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Asking permission to remove school blazer - why?

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MyMushroomsInATimeSlip · 07/09/2021 17:03

DS had started secondary school this week and now has to ask permission to remove his blazer when he's hot.

Have great respect for teachers as it's not a job I could ever do and generally back up school rules. However I genuinely cannot understand the reason for this one. Can someone enlighten me?

OP posts:
OnTheBrink1 · 07/09/2021 21:12

@Peteycat

21:00OnTheBrink1

Mariell

"I wouldn’t t send my child in wearing a blazer if that’s the case.

Hilarious comment. Do you actually have a child currently in a secondary school where blazers are compulsory uniform?"

It's not hilarious at all. If lots of parents did this they would have to rethink their ridiculous policies. We need more people like Mariell.

No. That’s not really how it works. And actually, that just going to teach your kid how to be an disrespectful dick. You may think ‘no i am teaching they to stand up for themselves, teach them what right blah blah blah. But no, you are teaching them that actually teachers in school don’t need to be listened to and actually it’s ok to just do whatever the fuck you want. In reality in the workplace you can’t do what you want and in many cases you will just get sacked or made redundant or not be considered for progression if you think you can. Of course if it’s hot then blazers should be allowed off but asking permission - so? Did the OP not look at the schools policy before deciding to send her kid there? Did she not ask these sort of questions? Do a bit of research? It’s the school policy and silly or not, telling your child essentially that the school can stick it where the sun don’t shine and having some sort of stroppy rebellion ‘I’m not bringing a blazer in then’ stomp stomp is just completely missing the point and sending your child a terrible message.
diamondpony80 · 07/09/2021 21:13

All those sweaty teenagers with blazers that can only be dry cleaned! DS has barely worn his since he went back because it’s been quite warm, and he sweats a lot.

MsAwesomeDragon · 07/09/2021 21:16

@diamondpony80

All those sweaty teenagers with blazers that can only be dry cleaned! DS has barely worn his since he went back because it’s been quite warm, and he sweats a lot.
Ours are machine washable. All the state schools locally have fully machine washable uniform. I think it's ridiculous that some schools have dry clean only blazers. Ours are relatively cheap as well.

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godmum56 · 07/09/2021 21:19

that's weird. We had blazers as part of the school uniform when dinisaurs rules the earth and they were not worn around school. They were left in the cloakroom until going home time.

Fizbosshoes · 07/09/2021 21:21

My DD came home wet a few times in reception. She was quite reliably toilet trained and I asked her what happened and she said she needed to go but was not allowed to go after lunch. I thought this must be a mistake so I queried it with the TA and she said that was right, they were told to go at lunchtime and they were not allowed to go in the pm otherwise "one would go and then they would all be doing it!"Confused
Well duh, yes because 4 year olds often only give you about a 2 minute warning (if you're luçky) and often get distracted by playing.
There were toilets within the classroom as well.

toomuchlaundry · 07/09/2021 21:25

@godmum56 I wonder if they were like the blazers we had at school, very thick material, not like the thin machine washable ones most schools have nowadays

Poppitt58 · 07/09/2021 21:28

All of this how awful schools are and half the children can’t be bothered to take it off!

Not all kids go to your school. This thread was about schools requiring permission / forcing kids to wear them.

Knittingupastorm · 07/09/2021 21:36

Because if they can choose to take it off whenever they feel like it, no-one will wear it ever and they my might as well not have them

So?
And I’m not sure that’s true anyway. We didn’t have blazers at my school but we had school jumpers, and people wore them because you weren’t allowed other jumpers or hoodies (you could wear outdoor coats, but only outside), so you wore them when you needed to, for warmth. And took them off when you didn’t. Why overcomplicate it.

User135792468 · 07/09/2021 21:55

@Poppitt58

All of this how awful schools are and half the children can’t be bothered to take it off!

Not all kids go to your school. This thread was about schools requiring permission / forcing kids to wear them.

I understand that. All I was saying that there are plenty of schools where they aren’t required to wear it and they still choose to wear it in this heat. I also understand why other schools choose to have a blanket ban as it is ridiculous how some kids make such an ordeal about taking it off / hanging it / looking for things in the pockets etc.
Peteycat · 07/09/2021 22:04

@Onthebrink1

Thst is totally your own opinion. I disagree. Taking a stand on things is not teaching your kid to be a 'dick', as you so beautifuly wrote. 🙄 It's teaching your kid to stand up for themselves against bullshit. I don't care what you think, to be quite honest. If it affects the children, then yes they have a right (if they want to), to take it off and not wear it when it's hot.

I believe you are missing the point as the original op is annoyed at this policy. Oh and I'm pretty sure most parents will not think to check the policy of having to ask whether or not permission is required to remove an item of clothing. That seems quite ridiculous.

Peteycat · 07/09/2021 22:05

If you were a teacher Onthe brink1, I reckon you would be disliked by most of the children. Your views are so outdated.

Peteycat · 07/09/2021 22:07

@Fizzbossshoes, I'm so sorry to hear that about your daughter. That's awful. I hope you caused a fuss with the idiots in that classroom.

VashtaNerada · 07/09/2021 22:16

That’s ridiculous, I teach Year 2 and if a child asks to take their jumper off the response is “of course, you don’t have to ask!” Why should older children be any different? I bet the teachers hate that stupid rule too.

airforsharon · 07/09/2021 22:18

My DDs (grammar) school has a pretty strict uniform policy, but on very hot days they are allowed to remove their blazers. At other times they can take them off in the class rooms but have to wear them around the school.
The one thing that gets on my wick is they have to wear shoes all year round, even when it's very hot, while the teachers can wear strappy sandals and sundresses.

TheVolturi · 07/09/2021 22:19

I hated this! We even had to ask in the relevant language if in a language lesson. Ridiculous.

ChocolateRiver · 07/09/2021 22:21

I’m a teacher and I don’t understand this rule either. It disrupts my lesson when kids keep putting their hand up to ask to take their blazer off. I just tell the whole class they’re allowed to at the start of the lesson so there’s not constant interruptions.

Totallydefeated · 07/09/2021 22:23

Did the OP not look at the schools policy before deciding to send her kid there? Did she not ask these sort of questions? Do a bit of research?

Sigh. This canard again. It gets parroted on EVERY thread about school rules that are silly/cruel.

I can only assume that those who believe this do not live in England, so I will educate you as to how it goes here.

There is no ‘deciding ‘ your child will go to a certain school. The most you can do is state a preference for schools in order and hope your kid gets a place at one of them. In some areas, it’s not unusual for kids to only get a place at a school that wasn’t even their parents bottom choice and just have to lump it.

Even where a child gets a place at a preferred school, there is often no real choice of eg no uniform school v uniform school or sensible uniform school v ridiculous OTT controlling uniform school. Many secondaries seem to have swallowed the notion that being ridiculous about uniform is A Good Thing. So there often isn’t a choice of school with a more reasonable and sensible uniform policy in any case.

So stop with the ‘you chose the school’ nonsense, as if there was any sort of real choice. Often there just wasn’t.

Lady1576 · 07/09/2021 22:27

No idea. It’s ridiculous. Hate it and did not enforce this rule (which we had) in the previous school I taught at. At least they were consistent though. On the day I forgot my suit jacket, a passing assistant head made me go and borrow a pupil’s blazer from lost property. It was a genuine one-off mistake. I left that school after one year.

Peteycat · 07/09/2021 22:28

Well said Totally defeated. So true, you wouldn't scrutinise the uniform policy to that level, unless you were really bored. Most parents are quite busy!

Some posters have such a need to be correct /rude/obnoxious, that they will run with the most absurd point and fight it to the death.

MAKING CHILDREN WEAR/ASK TO TAKE ITEMS OF CLOTHING OFF IN THE HEAT IS RIDICULOUS, CRUEL AND CONTROLLING.

Ah, that felt good.

Timeisavirtue · 07/09/2021 22:31

My DS school had this but they actually sent an email around Monday afternoon stating due to the extreme weather students are permitted to come to school without thier blazers for the next 2 days, I was quite shocked tbh.... DS has permission anyway as he has ASD and suffers with nose bleeds especially when he’s hot.

De88 · 07/09/2021 22:34

Same for my eldest - they also have to be in full uniform in and out of the school unless permission is given! He has a 2 mile walk there, and a 2 mile walk back. Shirt, tie, thick wool jumper, heavy school bag and pe kit. It hasn't bothered him so far, but even in 27 degrees today they only declared it an official summer day in the afternoon (and he still didn't take off his jumper)! He has a full bottle of water for each walk and sticks to the shade. Stupid, stupid rule.

Fizbosshoes · 07/09/2021 22:39

Funnily enough while the schools publish their uniforms on websites, it is not neccessarily clear whether they make sensible allowances in hot (or cold) weather. And as @Totallydefeated says many many people (unless opting for private school) dont get a choice of school.

ChocolateDeficitDisorder · 07/09/2021 22:39

I am always amazed by these threads. None of the schools where I live in Scotland have these bonkers rules.

I agree, it's a very peculiarly English thing.

We have uniforms up here in Scotland, but we also try to avoid suffering to children. Why do you all allow it? If my children had been made uncomfortable at school by a ridiculous rule I would have told them firmly to do what made them feel more comfortable and tell the teachers to contact me if there was a problem.

It's weird on here, if anyone in a shop even looks at another person's child sideways all the mothers go on the defensive, yet you allow your child to be treated inhumanely by teachers just because they can!

Totallydefeated · 07/09/2021 22:45

If a husband told his wife she must wear a jacket in 30 degree heat and that he And not her would decide if she was hot enough to take it off, abs she’d be punished if she told it off without permission, he would be called abusive. And rightly so

TeeNoG · 07/09/2021 22:50

I can't believe this is still a thing. I remember sweltering at school in tie and blazer and being unable to remove them unless the whole school was allowed to!
The school my son attends is far more sensible, he just has to stick to school colours and look presentable. If he was made to wear a blazer I'd be destroying the blazer, he's a sweaty little thing as it is Smile