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Covid, twatty DH and how my life has been destroyed

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Maiasaur · 28/10/2021 08:30

I had a bad pregnancy and was off sick for ages, then on maternity, ended up getting managed out (aka got rid of) because I needed more time off due to my health. I had surgery to fix some issues. DC was approaching two when I felt recovered enough to get a new job. Everything was lined up.

Then Covid happened. Nurseries were closed. Family childcare was unavailable. Someone had to stay at home with DC. Of course in the 2.5 years since I got pregnant, DH had been promoted. So his logic was that we needed to keep his stable well paid job in preference to me starting a new, lower paid job with no security. So I had to give up my job offer and ended up bearing the burden of childcare through repeated lockdowns.

Finally nurseries reopened - but due to the pandemic, places were in short supply. My job offer was long gone. Employers still had staff on furlough and working from home, their finances were tight, so they were cautious about hiring. At this point I’d been out of work for over 3 years. DH got promoted again.

This was the point at which the problems started. DH started to whinge that everything was still volatile, bubbles were bursting and kids were having to isolate, so someone needed to be available to look after DC. And of course he was so important now, he couldn’t possibly do it.

I got a job and arranged a childminder for pick ups and drop offs. Childminder got Covid so DC had to isolate for 10 days, my new employer was not pleased. Then DC got chickenpox so that was more time off work. Covid at nursery again, more time off - and I got fired because I wasn’t able to attend work reliably. During this time DH wouldn’t take a single day off work. This is when he started to say “we can’t put the job of the highest earner at risk, when you earn the same as me I’ll take equal responsibility for DC”.

Of course I’m never going to catch up with him now because I’m four years behind career-wise. So that basically means all childcare has been dumped on me. And if all the childcare is on me I’m never going to be able to catch up am I?

So let’s skip past the fact that I’m angry, resentful, hate DH and often go to bed at 8pm to avoid him. Someone has to parent my DC so I’m currently looking for a job that can fit around that and offer flexibility for sick days. My previous career won’t. So I asked DH to help me assess my options and figure out what I could do that would suit our current circumstances. He was really nasty and said no, it’s not his responsibility to sort out a job for me, he can’t tell me what to do. I said fine - fuck it, I’ll just go back to my career then and you’ll have to deal with the fallout in terms of childcare. Of course he’s not happy with that either, I’m a nasty selfish bitch, and he doesn’t deserve that when he’s working hard to provide for us all.

Honestly, what am I supposed to do here? I have more chance of holding down a job now that the 10 day isolation is no longer required for close contacts. But I’m just getting zero help. He’s staying later and later at work, he’s gone from finishing at 5, to 6, and now he isn’t leaving the office till 6.30. So that puts all of the cooking on my shoulders too because he isn’t home in time. And now he’s refusing to do any grocery shopping or meal planning because I’ll be cooking so apparently I need to sort it, he’s already doing his share by working.

Honestly I’m on the verge of divorcing him to force him to take 50% custody. I agreed to have a baby because we earned the same and would both work and share childcare. I didn’t sign up to be stuck with the whole lot and unable to work full-time just because he earns more.

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FloconDeNeige · 28/10/2021 16:18

Horrible situation for you OP, I sympathise. I lost my job when I got severe HG in pregnancy. I was extremely bitter about this and I’d wanted the baby as much as DH.

If I’d been given a choice; a baby but no career, or a career but no baby, I’d have chosen the latter. In the end I managed to get back on track, but only because DH steps up and supports me (as I him).

In your situation, where you didn’t even want to continue with the pregnancy but were coerced, I would seriously consider walking away. Find a job elsewhere - overseas even - and just leave. Your H wanted the kid; let him bring them up. Men leave every day without a backwards glance. You can too.

Good luck.

newplanneeded · 28/10/2021 16:18

I feel so angry for you.

He is having it all - a career, opportunities, the child he wanted - all 100% at your expense - all in addition of his support network of voices (at his work) suggesting this is completely normal.

you had a very very clearly defined deal - you give birth in exchange of shared parenting.

It was agreed, and now he is not sticking to it.

He is taking ambition and work life from you - for someone with ambition, this means being deprived of a huge part of life you need in order to be a happy person.

He doesn't care that you are unhappy.

I think i'd resent him so severely,
i'd get a divorce - now that you have his DC you might be able to keep the house.
get a SHL.

home2012 · 28/10/2021 16:20

I think those telling you to try and let go of the anger are right. If you are very angry then you can't have a proper conversation with him.

Just try very calmly talking, tell him how utterly unhappy you are, and that you see breaking up as the only way forward. Let him have a chance to listen properly( without anger and you said this that ot the other four years ago)

Tell him it's a clean skate, this is where we are, this is where I want to be, can we get there together or apart. It might just work

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Oftenithinkaboutit · 28/10/2021 16:20

All those telling the op to get a divorce

She doesn’t seem that keen on her children
She doesn’t want childcare for the children

So how will that work in practise

Maiasaur · 28/10/2021 16:25

Did you discuss the fact that you didn't want children? Was he aware of this, and then changed his mind?
I never said no to children at some point. But I would have been happier to have a child at about 38-39 when my career was established and I was senior enough to have more flexibility. I’d probably have been able to negotiate part time hours - if you earn £50k you can go part time and still pocket £25k. But when you’re on £22k you’re not important enough and your employer won’t accommodate you, they may even try to get rid of you.

Anyway I got pregnant and he switched from “let’s try for a baby in a decade or so” to “this has happened now and we should embrace it”. We had some arguments about the implications either way, and we agreed we’d keep the baby and split the childcare so neither of us suffered by having a child too early. Of course he then moved the goalposts as I said, he got offered opportunities and suddenly he didn’t want to do his share any more.

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Strangevipers · 28/10/2021 16:26

"DH had been promoted. So his logic was that we needed to keep his stable well paid job in preference to me starting a new, lower paid job with no security. So I had to give up my job offer and ended up bearing the burden of childcare through repeated lockdowns. "

Obviously, that is the most logical and sensible thing to have done at that moment.

You can not blame your husband for Covid.

However

Covid restrictions and isolations are easing now.

Tell your husband what you want

And get yourself the job you want and that's the end of that argument

Pallisers · 28/10/2021 16:28

Realising that the idea that women (or indeed anyone) can have it all is bollocks

I'd delete the "or indeed anyone*. Women can't have it all -especially if they have a spectacularly unsupportive and selfish husband like the OP does. But plenty of men have it all. A home, children and a super job they can spend as much time on as they want. the OP's husband has it all (well he is probably going to lose his wife but he probably figures he can get another one of those).

I can pretty much guarantee that the posters saying well he has the bigger job so you need to compromise or the bigger earner needs to focus on his job or why would he cook when you are home are the same posters who 10 years from now if OP says she has less savings than her dh would say "well you chose to go part time so that's why you have less"

OP, I really feel for you. I continued my career after having children with dh's support, contribution and expectation that he would be as much a parent as I would and that we would spend nearly all disposable money on childcare for a few years. And he had a "big" job that had expectations of long hours too. You don't have this and you can't magic it up - if you divorce, most likely he will do nothing to help you except have the children EOW when he will visit his parents. He certainly won't want 50/50

Your situation is exactly the trap some women face having children (and why men saying "we are pregnant gives me the rage). I suspect your marriage is effectively over as you have no respect for him anymore and he doesn't care about you or your concerns. I would think very carefully about how to construct your life now so that when you decide to divorce you are in the best possible position to be a single mother.

EarlGreywithLemon · 28/10/2021 16:30

I'd also add something else: I'm not sure what age you are, but I had my daughter when I had been working for 13 years and was lucky enough to be in a job with good benefits, a supportive environment for parents, flexibility etc. I didn't actually postpone having children for career reasons, I just took a while to find the right person for me. You are angry now and only see what you perceive as the losses to you from having a child in terms of your career. But I assure you that if you find you do want children, having them late can be scary too. I was very worried I wouldn't be able to get pregnant and angry at people who had their children before me, that they had this opportunity that I so worried I would never have. If I could have changed my career for a baby I would have done it in a heartbeat. I feel so fortunate to have our daughter and how I do as her mother is beyond any doubt the most important thing in my life. I still work in a good job which I enjoy, but nothing can ever be better than her. So beware of thinking the grass is greener on the other side - people in that position might be envying you.

SueSaid · 28/10/2021 16:32

'Then shit happened and I’m stuck doing 100% for the baby I wanted to abort'

Jesus op. I'd try some counselling for starters. God knows the damage that will be inflicted on the poor dc with all your palpable bitterness and resentment.

Get a job, use a childminder.

newplanneeded · 28/10/2021 16:33

@Heronwatcher
Honestly you sound a mess. You’re fixating on what was agreed some time ago but what you need to do is look at the current situation and work out what you want to do.

-^ well this is how relationships work, 2 people promise each other things like^ your standard marriage vows. 50/50 child care is a major promise, so major it is comparable to marriage vows. you wouldn't tell anyone not to fixate on a DH cheating after it was agreed by couple the not to cheat?

Discuss the situation with your husband. Be realistic and listen to his answers. ^
^
- OP did that and DH answers are complete bullshit.

And you need to try to change your mindset about motherhood, I have a career in a skilled area but I genuinely consider my greatest achievement so far to be raising my kids. ^
^
- OP doesn't need to change her mindset at all as she didn't create a baby on her own.
how about you change your mindset about insisting other women need to feel the same as you feel in terms of what is their greatest a achievement.

justasking111 · 28/10/2021 16:35

Having read all your posts I gleaned Three things

You hate your husband

You never wanted a pregnancy child

You earned 22k and wanted to be important again.

You could divorce him giving him full custody he earns enough to pay for help at 70k. Go back to work and catch up on your career, with no family distraction it's achievable

grapewine · 28/10/2021 16:35

@JaniieJones

'Then shit happened and I’m stuck doing 100% for the baby I wanted to abort'

Jesus op. I'd try some counselling for starters. God knows the damage that will be inflicted on the poor dc with all your palpable bitterness and resentment.

Get a job, use a childminder.

The child is four. It's not "will be".
Oftenithinkaboutit · 28/10/2021 16:37

** JaniieJones
'Then shit happened and I’m stuck doing 100% for the baby I wanted to abort'*

The child will be a damn sight better with “random people” looking after him/her than either of his own parents

JMAngel1 · 28/10/2021 16:37

Only on MN could a man who is taking care of his family financially be called a selfish twat.
Lots of women would kill to be in your position as a SAHM.

Terribleluck · 28/10/2021 16:38

Just wanted to add if you want to divorce him, do whatever is right for you but 50/50 custody means no child maintenance.

Maiasaur · 28/10/2021 16:39

Covid restrictions and isolations are easing now. Tell your husband what you want. And get yourself the job you want and that's the end of that argument
Except I’d basically be a working single mother handling everything child and home related because he’s too important to do anything. Every time I ask for help he’ll say “you’re choosing to work when you don’t need to, so if you can’t handle everything you need to quit”. And no doubt he’d still expect me to cook and clean because I’d have a lower paid less stressful job and get home earlier. If I’m working and he’s not doing his share then I might as well get rid of him because he’s just an extra burden.

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Maiasaur · 28/10/2021 16:40

Lots of women would kill to be in your position as a SAHM
Maybe he should have married someone who wanted to be a SAHM then.

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TractorAndHeadphones · 28/10/2021 16:43

Honestly I was 50/50 but now totally on your side.
Forget the anger OP - what’s your plan now? How are you going to get p of this?

At this stage even leaving your child with him is better than you staying, in resentment.

Oftenithinkaboutit · 28/10/2021 16:43

Please please get your children on to childcare
For their sake

Tivolia · 28/10/2021 16:44

This is really sad. Some workplaces don’t recognise their employees are parents. This gets filtered into the home where the other partner is forced to be the stay at home parent. Any negotiation is stifled. If you leave your partner may find the situation incredibly hard because your partner is unwilling to cooperate which, in turn, may leave you jobless. Do you have friends/relatives who could help if you’re on your own?

Your partner has threatened to leave your dc with his mum (who’s untrustworthy) if you force his hand. Emotional blackmail and threats of neglect are the order of the day to get you to comply. I feel very sad for your child. And you must feel like you’re painted into a tight corner.

Some say leave; some say stay and work with what you have. Only you can decide. How strategic are you? Would you benefit from academic/vocational study eg the OU. Re your old job: are there related fields which you could crossover with study/vocational courses?

If the household is bringing in 70k maybe it’s worth using some of this to invest in your time and future? Get shopping delivered, farm out some of the laundry/ironing in order to free up some time. Try a life coach/ careers counselling too, they may be able to provide suggestions that you hadn’t thought about. It may also be worth talking to a solicitor if you’re serious about leaving.

KeyboardWorriers · 28/10/2021 16:44

Have you actually read the thread @JMAngel1 taking care of the family includes enabling the mother to have a life outside the home

SpinsForGin · 28/10/2021 16:45

@JMAngel1

Only on MN could a man who is taking care of his family financially be called a selfish twat. Lots of women would kill to be in your position as a SAHM.
Not all women want to be a SAHP never mind be forced into that situation by their own husband.

Saying people would kill to be in your situation is completely meaningless. Is the OP supposed to be grateful? Should she just put up and shut up? Forget her own ambitions and desire to be financially independent?

It's so sad to see so many people telling to OP to be grateful for being treated like a second class citizen.

Fetarabbit · 28/10/2021 16:46

@Maiasaur

Covid restrictions and isolations are easing now. Tell your husband what you want. And get yourself the job you want and that's the end of that argument Except I’d basically be a working single mother handling everything child and home related because he’s too important to do anything. Every time I ask for help he’ll say “you’re choosing to work when you don’t need to, so if you can’t handle everything you need to quit”. And no doubt he’d still expect me to cook and clean because I’d have a lower paid less stressful job and get home earlier. If I’m working and he’s not doing his share then I might as well get rid of him because he’s just an extra burden.
Yes you may as well leave him, for both of your sakes and before this poison affects your child.
JMAngel1 · 28/10/2021 16:46

Is this how we really view relationships - you view your husband as a burden? Every chore to be resented/shared out?
I fear you will never be happy.

Blossomtoes · 28/10/2021 16:46

I’m speaking from my personal experience, and i’ve found it much better

So am I. And it wasn’t better, it was infinitely worse, particularly for my son.

And she won’t be exactly where she is now as she won’t be living with this idiot

In practical terms, of course she will. She’ll have to do all the childcare without the benefit of the idiot’s money.

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