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To cancel Christmas? Need advice

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Kanfuzed123 · 11/11/2021 13:47

I need advice on what to do around x mas. It’s coming up and it’s bringing me anxiety.

This will be the first Christmas with out DF- he tragically and heartbreakingly passed away this summer. Truth is I’ve not dealt with it, not seeing him at Xmas will be an emotional gut punch. He always cooked Xmas dinner and took it very seriously. He never asked for gifts, just if I would make him some biscuits. He saved the tins and always mooned over the biscuits. (God tearing up a little bit typing this, this detail isn’t strictly relevant but just to illustrate how hard it will be).

Christmas was always an immediate family affair, grandparents (now deceased) DF (now deceased) M, B and I. There is no extended family M is an only child. M,B and I have a complicated relationship. I do not have pleasant memories of my teen years with regards to M and B (I received a lot of physical discipline which often B was allowed to participate in, a lot of name calling and taunting from both, often together with regards to appearance, intellect, weight etc- I do know now this was abusive). To pre empt any questions about where my dad was at this time DF lived abroad at this time. M cut off all communication to him, blocked all incoming and outgoing calls from his number, we were allowed one supervised phonecall a week on speaker (to and from her mobile), back in the days of dial up Internet access was limited. He didn’t know the extent of what was happening. After returning to the UK DF and M lived together and their relationship was dire.

M Is still v v harsh on me, there is a clear double standard between B and I.

I am married with a 2 year old and soon to be a newborn (still cooking but receiving eviction notice shortly). By the time x mas roles around ill have a 27 month old and at max a one month old. We are also a Muslim family (my husband, kids and I), so in ourselves we don’t celebrate x mas. We participated in my families x mas celebrations (ie big roast, TV and gifts) out of deference to them. M lives 3 hours away so we’d visit for a few days, as was the preference. I understand some Muslims who read this might find it abhorrent that we participated in their x mas celebrations but we ate veggie and anything else would have hurt them. But point here is we don’t do decor ourselves, but we will have a roast (love a roast in general) and watch movies and eat chocolates.

So flash forward to now and what to do which is the part that’s causing anxiety.

Do I go to her house? I feel like hauling a toddler and a newborn on a 3 hr drive is going to be exhausting. M’s house is large but not set up for kids or even visitors. 4th bedroom has been converted into an entertainment room, my childhood bedroom has a single bed and lots of furniture. M’s room is cramped with extra furniture too. So basically space is a big issue for 2 kids to sleep. There is also the drive down, knowing how sleep deprived we’ll be. Last c mas we went and now 2 year old didn’t settle to sleep til 7am (new environment and M watching tv til 2am kept waking her up) and it was awful. M is not the helping hand type so didn’t provide any assistance or support so we could eat or rest- it’s just not her style. House is also quite unsafe from a baby/ toddler proof perspective. Plus being there without my dad will be like taking a bullet. I’ll probably have to do some of the cooking also. It just sounds like it’s going to be exhausting.

So what about hosting at my house? Well we’d have to give up our bedroom which is fine we have a spare but M doesn’t like the spare bed. That will solve the DD sleep issue, newborn will be as newborn is. But we’ll be stuck cooking an x mas dinner and looking after 2 kids my mum and her dog. Again helping hand is not her thing it won’t happen. She stayed with us after DF passed away and she was difficult to say the least. She will also kick up a huge fuss that we don’t decorate the house for x mas. There will also be the expectation that I invite and host my brother, which I do not want to do as tried to attack me during this pregnancy and Cheated DF out of money when he was vulnerable. She also always looks for any opportunity to put the boot into my husband, anything and everything. So I do feel for him here, as he does bend over backwards to try and be accommodating and it gets thrown back in his face.

Or do I just say x mas this year will be too much? as both scenarios will be incredibly stressful. But also it’s the first x mas without my dad, even though M isn’t particularly nice to me, big empty house on x mas and being alone… god that sounds f’ing awful and I don’t want to inflict that one anyone plus I’ll never hear the end of it.

To pre empt any questions about B. He lives 20 mins from her with his fiancé but it’s v v unlikely he would host her, he’d go to his in-laws. He wouldn’t stay or invite her to stay after DF passed away (when she came back from our house) But he’s subject to a different set of standards than me so it’s acceptable.

If you made it to the bottom, I’m impressed lol. Thank you! Appreciate it’s a long one but I really could use some advice on what would you do?

OP posts:
Cam2020 · 14/11/2021 08:35

Bloody hell, OP, don't go anywhere near them and don't have any qualms about doing so. Protect yourself, you've got enough going on and they sound toxic.

WhatAHexIGotInto · 14/11/2021 08:49

Cut these people out of your life OP. Honestly. You won't regret it. Block their numbers. If your brother comes anywhere near you, contact the police. He's a danger to you.

TillyTopper · 14/11/2021 08:59

I think you need to ask yourself why you are still even thinking about spending xmas with these people. Please, just concentrate on your little family and enjoy a quiet time doing some lovely seasonal things together.

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Naughtynovembertree · 14/11/2021 08:59

I've seen too many situations where a nasty brother is worshipped by adoring mother to the detriment of a daughter, I'd leave them to it.

Kanfuzed123 · 14/11/2021 15:54

Enter streams of abusive texts from B, then when blocked emails, about how he is ‘working and how M is my fucking problem’ not his and need to sort it. That I’m making up excuses and going out of my way to not see her. Turns out his fiancé and him split and he’s living back with her, yet is choosing to pick up and extra shift In a pub on c mas day. Lol typical.

I’m also a ‘fucking whore’ apparently ❤️ Safe to say he’s off the x mas card list, and that will be the last exchange of words we ever have.

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TabithaTumbler · 14/11/2021 16:28

Well that’s sorted then, isn’t it?
Your brother can’t work at the pub all day and night over Christmas so him and your mum get to spend the Christmas period together.

I’d go nc with the both of them and enjoy Christmas with your new little family.

Lottapianos · 14/11/2021 22:00

'Safe to say he’s off the x mas card list, and that will be the last exchange of words we ever have.'

Well done. He sounds absolutely appalling

Newestname002 · 14/11/2021 22:21

@Lottapianos

'Safe to say he’s off the x mas card list, and that will be the last exchange of words we ever have.'

Well done. He sounds absolutely appalling

Absolutely the right response, @Kanfuzed123 for both vile people. Let them stew together and focus on your own little family. Do let your husband support you in staying away from them and cutting communication. 🌹
Kanfuzed123 · 15/11/2021 09:49

….and then I got shortly after both barrels from M. she did c mas with a 5 year old and a 3 month old so doesn’t understand why I’m making excuses. Accused of weaponising dd, of being the most hateful person on the planet, jealous of b, disgracing my fathers legacy… you name it. All for asserting boundaries. Classic narc.

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Skiptheheartsandflowers · 15/11/2021 09:59

@Kanfuzed123

….and then I got shortly after both barrels from M. she did c mas with a 5 year old and a 3 month old so doesn’t understand why I’m making excuses. Accused of weaponising dd, of being the most hateful person on the planet, jealous of b, disgracing my fathers legacy… you name it. All for asserting boundaries. Classic narc.
Well, if you're such a terrible person, they surely wouldn't want to spend Christmas with you anyway! So it's better for everyone that you stay put! Wink
Lottapianos · 15/11/2021 10:05

I'm so sorry OP. It's bloody horrible having to constantly defend yourself against people like this, especially when they're your own family. Nothing will ever be good enough for your mother from the sounds of it. She certainly does sound like a narc. You do not have to take any more of her crap. I know everyone is saying cut them out and put your own family first, and of course that's right, but I just wanted to acknowledge that this stuff bloody hurts and it's shit, and fighting it off takes its toll on you x

Beautiful3 · 15/11/2021 10:08

Wow, look at the way they're responding to you. Its not normal. Normal people do not behave in that way. You've done the right thing. You would never make them happy, no matter what you did. You are not here on this planet to be their servant, who they abuse. You are here to be free and live your life with your lovely children and husband. Honestly, I'd cut all contact with bother your mother and brother. You shouldn't have them around your children.

Skeumorph · 15/11/2021 10:11

OP this is where you just block them both. No contact.

These people should not in in your childrens' lives. Full stop.

Antsgomarching · 15/11/2021 10:13

Cut them off, seriously the peace you feel will be immense. It doesn’t make you a bad person, also while you feel bad for your mum to be alone as an elderly person during xmas did she ever feel any empathy for you when you were a vulnerable little child? Google FOG.

Just say”we aren’t doing xmas” then don’t bother with them anymore.

Antsgomarching · 15/11/2021 10:15

Ok just saw your last message - just cut them off completely. Enjoy your roast with your family 💐

TheGonnagle · 15/11/2021 10:19

Well done you. It’s so easy to buckle under the weight of being the scapegoat of the family. Always the person to ‘smooth it over’, ‘take the moral high ground’, ‘make life easier for everyone’.
But… Bollocks.
This is never going to change, they are never going to become decent people that treat you with kindness or respect. You will always be the scapegoat, and he will always be the bullying golden child.
I’m so sorry for the loss of your father, to lose your only ally in such a dysfunctional family is a really hard time. But it does set you free in a sense, to shake off the rest of them and move on.
Congratulations on the imminent arrival, stay home and enjoy the new born loveliness (and exhaustion!).
Also for what it’s worth, Christmas was pinched from the pagans, who celebrate the return of the light that we start to see after the solstice. It’s a time for new beginnings and optimism, with lights and candles and feasting to brighten the depths of winter. Perhaps a very fitting time for you to set yourself free from the guilty shackles of your birth family and to look forward to the future with the new little family you are building for yourself.

“May you find peace in the promise of the solstice night,
That each day forward is blessed with more light.
That the cycle of nature, unbroken and true,
Brings faith to your soul and well-being to you.
Rejoice in the darkness, in silence find rest,
And may the days that follow be abundantly blessed.”

freckles20 · 15/11/2021 10:34

I'm so sorry for your loss OP.

I am also sorry that your Mum and brother have treated you so badly- in the past and now.

You owe them nothing. Nothing at all.

I'd suggest you stay at home with your DH and children. Create whatever festive traditions feel right for your family. Honour your dad's memory.

Your Mum and brother have no place in your life or your Christmas. Show your children what a real family looks like, and that you don't accommodate cruel bullies in your life.

Fullyhuman · 15/11/2021 11:05

NOOOOOO

Cut them both off, your mother too. If you can’t do it for you - and you deserve the consideration and respect, you are worth cutting them off for your own benefit, but if that’s too guilt-inducing - do it for your children. It’s bad for children to see their mother disrespected, it hurts them too. And there’s only so far you can your feelings from your own children, especially when they are really young, they are very connected to you and pick up the stress.

I wish you a joyful birthing and a safe, cosy winter with your husband and children, and lots more therapy, OP. You deserve it.

Kanfuzed123 · 15/11/2021 11:23

NC is the only way it’s heading. I can’t have anything more to for with my brother that’s for sure and literally nothing can change my mind on that.

M too, everything is my fault and I just cannot live like it anymore. I’m nearly 39 weeks pregnant and had just countless essay text messages til 2am saying how filled with hate I am, spent most of the night in tears, unable to sleep and woke up today after about 90 mins of sleep in so much pain. All for saying I can’t pick her up and drive her to my house and we won’t be doing a big x mas feast with a Turkey for 3 people….

OP posts:
Palavah · 15/11/2021 11:25

I don't understand why you still haven't blocked his number so you don't keep receiving his horrible messages.

Kanfuzed123 · 15/11/2021 11:33

@Palavah

I don't understand why you still haven't blocked his number so you don't keep receiving his horrible messages.
I have after our last ‘conversation’.

Was actually more upset by Ms comments than his tbh

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TabithaTumbler · 15/11/2021 11:47

and then I got shortly after both barrels from M. she did c mas with a 5 year old and a 3 month old so doesn’t understand why I’m making excuses.

Ahh but did she have an abusive brother and a bitch of a mother to contend with at the same time?!

Honestly block her, you can do without all this stress when you're pregnant.

ineedaholidayandwine · 15/11/2021 11:48

Good god what a shit family you have! I'm so so sorry about your dad and i hope you can focus on the good memories you have with him, especially at Christmas.
Your brother is a complete twat and a waste of space, do not give him any more headspace.
Your mum, wow, how she can be that way with you baffles me, stay strong, do not go to hers or have her to you, have the Christmas period at home with your husband and children, block your mum too at least during that time, you don't need the stress and it's a time for you to focus on your lovely children, you'll have a squishy newborn taking up your time, sod hosting Christmas.

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