence based and proven."

Unless we are there to see an event for our own eyes can we always trust the source?

Scientific 'evidence' has been maniupulated over the years and spouted as fact. In fact, the very nature of science is to continue to change what it once saw as fact as more evidence and a wider perspective becomes clearer.

Is the media always correct when they dish out one fact after another?

The BBC showed the funeral of Sir Jimmy Saville, who was buried in state. They stated as fact what a great man he was.

Facts I learned in 'A' level Physics in the late 60s have been disproved, science is a fluid subject, it will inevitably evolve, look at where we are now and where we were in the MIddle Ages.

there is a large middle ground between completely made up and the truth. No shortage of evidence that we the public are not fed the truth on a huge variety of issues. I always start from 'who gains from this info/situation'. I don't necessarily change my actions though.

So covid ....if it did accidentally lab escape. But US scientists involved in funding and working with that lab so knew risks very early. Hence huge response/cover up. I think it probably panned out better for the pandemic than they thought it might (not disregarding all the deaths but governments clearly had advance warnings it could be worse. Look up Theory of Gain experiments).

Having worked briefly in PR I can assure you it's all manipulation for gain. EVerythIng we are publicly told. Its not fact. But not without fact. Have some healthy scepticism but also sometimes its better not to go down that rabbit hole and continue in blissful ignorance! Most of us are Plebs and knowing the truth will do us no good.

So another rabbit hole topic is Nazis fleeing to South America. Its proven for many known war criminals. Lots of books etc. Did it include Hitler? I think yes.

I would love science to prove the world is flat and dinosaurs fake...that would cheer me up. Dont care either way though. We are probably in a simulation.

@Twinstudy hmm I’m not sure it does. Unless you have had extra-special scented cocaine. Anyway the story wasn’t about that it was more - only someone who wasn’t blind could have done what he did. Multiple stories along those lines anyway. Not saying I believe them!

The Hilaria Baldwin thing was just hilarious! I especially loved the video of her pretending not to know how to say cucumber.

I think someone as high profile as Beyonce would get found out though.

Facts I learned in 'A' level Physics in the late 60s have been disproved, science is a fluid subject

Out of interest which ones in particular? Certainly a lot of what was taught as gospel at A level was a gross oversimplification of the state of knowledge a topic and you’d get to Uni and discover that “ah, it doesn’t work like that”…

it will inevitably evolve, look at where we are now and where we were in the MIddle Age

True, but you hope science (at least the Physical sciences) converging on reality over the centuries (whatever that is)…..Aristotle>Newton> Einstein….

That Finland article was a hoot!

@Werehamster

I also think it is extremely unlikely that Diana was murdered.

It would have been much easier to kill her and make it look like suicide.

To kill someone by car crash is extremely unreliable. To do so on foreign soil is extremely risky and to do so in the middle of Paris in front of a pack of paparazzi with cameras is utter madness. An accident seems much more likely.

Suicide..... cf David Kelly.

Definitely dubious that one.

Isn't that what the Christian fundamentalists do when determining the date of the Second Coming?

Christian fundamentalists - i.e. those who literally believe the Bible - don't determine the date of the Second Coming at all. It clearly says that nobody knows the day or the hour. It's mainly the doomsday cults and those with 'extra-Biblical' views who do that. The ones with more 'sense' will pick a date well after they themselves will have died, but there are plenty who will say that it's X date, without a shadow of a doubt, and then keep revising the date, with each new date being 'definitely' the one.

Edgar C. Whisenant (interestingly also a former NASA engineer) wrote and published a book about why the Rapture HAD TO happen in 1988. I don't think it's in the bestseller lists nowadays.