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9/11 Life Under Attack - ITV last night. Sensitive content

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MydogWillow · 08/09/2021 10:38

I'm unsure where to post this as it's to off-load really.

I sometimes watch programmes on 9/11 but found last night's ITV one so incredibly harrowing. It's stuck with me moreso than the others possibly because it was mostly personal footage.

It was a superbly put together programme but has affected me so much last night and today. I just wanted to see if anyone else has been particularly affected by this one?

The footage which has particularly stayed with me are the things I haven't seen before: the thuds on the canopy, the eery piped music in the plaza/complex still playing in the aftermath, the lady speaking to the emergency service telephone operator and the students reactions.

The whole thing is still incomprehensible. I guess the personal footage brings home the impact that day had on ordinary people's lives and how they have coped since.

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Dogatetheleftovers · 08/09/2021 10:44

I watched it and felt the same way. It resonated so much, the piped muzak, the poor lady holding her baby and not knowing what to do for the best. It was just such a powerful insight to that day.

Luckystar1 · 08/09/2021 10:48

I actually had to turn it over as I found it so upsetting. I was about 12 or 13 when it happened so had no real comprehension of the complexities of life and the true feelings you can have. Watching it now, as an adult with my own children it was just absolutely heartbreaking.

Those poor, poor people. Each one a loved child, sibling, spouse and parent.

RonniePickering · 08/09/2021 10:51

Agreed it was awful, wish I hadn’t watched it tbh.

Shitzngiggles · 08/09/2021 10:51

Watched it as well. It really brought home how many peoples lives it affected, ie all those living or working nearby. Kept thinking that they are all 20 years older now and I wonder how it still affects them.

Nottheduchess · 08/09/2021 10:52

This is why I can’t watch anything to do with 9/11. I was 22 at the time and I watched it all at the time. In the days/weeks afterwards where more footage was made available. It affected me so much that I can’t watch or read anything to do with it. Horrific.

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MydogWillow · 08/09/2021 11:09

I can't imagine the utter terror everyone would have experienced.

Agreed, the mother rooted to the floor holding her baby was another moment.

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Blueberryflavour · 08/09/2021 11:15

I felt the same I thought I had seen a lot of footage at the time and in subsequent documentaries. I didn’t see all the programme but DH and I just sat in silence watching the bit we did see. Just the impact on folks having a normal day, not even in the buildings that were attacked and came down.

MydogWillow · 08/09/2021 14:04

Of course the programme also showed wonderful gestures of help and support to complete strangers in such horrific circumstances.

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SamWidges · 08/09/2021 14:35

I watched it too and found it had a big impact...so many shocking stories made even more powerful by the personal experiences of those who lived them.

I found it REALLY jarring and distasteful when, in an ad break fairly early in, the first ad was the Macdonalds one where there are various people having a good giggle and laugh. Insensitive to the max.

MinesAMassiveSalad · 08/09/2021 14:40

I don't think I am going to watch anything unless my older children (young adult) want to. It is something that we have discussed over the years and one has hazy memories of TV coverage and adult reactions.

Realyorkshiretea · 08/09/2021 14:43

I haven’t seen it, but I too find 9/11 incredibly shocking & upsetting all these years later - I mean all disasters/terrorist acts are, but there was something so awful about it - the picturesque blue sky, the way in which people at the top of the towers would’ve looked down at safety below but know they couldn’t escape. The way a normal working day turned into a televised nightmare, the work papers swirling in the wind. The trapped lady/man waving a white piece of cloth out of the window. The world felt ‘different’ that day, and it still does. Does anyone else feel that way or is it just me?

Rupert Sewell acts out a poem about 9/11 on YouTube called Into the Blue - he is walking round a deserted office and reciting it. It’s beautiful but absolutely haunting.

Janaih · 08/09/2021 14:44

I thought I had become immune to footage of 9/11, that there wasn't anything more to see. How wrong I was. Came across it flicking and couldn't switch off. Harrowing, terrifying and heartbreaking.

Realyorkshiretea · 08/09/2021 14:46

*out of the blue sorry.

MydogWillow · 08/09/2021 14:48

@Janaih

I thought I had become immune to footage of 9/11, that there wasn't anything more to see. How wrong I was. Came across it flicking and couldn't switch off. Harrowing, terrifying and heartbreaking.
Yes, I thought much the same but was unprepared for how much of an impact this particular one had.
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ManifestDestinee · 08/09/2021 14:48

/I'd like to see footage of some of the many airstrikes in the years after 9/11 where US forces killed at least 25,000 civilians,
That would be pretty harrowing, but in the west we focus much more on the NY terrorist attacks as if if American lives are worth more.

loopylindi · 08/09/2021 14:59

@ManifestDestinee
I really didn't want to comment on the thread, but, although I agree with what you say, I think the overriding thing about 9/11 was the way in which the drama unfolded on TV/media around the world. It was a 'light bulb' moment for me. I don't think one life is any more valuable than any other, but to be totally honest other air strikes on other peoples are not televised in quite the same way - in real time.

coffeeisthebest · 08/09/2021 15:01

Yes it was truly harrowing, but please don't blanket assume that is the most harrowing site we will all ever witness. We have no idea what others have witnessed and had to live with.

ManifestDestinee · 08/09/2021 15:02

[quote loopylindi]@ManifestDestinee
I really didn't want to comment on the thread, but, although I agree with what you say, I think the overriding thing about 9/11 was the way in which the drama unfolded on TV/media around the world. It was a 'light bulb' moment for me. I don't think one life is any more valuable than any other, but to be totally honest other air strikes on other peoples are not televised in quite the same way - in real time.[/quote]
Why are they not televised? Why aren't there endless documentaries about it? Why do we talk about 9/11 being the "day the world changed" when parts of the world had seen far worse at the hands of the US?
We don't treat some lives in the exalted way we treat the americans.

It was a terrible, awful thing that happened. But it wasn't unique. Worse things have happened before and since, the US has killed far more people than they have lost. IT's time to stop fetishising 9/11 the way we have done for 2 decades/

amusedbush · 08/09/2021 15:03

I haven't seen that programme but I've been watching the new docuseries on Netflix and I watched the BBC one about the presidential "behind the scenes", if you will. The footage is awful.

I was 11 on 9/11 so had no real comprehension of the scale or devastation. I went to ground zero, the memorial centre and the nearby church a few years ago and it's really harrowing.

Last year DH and I found on youtube the episode of (I think) Good Morning America from that day and it's terrible to watch the events unfold in real time, while the presenters had no idea what was happening.

Realyorkshiretea · 08/09/2021 15:05

For those interested in harrowing, realistic portrayals of what happened to the civilians in Iraq, watch Once Upon A Time in Iraq on iPlayer. But brace yourself as it’s deeply upsetting and very harrowing.

RedToothBrush · 08/09/2021 15:07

@ManifestDestinee

/I'd like to see footage of some of the many airstrikes in the years after 9/11 where US forces killed at least 25,000 civilians, That would be pretty harrowing, but in the west we focus much more on the NY terrorist attacks as if if American lives are worth more.
See this is kind of where i am to an extent.

I watched 9/11 and heard all the commentary at the time. And it made me angry talking about terrorism as if it was the only time it had ever occurred whilst knowing how many Americans had funded the IRA who had bombed my town.

My university had been doing research into the media and the first Iraq war when i had been there. As one of our lectures they had shown us distressing footage filmed by the BBC in a discussion about the morality of what could and should be shown.

At the time, Aljazera News was just being launched and there was a lots of anger about how it showed far more graphic and distressing content than the Western media

It left me with the impression about how disconnected with violence so many people were and how they couldn't understand the mentality of people who had grown up in areas of conflict - in which the US had secretly funded privately, publicly or illicitly.

9/11 is horrific. But its still sanitised viewing believe it or not. And that in itself is food for thought.

One of the things about social media is above how things are now filmed in real time and uploaded instantly to twitter. If 9/11 happened now we'd have footage from those top floors shared for enternal viewing.

Given that Vietnam ended largely due to domestic pressure after war journalists were publishing graphic images which horrified Americans (the little girl running down the road covered in napalm being the classic best remembered), i cant help but think some of this control and censorship isnt conducive to international peace and has only made things worse.

9/11 and horror for it almost has this sense of well its America and its more civilised than some of these other places around the world where civilian deaths are labelled as 'collateral damage'. Its this concept that some how American deaths are worth more and are more shocking.

Ive had a fascination for war journalism since the events that happened in my teens and seeing stuff like the Bosnia war.

I can't help but this that 9/11 footage and the distress it causes isnt just about that event though. Its about a reluctance to admit that wars and violence are common around the world and its one of those rare times we are forced to confront the reality that is daily in the lives of others.

Its shocking and horrid. I also argue we should be exposed to it more in someways rather than pretending it happens to other people who 'aren't like me'...

RedToothBrush · 08/09/2021 15:08

America killed more civilians in Afghanistan by some margin than were killed on 9/11. And amongst them significantly more children.

Realyorkshiretea · 08/09/2021 15:10

@RedToothBrush I agree but I think calling 9/11 ‘sanitised viewing’ is a little out of order if I’m honest. The people killed weren’t soldiers, they were civilians making their way to work, living ordinary lives. On the other hand the recent newspaper coverage of the Kabul bomb would have you believe that it only killed US marines…