Moving from Scotland to England-Differences.

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I'm planning a move from Scotland to England in the next year. Still finalising area now that I have it narrowed down. I know that it isn't like moving abroad but there are still some differences including water charges and prescription charges.

I know that every place is different but if you've made the move from Scotland to England.Or vice versa. What differences did you notice. Practical or cultural? And what did you miss? Morning rolls for me.

TIA

Sorrry but the tap water is not shite! I used to live in Glasgow and the water tasted horrible Now I live in Yorkshire it's so much better.

Following with interest as I'm moving from Glasgow to Carlisle in two weeks.

Tap water everywhere I have lived is just fine. I am not recognising quite a lot of the comments, but I think maybe they apply to more southern parts of England. Also, let's face it, Scousers and Glaswegians are similar in many ways!
I've adopted 'outwith'. It's extremely useful.
When I say juice, I mean squash or fresh orange.
@adoptivemummy87 you'll be just fine in Carlisle; it's a good place!

It's much warmer in the south of England - I moved from Aberdeenshire to the home counties and would say it was as big a temperature change as moving from south England to central France. I only wore jackets with hoods in Ab and suddenly could use a light raincoat and umbrella in S England.

In my experience the very far north of England (Carlisle, Newcastle u Tyne and Northumberland) is generally more similar to much of Scotland than much of England.

Unless you’re a massive iron bru and square sausage fan, I don’t really miss any food stuffs.

For me the noticeable differences are the climate, it’s much warmer down here, and house prices are much more expensive, although that depends on where in Scotland you move from ans where in England you move to.

Past that no big difference for me.

Also finding the comments on skin being left on fish odd. I have lived in both Surrey ans West Sussex and never had a chip shop do this.

You can get Iron Bru.

The tap water isnt gross.

The temp difference is massive.

Schooling system.

A lot of the little things depend where in Scotland you're moving from and where in England you're going.

They have irn bru in England. They also sell mackies crisps, which are by far the best ones, in Aldi.

I'm sure we have square sausage in Morrisons and cheap freezer shops like Jack Fulton and possibly Iceland.

If someone offers you "a drink" they mean a cup of tea or coffee, and more often than not they won't even give you a biscuit with it.

In Lancashire it's alcohol, tea and coffee are a 'brew'.

In Yorkshire you are more likely to get a slice of fruit cake with cheese on it than a biscuit with your tea.

Chip shops.

In the south of England fish in batter has the skin on. The only things fried in batter are fish, chips, sausages. If you order a burger it will be griddled or occasionally microwaved.

a fish supper is fish and chips, you will have the option of salt and pepper but not 'sauce'.

If you order 'pudding and chips' in a cafe you will get a steak and kidney pudding, no black, white or haggis.

In Lancashire anything in the chip shop can be made into a butty, fish, chips, meat and potato pie, a combination of the above.

Juice is fresh juice eg orange, the stuff you dilute is cordial the fizzy stuff is pop. You can get Irn brew but only the drink.

If you order whisky you may well get ice in it even when you have said you don't want ice.

Sorrry but the tap water is not shite! I used to live in Glasgow and the water tasted horrible Now I live in Yorkshire it's so much better.

It depends where you live, I buy Ben Shaws water because it tastes like Huddersfield tap water (which it probably is).

I agree with moving to Yorkshire.

Great fish and chips cooked in beef dripping.
Yellow / Golden lemonade
Ben Shaw's lemonade and dandelion and burdock
Nice water
Hills
Great accents

To add to the positive comments about England, I would say that the English do Bank Holidays better. I’ve lived in Scotland for over20 years, but still miss that feeling of everyone having a special day.
They also have much prettier countryside - less dramatic maybe, but the villages are far prettier.

A lot of the little things depend where in Scotland you're moving from and where in England you're going

Exactly. Glasgow to Surrey, Highlands to London or central Edinburgh to the south Yorkshire pit villages is going to be far more of a culture shock than Glasgow to Leeds, Newcastle or Liverpool.

I agree it depends where you are moving to. I’m in NE England and there is a lot of crossover in colloquial language and lorne sausage can be found in the supermarket. I would understand what you meant by juice but wouldn’t call it that myself etc, Iron Bru isn’t on tap but can be bought in most shops. I think the main things will be prescription fees, education differences and the house buying process.

Don't worry about morning rolls, they sell them in lidl(and other supermarkets) and frying haggis is available in larger supermarkets as is lorne sausage. We have annoying supermarket hours on Sundays but at least you can buy special offer booze.

You can also buy booze any time that the shop is open, whereas I believe in Scotland it's limited to certain times of day?

@WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll

Actually fish supper is used in England, not an expression I use but in the Midlands older people would use in it

I only moved 80 miles to live in London and was struck by how shite the chippies are. Back home we don't have gravy but we do have green curry sauce and NONE can be found down here. And the chips are barely cooked, just mushy pallid anaemic potatoes. 🤢

Things are more expensive in the South of England, going out, pubs, everything. Avoid.

England has proper pubs which serve decent food and proper cider as well as real ale.
People are much more polite. Men don’t treat women like second class citizens in general.
I think the countryside is softer and walks generally more interesting
Better food in public places
Less drinking to excess
Less swearing and spitting in the street*

I don't know where you lived I'm Scotland but that's certainly not my experience.

In the south of England fish in batter has the skin on

I've lived in south Manchester for 50 years and I'd just like to reassure everyone that up north we do not leave the skin on the fish in our chippies! We also do gravy in in our chippies, whereas I believe it's unheard of down south.

We have quite a vast north/south divide in England, and a lot of the things described in this thread are unique to the south. I'd say northern England would be more similar to Scotland than southern.

Oh and our tap water is delicious, but I agree that London water is not nice.

Manchester is nicely located for access to the city, as well as some fabulous national parks within an hour or two - the Lake District, the Peak District, the Yorkshire Dales - as well as proximity to North Wales. Also, getting to, say the Trossachs, only takes 4 hours.

Plus we're very friendly and enjoy chatting to strangers. I live in a very friendly community.

Come to Manchester!

And whats with the road signs that say 'The North'? It's not fucking Game of Thrones pal, everything above this point is The North, this helps nobody!

On the matter of fish and chips, if they're not haddock, skin off and cooked in beef dripping, like they are in Yorkshire, I find them disappointing and one of the few places I've had them in other parts of the UK where they've been most like here was Orkney, so while they're probably not representative of large parts of the Scottish mainland, it adds weight to the view that there's fewer differences to Scotland here than further south.

Many places will accept Scottish notes without argument too.

I was in Scotland for many years. By comparison south of England is;

• less friendly
• harder to access services like GP, nhs dentist
• less chat
• less drug taking but I was in glasgow before
• better weather
• no boring victim mentality
• somewhat less tribalism as in people only socialising with family and cousins, living next door to their Nan and mom. I couldn't understand that in glasgow. Literally people's entire social circle were family or people they knew at school. It's like that was their comfort bubble and they stopped making friends at age 10.
• less rigid viewpoints and a somewhat more intl outlook
• less 'free stuff' from the govt and not as much expectation that the govt is going to look after you from cradle to grave
• more expensive

Scotland is a very easy place to live. England somewhat less so.

Oh and both govts each side of the border are shit. Boris on one side and a dictatorship by Nicola and her wild spending that is bankrupting the country on the other. I'd say Nicola is way worse!

I don’t recognise much of these differences but I do live in the North of England. Gosh and chips don’t have skin on them, usually super tasty and can get gravy or curry sauce and mushy peas ( the best), not true for south of England. Water tastes great BUT only in the country, in my experience all city water taste horrible, including Edinburgh and Glasgow water. So I think it’s a city thing rather than a English/Scottish one. Also easy to get iron bru and morning rolls ( or very similar) but we are now in Cumbria, Scottish bank notes not a problem in the North either. Wouldn’t dream of offering someone a brew without a biscuit but I’m just old fashioned.

*Fish!