Migrants, where do they go?

[HeidiHoNeighbour]

Watching the news this morning and a dinghy with migrants is being live broadcast.

I wondered where do they go?
When they reach shore?
How do they manage?
You have enough problems getting any form of help (benefits, housing) even if you do have the paperwork.

I’m not even thinking about the things they’ve left behind or how desperate they must be to risk lives.

@user27424799642256
There is no confidentiality breached at all. Nothing about my post is identifiable even by the people it concerns. There will be more than one family that was in child protection with an undocumented kurdish man in the uk. I haven't given the when's or where's or even how many children.
I haven't invited others to pass judgement at all, I was sharing my experience of an undocumented migrant.

You carry on being all hysterical though.

Most asylum seekers enter without documentation because having it makes it too easy for them to be returned to their country if origin.

Source please? It's not that they don't have documents because they were pulled from leaky boats (sometimes multiple times), lived rough for however long, didn't have ID to start with or it was lost/ damaged in whatever they were fleeing from?

Very few asylum seekers arrive in leaky boats!
The first thing the govt needs to know if they want to return someone is which country they come from. If they have no proof of residence, the accepting country will just refuse to have them back. Which I think is the whole purpose of claiming asylum. If you don't know that people don't bring documentation, or alternatively destroy documentation if they arrive here through using their passport etc, then you don't know that many asylum seekers.

The dehumanisation of asylum seekers is this government's lasting legacy. I can't imagine the horrors they will have gone through to consider getting a dinghy across the ocean is their only hope of a better life.

@sashh

Sometimes refugees are refugees from more than one place.

I worked with someone who's husband was Palestinian.

His family ran a business in Palestine when it was under British control, when Israel came into existence their business was taken away one day, their assets the second day and they were advised not to be home the third day so they packed what they could and headed for relatives in Jordan.

Unfortunately their relatives were in the West Bank which Israel attacked in 1967, so they fled again, this time to relatives in Cyprus.

My colleague met her husband in London but his family in Cyprus had to flee again, so headed for Kuwait.

They were in Kuwait when Sadam Hussain invaded.

This family may have had to move more than most but not all. Is it any wonder people head for Europe and North America?

Omg what a sad story! The things that people go through in one life

@VladmirsPoutine

The dehumanisation of asylum seekers is this government's lasting legacy. I can't imagine the horrors they will have gone through to consider getting a dinghy across the ocean is their only hope of a better life.

And it's a strategy that's clearly working, going by some posts in this thread.

It's strange that the venom comes out about those who've taken such huge risks, simply because at this time of year they're visible and the govt is using them to appease the right and say that they're 'doing something' about them.

The vast majority of people who are here without the right to be, are not these desperate people, but those who've come here on visas, and overstayed. But they're pretty invisible, not always brown, and the govt can't use photos of them made to look like an invasion on our beaches.

The vast majority of people who are here without the right to be, are not these desperate people, but those who've come here on visas, and overstayed. But they're pretty invisible, not always brown, and the govt can't use photos of them made to look like an invasion on our beaches.

💯this!

@VladmirsPoutine

The dehumanisation of asylum seekers is this government's lasting legacy. I can't imagine the horrors they will have gone through to consider getting a dinghy across the ocean is their only hope of a better life.

Absolutely.

@MolyHolyGuacamole The same applies to America. Most citizens think there’s an invasion at the Mexican border but don’t realise that something like 70-80% of people who are in the country illegally are out staying visas and still pumping billions into the economy.

[quote Fangsalot89]@MolyHolyGuacamole The same applies to America. Most citizens think there’s an invasion at the Mexican border but don’t realise that something like 70-80% of people who are in the country illegally are out staying visas and still pumping billions into the economy.[/quote]
Another excellent point.

@EssentialHummus

Language is a big draw, I expect. The prevalence of cash in hand work. Cultural connections here.

This is the answer to why migrants come here. So some posters should stop feigning ignorance in asking why they don’t stay in France The irony of the Daily Mail focusing on not being able to send migrants back to France. Brexit means that we are no longer part of the EU and therefore the Dublin agreement no longer applies( in other words we can’t send these migrants back to the first ‘European safe’ country in which they arrived).

As other posters have pointed out, both France and Germany take many more migrants than we do

@strawberrydonuts I actually know an awful lot about it. Thanks for your concern though.