ADs and The Brave New World

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When you kind of hope that a new thread meanders on quietly because it means that life is being fairly stable...

What are ADs?

Here's the copy and paste job...

Definition of AD
^AD stands for anti dementor.
There are creatures in Harry Potter called dementors, who suck all hope and happiness from you and eventually take your soul. Way back at the start of the pandemic thread after thread was posted on by posters like this and anyone who'd dare question anything or disagree with anything (like putting cheese in your coffee) was bullied off these threads. And so any actual discussion disappeared and it became an echo chamber of misery.^

We are the antidote to that. We follow the rules, but not the "roolz" and we question and discuss with respect to each other. It's all very civil.

Yes @Taswama the sense of deja vu is strong.

I think we’re done for

My adult sons who don’t live with me have both tested positive for COVID this week , DS2 thinks he caught it from someone at work and DS1 thinks he caught it from DS2. DS1 only tested positive today after 4 negative LFT’s and has a visitor for the weekend who has had to get a PCR today.

I’ve stopped wearing my mask here in Scotland and I’m not going back to it

FGS can't believe I am back on this thread for a moan because I thought we (England) were finally done with all masks etc.

Am double vaccinated and booked in for my booster on exactly 182 days. I feel I have done enough as I don't really feel that the vaccine is needed but I have done it for travel blah blah.

But bloody masks back in retail annoy me because I do think they are pointless and it feels like it's simply being seen to be doing something. I do follow mandatory rules so will put one on although grudgingly and will be curtailing my spending in physical shops again.

@WouldBeGood

I’ve stopped wearing my mask here in Scotland and I’m not going back to it

How have people reacted to that? Part of just wants to ignore the new rules in England and see how far I can push it, but I don't feel strongly enough to get into lots of confrontations about it.

I've got my lanyard still and will use it. But I am less anxious now. I think I am fed up enough to be more assertive than usual.

In order to try some cheer, I baked my first pie yesterday. Thus is what it looked like.

@SomewhereEast I don't always wear a mask in Wales - if I judge that the situation means I need to communicate well with DD then I don't. I've had a couple of shop staff ask me if I have a mask but no problems when I said I was exempt (I am; I'm with someone who needs to see my face for communication purposes, which is an exemption.) Other than that, no one's mentioned it.

The only thing I feel a bit unsettled about is that I do sometimes wear a mask and I'm a bit paranoid about someone seeing me doing different things in different settings and getting weird about that. But if anything, it's when I'm wearing one that I'm going above and beyond (if I have DD there - I do wear one if I'm by myself but that doesn't happen often!)

Lovely ISaySteadyOn what's in the filling? Pies aren't something I am amazing at at all! As well as having somewhere to share our concerns and misgivings about the world the way it is right now, it is lovely when we share pictures of our cats/turtles/baking and our fun. Try as they might, they cannot suck all of the joy out of our lives!!

It’s almost as if the government have waited until we got to a variant with a prefix that sounds like a bad sci fi film title so the media can do their thing.

I don’t think the mu variant sounded scary enough…..

@smallandimperfectlyformed, it's apple pie from apples we harvested from our tree. It took me a whole day.

I agree about the sharing of good things. I love seeing everyone's pets and vegetables and creations. After all, those could be our shared Patronuses

I bet your pie was delicious! This is something I made recently with apples - Dutch apple cake from the Hairy Bikers European baking cookbook. It may have caught a bit at the top but it was delicious and I enjoyed having something to occupy myself, it was a more difficult bake than one I normally attempt!

A friend just pointed out that omicron is an anagram of moronic.

@Stuffin

FGS can't believe I am back on this thread for a moan because I thought we (England) were finally done with all masks etc.

Am double vaccinated and booked in for my booster on exactly 182 days. I feel I have done enough as I don't really feel that the vaccine is needed but I have done it for travel blah blah.

But bloody masks back in retail annoy me because I do think they are pointless and it feels like it's simply being seen to be doing something. I do follow mandatory rules so will put one on although grudgingly and will be curtailing my spending in physical shops again.

Bloody pissed off about masks back in retail, I can tell you. More telling people to put their bloody masks on properly, customers getting shitty because the person in front/ behind them isn't wearing it properly, or at all and what am I gonna do about it? We'll have to wear them again, even behind a screen, you mark my words. I've not worn them since it's become non mandatory, I can't see as I get steamed up glasses, I get hot (menopausal), I can't walk down stairs wearing them and I can't hear what people are saying. I don't like masks, have you realised? Lol. I'm off work sick at the moment after an operation, I'll be making bloody damn sure I'm staying off as long as possible now- buggered if I'm wearing a mask again at work unless I really have to. I'll stop frothing at the mouth now!

@GarlandaChynoweth

A friend just pointed out that omicron is an anagram of moronic.

😂😂😂

@GarlandaChynoweth

A friend just pointed out that omicron is an anagram of moronic.

Makes me think of Optimus Prime!

Back in the winter/ spring, I dodged the worst of masks in the supermarket by shopping late in the evening when it was quiet, but now the mum-taxi service is in full swing, it's more practical to do it in the day. I'll have to see how unpleasant it gets.

What worries me more is the creep from the "stay safe" brigade who like to add an extra layer of visible H&S to their risk assessments. If things I do voluntarily go masky, I will abstain because that will be less depressing than turning up and constantly trying to work out what people are mumbling on about and trying to avoid looking at their un-faces when I can't lip-read them.

I'd better get DS a sunflower lanyard for his 11th birthday Yesterday he was 30 minutes late for school in a meltdown involving a school shirt. We suceeded after using one vest, cream, anti-histamine, coca cola and a bout in the conservatory to cool down. He looked like a cornered, terrified wild animal. With his sensory processing disorder, I will not make him cover his face.

I've already been infuriated by the MN dimwits who spout "it's not that hard". Neither are stairs, but it doesn't take many leaps of the imagination to understand that stairs can indeed be a challenge to people.

I'm trying to keep my pragmatic voice going by telling myself that like the frustrating June-July delay, it's an exercise in buying time to study the situation...

I can't stand all the, "It's not that hard," stuff either. It's not actually all that hard for me physically (as long as it's a paper one - can't tolerate cloth) but:

A) I understand that I am not everyone.
and
B) I have a young child who needs to see people's faces for her social and linguistic development.

Is there going to be a commons vote on masks or just a discussion about it? I guess they will present the evidence of how they successfully eradicated Covid from Wales and Scotland and think they can do the same in England.

I'm in Wales so masks are a given but the close contacts isolation is a huge issue if this variant becomes dominant. I've no idea what will happen if they try lockdown or limits again. Money and goodwill are surely completely depleted by now.

Although listening to countries with experience of omnicrom it sounds more like a cold than ever so maybe it's the beginning of the end of this shit. I'm hanging onto optimism

Eradicated from Wales 😂😂

We were the highest in Europe cases wise until recently and still have some stubborn pockets of high cases.

As for mask wearing that's been patchy observance wise living in a retirement area we're pretty compliant other areas nope they're pretty much ignoring the edict from the senedd. I've taken to letting it slip off my nose so that I can breathe at least.

Did get glared at as I walked into a restaurant sans mask by a woman the other week, I just stared back 🙄

Hands face space isn't a bad thing before Xmas with all the other germs floating around. I'm awake at this time because OH is coughing his guts up shaking the bed. He's triple jabbed so I'm not worried he's always chesty with the slightest sniffle had pleurisy last year , is it even worth doing a LFT??

@GiveMeNovocain

I'm in Wales so masks are a given but the close contacts isolation is a huge issue if this variant becomes dominant. I've no idea what will happen if they try lockdown or limits again. Money and goodwill are surely completely depleted by now.

Although listening to countries with experience of omnicrom it sounds more like a cold than ever so maybe it's the beginning of the end of this shit. I'm hanging onto optimism

While it almost certainly will change, I think at the moment the isolation rules in Wales are still what they were - so no requirement for the vaxed to isolate for any variant.

@110APiccadilly that's true. I'm just assuming isolating will re-emerge as soon as drakey checks his emails. He's already reinstated it for family members while waiting for pcr... ironically it's made me much less likely to test

It’s no longer about how dangerous any new variant is, or whether masks work, it’s become a disease of the media ramping up fear.

Hello again everybody, it's been a while but I've been following!
Masks being back is just something that gets on my nerves because, if they're the superpower antidote to catching anything (which they're not) it doesn't even make sense to just have them in shops and public transport surely? But then not sure this government would know common sense if it whacked them round the head.
I had to do a visit to my daughters nursery the other day ans they said I had to wear a mask, so I did, but when my 3 yr old daughter turned round and saw me with the mask on after so long without one her face fell and she just looked distraught. Then when it came to leave she wasn't able to properly say goodbye and just cried her eyes out, having to kiss her goodbye through a mask was horrible. I've got an 18 month old too and I'm not going back to mask wearing because I don't want to put up the barrier to us being able to communicate!

A key thing I don't understand about masks is that if you believe they work they must stop any virus, not just coronavirus. Surely avoiding viruses permanently is a terrible idea as we will catch them when we're weakest eg in hospital and the whole thing exacerbated by an out of practice immune system

@GiveMeNovocain

A key thing I don't understand about masks is that if you believe they work they must stop any virus, not just coronavirus. Surely avoiding viruses permanently is a terrible idea as we will catch them when we're weakest eg in hospital and the whole thing exacerbated by an out of practice immune system

A surprising number of people seem to think not catching any illnesses is a good thing. I assume they don't know much about immunology (nor do I, but I know enough to know that's not how it works!)