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Covid, twatty DH and how my life has been destroyed

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Maiasaur · 28/10/2021 08:30

I had a bad pregnancy and was off sick for ages, then on maternity, ended up getting managed out (aka got rid of) because I needed more time off due to my health. I had surgery to fix some issues. DC was approaching two when I felt recovered enough to get a new job. Everything was lined up.

Then Covid happened. Nurseries were closed. Family childcare was unavailable. Someone had to stay at home with DC. Of course in the 2.5 years since I got pregnant, DH had been promoted. So his logic was that we needed to keep his stable well paid job in preference to me starting a new, lower paid job with no security. So I had to give up my job offer and ended up bearing the burden of childcare through repeated lockdowns.

Finally nurseries reopened - but due to the pandemic, places were in short supply. My job offer was long gone. Employers still had staff on furlough and working from home, their finances were tight, so they were cautious about hiring. At this point I’d been out of work for over 3 years. DH got promoted again.

This was the point at which the problems started. DH started to whinge that everything was still volatile, bubbles were bursting and kids were having to isolate, so someone needed to be available to look after DC. And of course he was so important now, he couldn’t possibly do it.

I got a job and arranged a childminder for pick ups and drop offs. Childminder got Covid so DC had to isolate for 10 days, my new employer was not pleased. Then DC got chickenpox so that was more time off work. Covid at nursery again, more time off - and I got fired because I wasn’t able to attend work reliably. During this time DH wouldn’t take a single day off work. This is when he started to say “we can’t put the job of the highest earner at risk, when you earn the same as me I’ll take equal responsibility for DC”.

Of course I’m never going to catch up with him now because I’m four years behind career-wise. So that basically means all childcare has been dumped on me. And if all the childcare is on me I’m never going to be able to catch up am I?

So let’s skip past the fact that I’m angry, resentful, hate DH and often go to bed at 8pm to avoid him. Someone has to parent my DC so I’m currently looking for a job that can fit around that and offer flexibility for sick days. My previous career won’t. So I asked DH to help me assess my options and figure out what I could do that would suit our current circumstances. He was really nasty and said no, it’s not his responsibility to sort out a job for me, he can’t tell me what to do. I said fine - fuck it, I’ll just go back to my career then and you’ll have to deal with the fallout in terms of childcare. Of course he’s not happy with that either, I’m a nasty selfish bitch, and he doesn’t deserve that when he’s working hard to provide for us all.

Honestly, what am I supposed to do here? I have more chance of holding down a job now that the 10 day isolation is no longer required for close contacts. But I’m just getting zero help. He’s staying later and later at work, he’s gone from finishing at 5, to 6, and now he isn’t leaving the office till 6.30. So that puts all of the cooking on my shoulders too because he isn’t home in time. And now he’s refusing to do any grocery shopping or meal planning because I’ll be cooking so apparently I need to sort it, he’s already doing his share by working.

Honestly I’m on the verge of divorcing him to force him to take 50% custody. I agreed to have a baby because we earned the same and would both work and share childcare. I didn’t sign up to be stuck with the whole lot and unable to work full-time just because he earns more.

OP posts:
Tittyfilarious81 · 29/10/2021 10:31

@Maiasaur may I ask why you won't use childcare so you can go back to work , if your husband isn't flexible it's the only way you can get back to the career you want

Maiasaur · 29/10/2021 10:31

Oh and by the way it makes me sad how many people are sneering at the idea of being in career on 22k
Just because your career isn’t highly paid doesn’t make it any less of a career. Prior to the £22k job I did a PhD and they didn’t pay me at all, in fact I actually PAID THEM to let me work there. The £22k job was an achievement and the start of a very long road towards scientific recognition and success. A road which I was kicked off because I dared to have a baby during a pandemic. It’s not about money, not even close.

OP posts:
LittleBearPad · 29/10/2021 10:32

And before some of the other posters shriek - this might not be 50% of every task. That may not be possible everyday - but in the round it should approximate to a balance.

Interested in this thread?

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Maiasaur · 29/10/2021 10:33

^^ this isn't wholly correct. Lots of parents pay for childminders and nursery care, holiday clubs, breakfast clubs and after school clubs
How is that not about money? You need money to pay for those things.

OP posts:
DottyHarmer · 29/10/2021 10:34

If it’s not about money, then ship out and start again. You are where you are. It’s up to you.

LittleBearPad · 29/10/2021 10:35

@Maiasaur

^^ this isn't wholly correct. Lots of parents pay for childminders and nursery care, holiday clubs, breakfast clubs and after school clubs How is that not about money? You need money to pay for those things.
OP I’m really on your side but for goodness sake!

Get a job then you (and DH) can pay for childcare that facilItates the job.

Come on you can do this!

DottyHarmer · 29/10/2021 10:36

Oh, so you’ve just said it is about money now Confused . You are just shrieking into the wind about your lot in life with no will to change things.

tara66 · 29/10/2021 10:37

Working from home self employed may be a consideration (seeing you asked you DH to help you choose what you could now). If you browse some of the sites for franchises they have long lists of different types businesses which might give you ideas. Or perhaps you could work whatever you did previously as a temp. for example to build up your work experience etc? Are you registered with any employment agency - if not - even just an interview might give be helpful? Apparently there is a shortage of ''workers'' in most fields since Brexit.

Blossomtoes · 29/10/2021 10:37

What’s the point of pushing me through all of these “women in STEM” programs if I’m going to be excluded as soon as I have a child to look after?

Because the years when you have a dependent child are short relative to a 40 year working life. Your child won’t be dependent for ever, particularly if you drop your somewhat niche attitude to child care.

You’ll find when you get there that older women are very attractive in the job market. They work harder than men, know they have to be better and are reliable. I’ve known a lot of women, including me, whose careers have really taken off when their kids get older.

neonjumper · 29/10/2021 10:40

@Maiasaur

because OP's a selfish twat who can't handle the fact that whatever fairy tale she was stupid enough to believe can't be made to work with her current circumstances Actually I think millions of young women have been sold the fairytale that they’re equal to men. Right from starting school we’re told that boys and girls are equal, girls can do anything boys can do, girl power, initiatives to get more women into male dominated fields like STEM, computing and policing, etc. Women can drink like men, have casual sex like men, drive fast cars and do extreme sports like men. Equality has been achieved, right? That’s what I was led to believe.

Then you have a baby and discover that equality was an illusion. Women who appear to be equal either have no kids, lots of money or older relatives who offer free childcare. The truth is, you have a baby and it fucks your body one way or another and you end up taking time off work. If you don’t have money or family support then you’re left holding the baby. And that scuppers your ambitions and your life in general.

I’m not so much angry at DH as at society. Equality my arse. What’s the point of pushing me through all of these “women in STEM” programs if I’m going to be excluded as soon as I have a child to look after?

Actually you are right OP. Whilst I've been reading this thread, the number of threads over the years , especially from women in later years , about having given up careers and the realisation that their partners careers have excelled as a result of them giving theirs up , have been many.

I constantly drill into my nieces, that their career does not take the sidelines in a relationship and having children is not a prerequisite of a relationship and even if they do, they should continue on with their career.

There have been times when my children's childcare and working makes no financial sense , but career progression, paying into a pension are the long term benefits. Your potential to earn the most, is in your 30's .

There are many , many posts on here where women are stuck with the children in unequal partnerships .

Blossomtoes · 29/10/2021 10:43

Your potential to earn the most, is in your 30's

It isn’t. I was earning a very average salary in my 30s. I was on six figures in my 50s. It’s women peddling this kind of myth who make young women think they have to cram everything in at once.

BadNomad · 29/10/2021 10:43

I don't know why posters are assuming your husband will pay for childcare he doesn't need and doesn't want.

Notonthestairs · 29/10/2021 10:44

Yes childcare costs money - you will need to cover 12/13 weeks of holidays, school finishes around 3 and doesn't start til 8.45. Any which way you cut it you will have to pay for care.

So you pay and you work. And for some years the household stands still financially. And then Yr 5/6 they start walking home from school etc and on you go.

You pay out now to invest in your long term future.

Autumndays123 · 29/10/2021 10:48

@Maiasaur

Oh and by the way it makes me sad how many people are sneering at the idea of being in career on 22k Just because your career isn’t highly paid doesn’t make it any less of a career. Prior to the £22k job I did a PhD and they didn’t pay me at all, in fact I actually PAID THEM to let me work there. The £22k job was an achievement and the start of a very long road towards scientific recognition and success. A road which I was kicked off because I dared to have a baby during a pandemic. It’s not about money, not even close.
Urm OP I'm not sure why anyone would pay your to do a PhD, or why you think you're entitled to that? Do you mean you didn't receive a stipend? A PhD isn't a job, it's a degree I'm not sure how you 'worked there' as a PhD isn't a place?

Also, your baby is 3/4 did you say? You didn't have them in a pandemic then did you? Seeing as it's only been going on for 18M

WeCalledTheDogIndiana · 29/10/2021 10:50

Why do posters say OP won't pay for childcare? She had childcare. She then lost her job because her DH wouldn't cover any of the sick days when her child couldn't go to childcare. She's not anti childcare!!! She just wants her DH to do an equal share.

OP, fwiw I totally get it. I would feel the same and I'm sorry you're in this position.

I am (I think, from your posts) about ten years older than you and the difference in career success among my peers is all about the difference in how much their partners / husbands approach family life as a partnership. I am mentoring someone at the moment who isn't going for promotion because she knows her DH won't step up and she worries her children will suffer as a result. It's a real thing for lots of women, and you have a very extreme version of it.

You can change it. Don't give in to it. Other posters have had good suggestions. But I'm sorry you have to do all the heavy lifting to do so rather than be supported by the person who's meant to support you. Be angry at your DH (I'd be raging). Channel it into something better without him.

DampSquidGames · 29/10/2021 10:50

Where do you want to be 10 years time, still not working and blaming your DH or doing well in your career with a teenager who doesn’t need childcare?
You can’t change what’s happened during the last few years.

Autumndays123 · 29/10/2021 10:50

@WeCalledTheDogIndiana

Why do posters say OP won't pay for childcare? She had childcare. She then lost her job because her DH wouldn't cover any of the sick days when her child couldn't go to childcare. She's not anti childcare!!! She just wants her DH to do an equal share.

OP, fwiw I totally get it. I would feel the same and I'm sorry you're in this position.

I am (I think, from your posts) about ten years older than you and the difference in career success among my peers is all about the difference in how much their partners / husbands approach family life as a partnership. I am mentoring someone at the moment who isn't going for promotion because she knows her DH won't step up and she worries her children will suffer as a result. It's a real thing for lots of women, and you have a very extreme version of it.

You can change it. Don't give in to it. Other posters have had good suggestions. But I'm sorry you have to do all the heavy lifting to do so rather than be supported by the person who's meant to support you. Be angry at your DH (I'd be raging). Channel it into something better without him.

OP said earlier in the thread she's not having 'randoms' look after her child
WeCalledTheDogIndiana · 29/10/2021 10:53

I know she did, but she clearly isn't anti childcare when she's previously had some. I read the 'ransoms' comment (with her later posts about what she'd like her DH to do) as not having to use things like after school clubs/walk to school services/rely on car pools etc. So children are either in a registered setting or with a parent, rather than a registered setting with lots of ad hoc arrangements to fill the gaps

WeCalledTheDogIndiana · 29/10/2021 10:54

Ransoms, not ransoms

WeCalledTheDogIndiana · 29/10/2021 10:55

Ransoms, not ransoms

Oh FFS autocorrect!! Randoms. Obviously!

SpinsForGin · 29/10/2021 10:56

Urm OP I'm not sure why anyone would pay your to do a PhD, or why you think you're entitled to that? Do you mean you didn't receive a stipend? A PhD isn't a job, it's a degree I'm not sure how you 'worked there' as a PhD isn't a place?

Off topic I know but ....I was paid to do a PhD and I worked for the organisation while completing it. It can be a 'job' in some sectors....

Autumndays123 · 29/10/2021 10:56

OP you've had quite a few years at home with your child now, have you made any attempt at all to keep up with your career? Have you published any scientific articles? Contributed to any journals? Anything at all? If not then unfortunately there is only one person to blame for your career not being where you want it to be.

DampSquidGames · 29/10/2021 10:57

WeCalledTheDogIndiana that’s a lot of ransoms!

tara66 · 29/10/2021 10:58

I've not noticed anyone saying take up yoga exercises - either go to classes or buy a book/DVD and do 20 mins a day. Does wonders for your body and mental attitude.

Autumndays123 · 29/10/2021 10:59

@SpinsForGin

Urm OP I'm not sure why anyone would pay your to do a PhD, or why you think you're entitled to that? Do you mean you didn't receive a stipend? A PhD isn't a job, it's a degree I'm not sure how you 'worked there' as a PhD isn't a place?

Off topic I know but ....I was paid to do a PhD and I worked for the organisation while completing it. It can be a 'job' in some sectors....

But that's not what OP is saying is she? She clearly wasn't employed by an organisation who funded her PhD as she's now sulking because she had to pay to do it. I too have a PhD and know how easy it is to get funding providing you are writing about a valuable area and produce good quality work. You can get stipends, bursaries from the uni, grants from relevant charities etc etc. I've never met anyone who didn't have some kind of funding