Asking permission to remove school blazer - why?

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DS had started secondary school this week and now has to ask permission to remove his blazer when he's hot.

Have great respect for teachers as it's not a job I could ever do and generally back up school rules. However I genuinely cannot understand the reason for this one. Can someone enlighten me?

[quote Stovetopespresso]@SunShinesBrightly "Uniforms are worn for a reason." then your list. you do sound conformist!! have you ever wondered what the reason is?[/quote]
I work in a school?

Utterly stupid rule.

Honestly there are lots of children who just don’t fit in blazers properly
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they are uncomfortable
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and smelly things
Not if their parents wash them. Unless your DC are at some school insisting on dry clean 100% wool blazers they are really easy to wash - hang them up straight out of the washing machine and they dry in no time.

I much prefer jumpers.
Blazers are good for carrying pens, keys money etc. in pockets though.

@Popcornbetty

The obvious difference is that teachers are adults and students are children.

As has been pointed out, teachers in most schools can and do give permission to remove blazers and jumpers when the weather is exceptionally warm.

Otherwise, good schools rightly expect DC to be in full and smart uniform. I think that is an approach most parents who want schools to be well disciplined environments support.

Last week the DC’ schools allowed amendments to the uniform due to the extreme weather. This week all are back in full uniform at all times with no problem- blazer and jumper for DD and blazer for DS(who will also have to wear a jumper after half term). Not an issue.

@GreenLakes - there are excellent schools where school uniform is not worn. There doesn’t have to be school uniform to produce well behaved and academic excellent students.

"The obvious difference is that teachers are adults and students are children"

Ugh. Please don't tell me you are one of those people who think adults are always right. If so all I can say is just bleurgh.

"As has been pointed out, teachers in most schools can and do give permission to remove blazers and jumpers when the weather is exceptionally warm.

Otherwise, good schools rightly expect DC to be in full and smart uniform. I think that is an approach most parents who want schools to be well disciplined environments support"

No one should ask permission to cool down or warm up. Uniform is nothing to do with discipline. Most parents don't think this way at all, does this thread not highlight that to you or are you ignoring it?

This was a rule when I was at school in the nineties. No idea why.. Also don't remember a teacher ever saying no though

Also if you don't wear a blazer where are you going to stash your polo mints, or is this not a thing now young people don't smoke?

I never wore a blazer. We had these awful fleeces that made everyone stink of BO by lunchtime. Or if you were brave enough to use the toilet, it would permeate fags, hair spray and impulse!

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Also if you don't wear a blazer where are you going to stash your polo mints, or is this not a thing now young people don't smoke?"

They don't really smoke anymore thank goodness! Tbf most think it's gross, which is a good thing! They obviously need somewhere to stash iphones now though!! 😂

I work for the NHS and have to wear a uniform,its made of nylon and its unbearable when its hot,doesn't fit my body shape and the colour isn't quite 'me' but that's the rule and if I don't like it I leave .

I don't think anyone would have appreciated me 'dressing for the weather' last week especially if I'd turned up to work wearing hot pants and a crop top which would have been way more appropriate for the temperature .

Can you imagine what some kids would turn up to school wearing (or not wearing ) once the temperature reached 25 plus ? There would be no doubt that some parents would be complaining that their precious DC were at risk of over heating in anything other than a bikini top and a hot pants ...

My teachers used to drive around the streets after school making sure we hadn't taken them off, in 30c heat! This was 20 years ago.. they said it was to "uphold the image of the school" Thankfully there were a lot of ginnels where we lived so we used to hide in there.

It's the same at DSs school although the teachers usually say at the start of the lesson when it's hot that they may take them off.

It's the same in some jobs though. In court I had to ask permission to remove my jacket - and sometimes the judges said no! Plus shoulders had to always be covered so if you had a sleeveless dress under the jacket you wouldn't be allowed to take it off at all.

It’s strange that schools seem to be getting stricter with uniforms at the very time that the rest of society is becoming more relaxed about its dress codes.

I don’t understand this rule either. My DS started secondary last week when it was 28 degrees outside, they weren’t allowed to remove their blazers. Sounds controlling and abusive.

@scratchyfannyofcocklane - children are more sensible than you think. Although DC’s never had a school uniform, they still dressed appropriately - shorts and T-shirt in warmer weather and jeans and hoodie when it got colder. No time was wasted at school on monitoring whether someone had a blazer on or top button done up. Students were comfortable so better school experience which you could see in their behaviour and grades.

We had to ask permission in the 90's.

I went to a grammar school, late 70s/early 80s and, now, reading how strict uniform policy is, realise how relaxed things were comparatively back then. We had a choice of open neck blouse or shirt and tie, cardigan or jumper, blazer was optional. We had to wear skirts to our knees, but no-one checked length, socks or tights. At the time I thought it was a strict school but, looking back it really wasn't that bad. We all just got on with our work and hardly anyone got detentions or suspensions. Teachers had our respect and we respected them.

Secondary schools are making pupils' lives a misery now with far too many petty rules.

"Secondary schools are making pupils' lives a misery now with far too many petty rules"

Agree with this.

I wonder how much time some of these more officious schools spend on asserting their authority over policing school uniform breaches. What a waste of time and how little does it teach children to think for themselves. A five year old should know if I’m cold I put my jumper on, if I’m hot I take it off.

@AlecTrevelyan006

It’s strange that schools seem to be getting stricter with uniforms at the very time that the rest of society is becoming more relaxed about its dress codes.

I totally agree with this (and I am a teacher). In very few jobs will the students I teach need to be suited and booted. Wedding or court possibly