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Covid, twatty DH and how my life has been destroyed

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Maiasaur · 28/10/2021 08:30

I had a bad pregnancy and was off sick for ages, then on maternity, ended up getting managed out (aka got rid of) because I needed more time off due to my health. I had surgery to fix some issues. DC was approaching two when I felt recovered enough to get a new job. Everything was lined up.

Then Covid happened. Nurseries were closed. Family childcare was unavailable. Someone had to stay at home with DC. Of course in the 2.5 years since I got pregnant, DH had been promoted. So his logic was that we needed to keep his stable well paid job in preference to me starting a new, lower paid job with no security. So I had to give up my job offer and ended up bearing the burden of childcare through repeated lockdowns.

Finally nurseries reopened - but due to the pandemic, places were in short supply. My job offer was long gone. Employers still had staff on furlough and working from home, their finances were tight, so they were cautious about hiring. At this point I’d been out of work for over 3 years. DH got promoted again.

This was the point at which the problems started. DH started to whinge that everything was still volatile, bubbles were bursting and kids were having to isolate, so someone needed to be available to look after DC. And of course he was so important now, he couldn’t possibly do it.

I got a job and arranged a childminder for pick ups and drop offs. Childminder got Covid so DC had to isolate for 10 days, my new employer was not pleased. Then DC got chickenpox so that was more time off work. Covid at nursery again, more time off - and I got fired because I wasn’t able to attend work reliably. During this time DH wouldn’t take a single day off work. This is when he started to say “we can’t put the job of the highest earner at risk, when you earn the same as me I’ll take equal responsibility for DC”.

Of course I’m never going to catch up with him now because I’m four years behind career-wise. So that basically means all childcare has been dumped on me. And if all the childcare is on me I’m never going to be able to catch up am I?

So let’s skip past the fact that I’m angry, resentful, hate DH and often go to bed at 8pm to avoid him. Someone has to parent my DC so I’m currently looking for a job that can fit around that and offer flexibility for sick days. My previous career won’t. So I asked DH to help me assess my options and figure out what I could do that would suit our current circumstances. He was really nasty and said no, it’s not his responsibility to sort out a job for me, he can’t tell me what to do. I said fine - fuck it, I’ll just go back to my career then and you’ll have to deal with the fallout in terms of childcare. Of course he’s not happy with that either, I’m a nasty selfish bitch, and he doesn’t deserve that when he’s working hard to provide for us all.

Honestly, what am I supposed to do here? I have more chance of holding down a job now that the 10 day isolation is no longer required for close contacts. But I’m just getting zero help. He’s staying later and later at work, he’s gone from finishing at 5, to 6, and now he isn’t leaving the office till 6.30. So that puts all of the cooking on my shoulders too because he isn’t home in time. And now he’s refusing to do any grocery shopping or meal planning because I’ll be cooking so apparently I need to sort it, he’s already doing his share by working.

Honestly I’m on the verge of divorcing him to force him to take 50% custody. I agreed to have a baby because we earned the same and would both work and share childcare. I didn’t sign up to be stuck with the whole lot and unable to work full-time just because he earns more.

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Saharafordessert · 28/10/2021 22:10

OP……you’ve had so much good advice on this thread so how’s the time to read it, digest it and then act on it.
Your child is 4 so you’ve had plenty of time to research career options/retrain/take new courses/get ducks in row for potential divorce.
Now is the time to stop blaming everyone else for how things have turned out and start planning for your future……YOU need to take control.
I honestly think counselling would help you let go of all the anger and bitterness surrounding your situation and move on with your life and to help you positively parent with love and happiness.

cocktailclub · 28/10/2021 22:10

I bore the brunt of childcare for our dc and my DH career accelerated along with his pension and earning power. Mine plateaued and actually then declined. He's always said he will support me in the future and share his pension. We took a joint decision but it meant I never reached my potential and will not have a comfortable retirement on my own. If he was behaving as your DH has I would have divorced him and got back in with my career in my thirties while you can still make up for lost time.

bluelemming · 28/10/2021 22:12

Whether justified or not OP your bitterness is not conducive to your marriage surviving anyway. Then you will have to get paid childcare, which you claim you are so against.

It seems to me that you would gain more pleasure from your DH's career going down the pan than getting a decent job yourself.

Get divorced, go to work, and forgive, if you ever want to find some peace.

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Goawaymorningsickeness · 28/10/2021 22:14

@Clymene

Really *@Goawaymorningsickeness*?

I got pregnant accidentally. Initially I wanted an abortion because I wanted a career not a baby. But DH said he’d never forgive me if I aborted his child, he’d divorce me and take half of my house, and my half wouldn’t be enough to buy another house, so he would go back to live with his mum in her proper house while I’d end up back in a shitty rented bedsit. And he said he’d tell everyone we knew that he’d left me because I killed his baby.

This is not a man who is looking after his wife and child. This is a monster who gets his locus keeping his wife at home when she desperately wants to work

Yes really. I totally see his point about him being the main breadwinner.

That doesn’t excuse the horrible things he’s said, but I understand that particular point.

PurpleOkapi · 28/10/2021 22:29

I don't think divorcing due to a disagreement about whether to abort an already-conceived pregnancy makes someone a monster. I also don't think taking one's legal rights to 50% of property in a divorce makes someone a monster, especially if they paid for 50% of it in the first place. Telling everyone all about it isn't nice, but people would ask, and I don't think telling the truth is such a terrible thing to do.

DottyHarmer · 28/10/2021 22:31

Frankly wouldn’t anyone be upset to the point of hysterical if their spouse wanted to abort their baby? What if a Dh said you had to have an abortion as he didn’t want to do any childcare? It all sounds absolutely horrible. There can’t have been much love between this pair in the first place.

Also, if OP did want this amazing career (which didn’t appear to be going too well even before any baby came along) how come the “shitty bedsit” bothered her? That’s what one small salary gets you. Clearly OP appreciated her dh’s earning power….

The poor child in all this. A mother who wanted to abort him and now is too stingy to pay childcare. Who wants this “great career” without trying, and who seems to have always hated her dh….

justasking111 · 28/10/2021 22:34

@bluelemming

Whether justified or not OP your bitterness is not conducive to your marriage surviving anyway. Then you will have to get paid childcare, which you claim you are so against.

It seems to me that you would gain more pleasure from your DH's career going down the pan than getting a decent job yourself.

Get divorced, go to work, and forgive, if you ever want to find some peace.

Wonder if he packed in his job so she could have a career how long it would be before that was resented by th the OP?

As a single parent she will be free to work only with childcare.

My friends mum was widowed with three small girls she worked full time, dealt with that, got cancer dealt with that whilst working. It must have been so hard yet she was the sweetest lady, cancer got her the third time we still miss her

derxa · 28/10/2021 22:42

op you're depressed. Act accordingly

Justilou1 · 28/10/2021 22:47

Well, you’re obviously facilitating DH by feeing his stupid face, buying his stupid food and washing his stupid clothes, etc. Have you thought about stopping these services? Just chuck his clothes in baskets and let that build up. Feed yourself and your child and make sure there are no leftovers.

DottyHarmer · 28/10/2021 22:53

That sort of advice is petty and pointless. Would this go on for ever? As I said before, that’s the behaviour of hostile flatmates, not a married couple.

lifesnotaspectatorsport · 28/10/2021 22:55

@Maiasaur I feel your fury emanating from every post and I really get it. The resentment, the unfairness, the fact that all the downsides of being parents (and let's not kid ourselves there aren't any) get shoved onto you. He gets to fulfil his ambitions and you don't. Every month that passes you fall further behind in your career paths and yet you're every bit as smart as he is, but somehow you're left doing housework and supermarket shopping and wiping bottoms.

I feel like this myself quite often and the rage is dizzying. And in my case, I have an awesome DH who gets it and does his best to share as much as he can. I actually did go back to work and out-earned him after our first child - we split the childcare exactly as you originally hoped. But then we had twins and moved countries and it just wasn't sensible or practical to arrange and pay for full time childcare for 3, so I've taken some time out. He has a great job. I am sometimes breathtakingly jealous. BUT the crucial difference is that 1) he supported me to start my own business which has given me a real and fulfilling project, and useful experience for when I do return to my career, 2) we got part time child care even though we can barely afford it so that I had time to work on it, 3) we split all childcare outside of his working hours equally. (Yes, people, that's possible. Entertaining small kids all day is not a holiday. I found being in the office WAY less draining. And no, I do not cook all the dinners, he's quite capable of doing that after he gets home.)

I guess what I'm trying to say is, I hear you, and despite what some posters are commenting, you aren't asking for the moon on a stick. It's not unreasonable to ask him to look for another job that's not incompatible with you working. If he earns less but you can work and offset that, what's wrong with that? You're a team which means both of your needs matter, not just his. Some people are fine with team meaning one works and one stays home but you're not, so he needs to ditch that notion.

The problem, as I'm sure you know, is that he's a dick of donkey proportions. That comment about paying you to be a nanny and cleaner - I don't know how anyone can defend him on here after that.

So you've got to take your rage and make a plan. Give him one last ultimatum if you like, and then get job hunting. If DC watches Paw Patrol for an hour or two while you get on it, so be it. Write applications when you go to bed at 8pm. Line up some good childcare and a place to live (parents?). Call in favours from friends. And just do yourself a favour and go. Either he'll realise the error of his ways or, more likely, you'll realise you will never grow or achieve what you want with that DH-sized albatross around your neck.

Good luck. 💐

Beautiful3 · 28/10/2021 22:58

I.do understand where you're coming from but it makes sense for the main bread winner to continue going to work. Since I had child number 2, I realised that my husband and I couldn't keep taking time off for the kids, as they were always ill. I knew that one of us would get fired. I decided to step down and be with the children full time. I had no one else for emergency childcare, so found it easier to be at home for them. I have found nothing that works around us, for a job. My kids seem to take turns being ill, and there's not enough Al to cover the school holidays. Can you wait until your children finish primary school?

LittleBearPad · 28/10/2021 23:00

@Beautiful3

I.do understand where you're coming from but it makes sense for the main bread winner to continue going to work. Since I had child number 2, I realised that my husband and I couldn't keep taking time off for the kids, as they were always ill. I knew that one of us would get fired. I decided to step down and be with the children full time. I had no one else for emergency childcare, so found it easier to be at home for them. I have found nothing that works around us, for a job. My kids seem to take turns being ill, and there's not enough Al to cover the school holidays. Can you wait until your children finish primary school?
You think telling a desperately unhappy woman to wait at least another 8 years to get a job is helpful.

Interesting…

Beautiful3 · 28/10/2021 23:06

@LittleBearPad unless her husband leaves his job for her to get a full time one, I can't see how it will work? Or he works days and she works nights or weekends? Who ever is most skilled and earns the most money, is the better one to work. Perhaps she could iron or make things to sell. To be honest without supportive parents to help out with emergency childcare, working is limited for most mothers. I tried to find a job for years to fit around my husbands shifts and the school run. But the truth is, most jobs want you to be flexible, evenings and weekends included. Some even tell you when you can take your Al. Its not easy to.find a job that works with the family.

PurpleOkapi · 28/10/2021 23:07

The problem, as I'm sure you know, is that he's a dick of donkey proportions. That comment about paying you to be a nanny and cleaner - I don't know how anyone can defend him on here after that.

Anyone who can do math can see the logic of that proposal, even if most would have better sense than to voice it. If OP is going to stop cleaning so she can work, and DH can't or doesn't want to do the cleaning himself, then obviously they'll need to pay a cleaner. Would OP make more than it would cost to pay a cleaner? From what she's posted, that's doubtful. So there's a good chance they'd both come out ahead if they did that instead.

That's not to say OP should have thought that was a fine idea. But getting this upset about a suggestion that makes perfect economic sense is just silly.

ChimChimeny · 28/10/2021 23:09

Grandparents were allowed to care for grandchildren all through every lockdown, so am confused by your statement

Not in the first one they weren't. Just googled, found some advice from Nov about forming childcare bubbles.

PurpleOkapi · 28/10/2021 23:12

@Justilou1

Well, you’re obviously facilitating DH by feeing his stupid face, buying his stupid food and washing his stupid clothes, etc. Have you thought about stopping these services? Just chuck his clothes in baskets and let that build up. Feed yourself and your child and make sure there are no leftovers.
Sure, she could do that. And then he could hire someone else to do everything she's no longer doing. Shortly thereafter, it would undoubtedly occur to him that if he's paying someone else to do those things anyway, there's really no reason for him to keep paying to feed, clothe, and house her. And he'll be right.
Duchess379 · 28/10/2021 23:16

Totally agree! Op never agreed to being a SAHM. Just because some women aspire to this, our op didn't. She's been gaslighted, lied to & disrespected by her feck of a husband. All she wants is to work & be someone other than 'just a mum'

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RobertaFirmino · 28/10/2021 23:20

Some thoughts from me:
*You absolutely CAN walk out on husband and child if you want to.
*Your husband will never change. Never.
*If you were happier in yourself, you might feel happier about motherhood. You might be happier going back to work or you might be happier without husband. Or even both.
*If you divorce him, you can take him to the cleaners.
*Try not to be negative about childcare. People do that job because they love children and want to take care of them.
*You might want to do as a PP suggested, start building up your own savings via cashback on the weekly shop etc.
*No court will force 50/50 custody. In fact, his only obligation is to pay maintenance. Legally, he does not have to see the DC at all.
*Ignore the nasty comments - how very dare a woman be anything other than ecstatic about being a wife/mother!
*I really hope you can find happiness in yourself. You deserve nothing less.

TerrificTeapot · 28/10/2021 23:21

OP, I salute you.

It is very difficult to realise you've backed yourself into a tight corner.

You need to grieve for the life you lost before you even lived it.
And prepare for the future you can grasp now that you've got the energy/drive and you know who you can rely on. I.e. just yourself.

It won't be easy and the idea of just shutting up and putting up to keep the peace and current comforts has its appeal. But it sounds like you are at a turning point for opportunities.

LittleBearPad · 28/10/2021 23:21

@PurpleOkapi

The problem, as I'm sure you know, is that he's a dick of donkey proportions. That comment about paying you to be a nanny and cleaner - I don't know how anyone can defend him on here after that.

Anyone who can do math can see the logic of that proposal, even if most would have better sense than to voice it. If OP is going to stop cleaning so she can work, and DH can't or doesn't want to do the cleaning himself, then obviously they'll need to pay a cleaner. Would OP make more than it would cost to pay a cleaner? From what she's posted, that's doubtful. So there's a good chance they'd both come out ahead if they did that instead.

That's not to say OP should have thought that was a fine idea. But getting this upset about a suggestion that makes perfect economic sense is just silly.

How much do you think cleaners cost!?!
Tailendofsummer · 28/10/2021 23:29

Sorry if this has been said, but how on earth does taking a day here and there to look after a sick child (during a pandemic!) "put his job at risk"? It sounds a pretty insecure one to me if there is zero flexibility like this.

lifesnotaspectatorsport · 28/10/2021 23:30

@PurpleOkapi

Anyone who can do math can see the logic of that proposal, even if most would have better sense than to voice it. If OP is going to stop cleaning so she can work, and DH can't or doesn't want to do the cleaning himself, then obviously they'll need to pay a cleaner. Would OP make more than it would cost to pay a cleaner? From what she's posted, that's doubtful. So there's a good chance they'd both come out ahead if they did that instead.

But it's completely missing the point! OP wants a career, not to be a cleaner. She wants to fulfil her ambitions which presumably extend beyond cleaning floors and doing laundry. The point of getting a cleaner & nanny so she can go back to work, is so she can build that career and future for herself. It's not about whether they'll be financially better off in that moment, it's about investing in HER future and not just his.

This happens FAR too often, that people only look at whether a woman working is going to make them any extra cash - when actually even if they are worse off by a small amount, it's going to be beneficial in the long run for her earning ability, employability, pension, self-worth etc etc

TedMullins · 28/10/2021 23:35

Actually can’t believe anyone is telling you you should be grateful to be at home, you’re “demonising” your husband, of course he can’t take any responsibility for his own kid. FUCK that noise! There’s another thread running with an OP who thinks Sweden’s subsidised childcare forces women to put their kids in childcare but situations like OPs are why we desperately need free childcare. No-one should be forced out of work against their will. Damn right he should take a pay cut to parent his own child, his sperm created it, responsibility is 50% his. She didn’t sign up to live in the 1950s. His threats when you wanted an abortion were vile - frankly if anyone said those things to me I hope I’d leave there and then and have the abortion, but hindsight is a wonderful thing.