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Why is everyone smoking weed now?

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Thetepidstepper · 29/08/2021 00:40

I mean it's everywhere. My neighbour smokes it and stinks the block out with it. In addition I smell it very often just round and about, coming from people's gardens and in pubs and that.

I don't like it because I had a massive anxiety attack first and only time I smoked weed and it left me with PTSD, I mean it was severe. According to my therapist this is actually quite common. I mean therapists know that weed is nasty stuff that makes people feel bad, quite a lot of the time.

But still people are smoking it. And cops are turning a blind eye obviously.

I wish it was legalised really so that these stinky people would have to fit fans and vents and the like.

But until that happens loads of people are at it even though it makes them be boring cunts. Why!

OP posts:
BastardMonkfish · 29/08/2021 16:27

I have an azalea bush in my garden that smells really strongly of weed. Maybe it's just that more people are growing azaleas OP Grin

SecondCityShark · 29/08/2021 16:27

You might not but it seems many people in town centres do, after the pubs/clubs close. The police and ambulance services are often at breaking point every Friday and Saturday night.

Precisely. I think you'd have to be particularly dense (or sheltered) to not notice the correlation between alcohol and violence. It doesn't affect everybody in that way obvs, but I'm sure the police and paramedics wouldnt deny the link.

SerendipityJane · 29/08/2021 16:47

Precisely. I think you'd have to be particularly dense (or sheltered) to not notice the correlation between alcohol and violence. It doesn't affect everybody in that way obvs, but I'm sure the police and paramedics wouldn't deny the link.

Well not too strongly. After all, taxes on alcohol pay their wages ...

MurielSpriggs · 29/08/2021 17:07

@Yellowbowlbanana

*MurielSpriggs* there are many examples of the minimisation of the harmfulness of cannabis on this thread. It is that perception that makes it dangerous.

I'm not entirely sure where your ethical argument comes from.

All of the examples you have listed have some form of regulation in place to potentially mitigate against harm. As cannabis is illegal, that is ultimately the only regulation.

Hi @Yellowbowlbanana

There is a significant ethical component in considering drug use. The harms involved can be divided into harm to the individual and harm to society. If your behaviour involves harm to others then that does raise ethical problems. That point is often made in threads on drugs - think about the supply chain, for example. (The only analysis I know of ranks alcohol top of the list of drugs with social harm, far beyond cannabis.)

I agree that the best policy response to cannabis use would be harm reduction, and that needs a change in the law. (Although individual users can practise harm reduction too.)

TerriblyNaice · 29/08/2021 17:10

@Nandakanda

Speaking as a former semi-regular smoker, it seems the strength has greatly increased over the years, and that related psychotic episodes have increased too. Drug-induced psychosis seem to be very common among the psychotics l meet - one of the results of the increase in popularity.

The op’s experiences do not surprise me at all - this is very powerful stuff for a first time smoker.

I don’t drink, smoke or anything these days, and feel much better as a result.

Definitely this. Skunk is mostly what you can smell on the streets. It's not the weed that I smoked years ago.
MurielSpriggs · 29/08/2021 17:51

Definitely this. Skunk is mostly what you can smell on the streets. It's not the weed that I smoked years ago.

Also spice, which is whole other kettle of fish.

TheUser420 · 29/08/2021 18:14

That point is often made in threads on drugs - think about the supply chain, for example.

A lot of cannabis user do - which is why they grow their own.

AlfonsoTheMango · 29/08/2021 18:17

Everyone? Why am I always the last to know?

mutters imprecations

TheUser420 · 29/08/2021 18:22

@AlfonsoTheMango

Everyone? Why am I always the last to know?

mutters imprecations

There's even a website "Everyone's doing it dot co dot uk" Grin
AlfonsoTheMango · 29/08/2021 18:29

Must head over there to find out what else I'm supposed to be doing. Thanks!

zombielady · 29/08/2021 18:42

This thread is a great read while I'm sat in the shed smoking a reefer Grin

brittleheadgirl · 29/08/2021 21:43

[quote Onetraumaatatimeplease]@brittleheadgirl nice to see you being so flippant about alcohol fuelled violence. It really was a scream when my ex was throwing me around a room whilst drunk. Haven't laughed so much since.
What was that about empathy?[/quote]
Wtf?
I was questioning somebodies assumption that alcohol leads to violence, which clearly it doesn't always but sadly can.

Isababybel · 29/08/2021 21:48

Pandemic boredom? Though we can go and do things now so probably not.
My neighbour sits on their doorstep and smokes it all evening which means i have to close the windows when i want them openAngry in the colder months though i don't actually care.

IrishGirl2020 · 29/08/2021 22:06

Yep I’ve noticed it a lot more over the past year too so think it is pandemic related.
E.g. this morning I went on a bike ride and passed 2 separate people/houses where I could smell it really strongly. Just made me really depressed as it was 8.30am and I just wondered what state their lives must be in that they’re smoking at that time of the morning (though one of my friends who is an A&E doctor always has a G&T after her night shifts so am hoping it’s something similar but I suspect not 🙁)

DinkBoo · 29/08/2021 22:22

YANBU my house is regularly stunk out by people smoking around here. This summer I ended up loving pelting rain as it meant a break from the stink. Apparently they were smoking outside to avoid making their own house stink. I've regualry walked behind or past people smoking just walking down the road.

It gives me a headache, makes me feel sick, and triggers PTSD anxiety from going through teen years with a violent paranoid schizophrenic sibling who smoked a lot. Envy

1FootInTheRave · 29/08/2021 22:22

I don't know many that do smoke it but the ones who do all work full time. I can't stand the stuff.

I know more cocaine users tbh which is probably far worse.

miltonj · 30/08/2021 05:10

People are being incredibly dismissive of your experience of cannabis. Because they have no experience it. You certainly can have psychosis, panic attacks, from a bad experience with weed lasting months snd even years. People are so weird to dismiss this. It doesn't mean that weed is the devil, or that it will happen to everyone.

However, I do think that your negative experience may be colouring how you view anyone who smokes it and maybe it's annoying you disproportionately? The more you focus on it, the more it will wind you up. I agree his rude though, you've spoken to him and he hasn't changed his behaviour... maybe tell him you'll get the council involved m and then leave it for a bit, see how he responds.

felulageller · 30/08/2021 08:12

I can't stand it.
It stinks.
It's flipping everywhere now but yes more so in the poorer areas.
It's causing massive hidden social problems.
Does no one add up the surge in cannabis use with the surge in mental illness?
Cannabis is known to cause psychosis- I knew a woman who was hospitalised with it- and long term depression, anxiety and paranoia. It makes users stop being able to function normally- hold down a job or look after their DC's.
Cannabis use is present in almost all households where DC's are under child protection procedures.
Those kids who don't get fed, sleep in dirty beds, have holes in their shoes, the vast majority have stoned parents.
But when you say this you get all these people who never see this saying it's fine and it's harmless and never don't mention how much worse alcohol is.
The police ignore it, so the law's a joke.
It needs a public health campaign just like there's been with tobacco.

TheUser420 · 30/08/2021 15:53

www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2021/08/30/save-lives-create-jobs-legalising-cannabis/

As the party of entrepreneurship and sound public finances, it’s high time the Tories end the ‘war on drugs’ and decriminalise weed

he ranks of former ministers who publicly support drug reform are both full and varied.

There’s Bob Ainsworth, Tony Blair’s health minister, who called for all illicit drugs to be regulated and legally available back in 2010. There’s Jacqui Smith, who admitted in 2012 that her decision as Labour home secretary to upgrade cannabis to a Class B drug was wrong. There’s the Liberal Democrat former health minister Norman Lamb, who backed the legalisation of possession and consumption of cannabis in 2018.

And most recently, there’s Conservative grandee and former leader of the party Lord Hague, who wrote a comment article earlier this month arguing that “decriminalising drugs is the only way forward”.

What this diverse bunch have in common is that they only found the courage to speak out after they had left office, and were therefore no longer in a position to do anything about it. Convenient for them, as they didn’t have to face the political pressure of a public that has been terrified into submission by the US-led “war on drugs” for the past 50 years – a policy that has caused untold misery and cost many lives.

But over the last two decades, at least, the US has been changing course. Marijuana for medicinal use is legal in 36 states, for recreational use in 18, while trailblazing Oregon has decriminalised personal possession of all drugs. In the UK, in contrast, drug laws have been stuck in a time warp – in defiance of not only the science but the economics and global politics.

The moral case for drug reform is inarguable. Fifty years of prohibition have not led to a decline in addiction and deaths – on the contrary, drug-related deaths in England and Wales hit a record high this year and have been rising for the past eight, while in Scotland they are higher than anywhere in Europe.

A sixth of inmates are in prison for drug offences, to say nothing of those whose crimes are linked to their addiction. The hypocrisy, when multiple members of the Cabinet – including the Prime Minister – have admitted to their own drug use is staggering.

At the same time, while UK law technically changed in 2018 to allow medicinal cannabis in some very specific circumstances, the regulations imposed by an establishment petrified of being considered “soft” on drugs are so strict that the vast majority of desperate patients – from epileptic children to people battling cancer – cannot access it.

Even politicians who are unsure about fully decriminalising all drugs know our cannabis laws are a disaster. They know it is wrong to condemn someone to a criminal record for possession of a drug that is less harmful (to the user and to society) than alcohol or tobacco, just like they know sending people to prison, where they are more likely to become dependent on far more harmful drugs than they are on the outside, is fuelling the UK’s spiralling addiction crisis. That’s why they keep changing their minds once they are no longer in power.

If we are to “follow the science” and “save lives”, to use our Prime Minister’s favoured terms, we need a different way to make the case to the public. And as the party of business, sound finance and entrepreneurship, the Conservatives are the ones to do it.

The first issue is simply one of cost – something any government struggling with the finances of a pandemic should have front of mind.

In 2018 the TaxPayers’ Alliance found that legalising cannabis “could save at least £891.7m a year in reduced spending by police, prisons, courts and the NHS through pain relief treatments”. For context, that’s the amount the March 2020 budget pledged to invest to help British businesses lead the way in high-potential technologies.

Speaking of those high-potential technologies, cannabis could be the new gold rush. The UK is already a world leader in growing medicinal cannabis, which is then exported in the absence of a legal market here. As our European neighbours press ahead with reform Britain risks being left behind on a multibillion-pound industry.

A few years ago the Adam Smith Institute estimated a regulated UK market could be worth £6.8bn a year, increasing tax revenue by £1.05bn. In fact, back in 2015 a report by the Treasury itself found similar. That’s a much more appealing prospect than the post-pandemic tax rises Rishi Sunak seems fixated on.

The kind of jobs a legal market would bring – in bioscience, agritech, marketing and retail – are either areas where the UK already excels, or where the pandemic destroyed job opportunities. As the furlough scheme winds down next month, imagine if the Conservatives could turn to the hundreds of thousands who have lost their jobs, and offer them a career in a cutting-edge new sector.

You won’t hear Labour making these arguments. It is up to the Tories to change the terms of the argument, to talk both about ending the cruelty of the current anti-science approach and of inspiring a new generation of entrepreneurs, saving taxpayers money at the same time.

The late campaigner for drugs reform, and former smuggler, Howard Marks, was fond of pointing out that legal or illegal, cannabis sellers would always make billions – the only madness was gifting all that money solely to organised crime.

Hague’s intervention shows it is not un-Conservative to imagine another way forward. It’s time for the self-appointed party of both business and law and order to see sense.

Alpenguin · 30/08/2021 15:57

I’m nott sure more people are smoking it, just that what’s available these days is strong and smells like shit.

I never smoked cannabis but good old fashioned hashish is one of my favourite smells, sadly only ever smell skunk around here and that got it’s name for a reason.

TooBigForMyBoots · 30/08/2021 15:58

I have an azalea bush in my garden that smells really strongly of weed.

OMG, I was convinced someone was growing weed at my local zoo! Must have been the azalea.BlushGrin

TheUser420 · 30/08/2021 16:40

@TooBigForMyBoots

I have an azalea bush in my garden that smells really strongly of weed.

OMG, I was convinced someone was growing weed at my local zoo! Must have been the azalea.BlushGrin

greenrushdaily.com/cultivation/legal-plants-similar-cannabis/
MinesAMassiveSalad · 30/08/2021 16:45

@felulageller

I agree public health campaign is the way to go.
However I fear from what I see in discussions such as this one that we are being "nudged" to legalisation and the illusion that that will make everything hunky dory.
Money talks.

nancybotwinbloom · 30/08/2021 17:00

When you open a bottle of becks it smells of weed.

I have a vape now. Smells a lot less!

TheUser420 · 30/08/2021 17:01

[quote MinesAMassiveSalad]@felulageller

I agree public health campaign is the way to go.
However I fear from what I see in discussions such as this one that we are being "nudged" to legalisation and the illusion that that will make everything hunky dory.
Money talks.[/quote]
Not quite sure what a "public health campaign" can do that making cannabis illegal can't ? Unless you want to make it more illegal ?

The reality is enough people want to use cannabis (smoking becoming passé anyway) that whatever the law, whatever the "facts", it will continue to be used.

Once you accept that, rather than acting like a three year old with it's fingers in it's ears going CAN'T HEAR YOU there are all sorts of grown up possibilities.

However, given my writing here has probably trebled the average age of posters in this thread, I am not - ionically Grin - holding my breath. All I know is that the past 45 years of the UKs laughable drugs laws have turned out world-class cannabis growers. Something we should really be celebrating. As a country we are very good at it.

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