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RIP Ava White, 12 yr old stabbed Liverpool City Centre

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missmeg3leg · 26/11/2021 09:23

www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/updates-police-remain-scene-after-22281464

No words for the state of knife crime in our nation

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Babyroobs · 27/11/2021 01:51

Just another truly shocking act of violence in the news this week. Of course her age makes it all the more shocking. The speed at which violence seems to escalate, the same as the neighbour who stabbed the parents in Somerset. It's all truly shocking.

gofg · 27/11/2021 02:56

Poor girl - R.I.P. Ava. Heartbreaking for her family, such a waste of a young life.

OrchidPetalsFalling · 27/11/2021 07:31

It’s so heartbreaking. Such a young age. I can’t imagine being 12 and actually factoring knife crime into my worries.

EsmaCannonball · 27/11/2021 10:23

The 'verbal argument' aspect of the reporting is concerning me. We don't yet know what happened of course, but the language seems potentially victim-blaming. It could be the case of a group of boys harassing a group of girls and then getting angry when the girls talk back.

Knife amnesties aren't necessarily a bad idea but ultimately they are a PR exercise. The real problem is that there are a significant number or people, mainly young men, out there who actually enjoy being intimidating, who actually enjoy violence, and who have the mindset where killing someone over nothing is a normal thing to do. I don't know what the answers are but, while we need to do all we can to prevent parents and society from raising children this way, once someone becomes a criminal the punishment needs to reflect the weight of the crime. There are lots of people from deprived or abusive backgrounds whose experiences make them kinder and more empathetic adults.

Foolsrule · 29/11/2021 18:57

I really wish there was a bigger focus on it almost always being a male who attacks a female. Prisons are full of men, there are so few women incarcerated. And yet we women pay taxes that fund men when they are put away for killing us, for murdering us, for abusing us.

Jengachamp · 30/11/2021 11:04

When looking at the determinants of violence we need to look at deprivation, poverty, chronic underfunding of youth services...
www.facebook.com/realmendontcarryknives/

There is work in Liverpool to tackle knife crime in young people
www.merseysidevrp.com/

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