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Should I try to become PM?

91 replies

SisforSarah · 17/07/2021 21:49

Just that really. NC.
I have no experience in politics. I’m mid 40s, married with DC, NHS Dr. I spend most of my life trying to avoid conflict…..but I’m pretty thick skinned. Politically I don’t fall neatly with either main party ;labour is too socialist and the Tories…..well where to start really. I just listen to the daily spin and lies and chumocracy and think ‘there has to be someone else who can lead better than this’….but apparently there isn’t. I think my 10 year old could do a better job….and failing that, what about me? I think I’d have to start a whole new party. I don’t know what I’d call it. Is it even worth trying? And where would I start? And why won’t someone else do this as I’m sure there are lots of people significantly more qualified than me who would be much better. Where are you hiding??

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duffmcstockings · 18/07/2021 01:32

Personally, I would like to try out as a benign dictator. I already think I know what's best for everyone, and the tories would be first up against the wall. Anyone prepared to take a punt???

Athrawes · 18/07/2021 01:33

I think you are not seeing the trees for the woods. The UK has a lot of people who wanted Brexit, who don't like immigrants, who think that 0.7% of our GDP is an outrageously huge sun to spend on foreign aid, who think that vaccines are a Chinese conspiracy, who don't care one jot about climate change or don't even believe in it etc.
NZ has one of the sanest most Mumsnetty PM's going but she probably won't make it to a three term because too many people are selfish landgrabbing bastards who only care about themselves (I am looking at you landed gentry wealthy tax dodging NZ farmers).
Your party of Reasonable People wouldn't stand a chance.

duffmcstockings · 18/07/2021 01:34

After reading that last post, first up against the wall is JRM Father.

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StripyGiraffes · 18/07/2021 01:35

@duffmcstockings

After reading that last post, first up against the wall is JRM Father.
👏👏👏

The apple has not fallen far from the tree. The big supporter of Brexit moved the millions in his investment fund to Ireland in late 2016 to "protect its value from the expected devaluation of GBP".

duffmcstockings · 18/07/2021 01:37

That's why I wouldn't have people voting. They have to trust I know best.

duffmcstockings · 18/07/2021 01:39

You will all have to think of me like mummy to the whole country.

StripyGiraffes · 18/07/2021 01:41

@duffmcstockings

That's why I wouldn't have people voting. They have to trust I know best.
Lol!

Well I'd rather put my faith in a random stranger on the internet than Boris forgot-how-many-kids-have-I-got Johnson. So I guess I am in.

I, for one, welcome our new overlord, Duff McStockings!

Graphista · 18/07/2021 02:19

I wish there were politicians like this - used to be true of the Labour Party but even they seem stuffed full of career politicians now!

Maybe we need term limits on sitting as an Mp?

I would love a new party to come through though if I'm honest they'd be more like the Labour Party pre Blair!

I'd like a party that:

Understood and was from the working class and genuinely wants to represent them

Understood women's rights and the equality act properly - and knows how to define a woman!

Understood the nhs and wants it funded and run properly

Understood the prejudices faced by many often on multiple fronts

Understood national and international economics

Understood national and international trade

Understood and supported the welfare system

Just for starters

It's a bit been debunked but I also liked the idea that supposedly Justin Trudeau did where the cabinet was actually made up of people who's experience meant they knew wtf they were doing in that role!

So eg

Chancellor - an accountant or economist (not a banker who fucked up!)

FCO - someone well travelled with actual lived experience of foreign culture and trade

Home Secretary - former police officer

Justice - Former legal aid worker

Defence - former boots on the ground soldier, not an officer who did a few years!

Health & social care secretary - A former hcp or care worker

Business energy and industrial strategy - for starters I'd separate these! Having energy and business together alone is a conflict of interest! I'd have a business person who had built their own business from the ground up

Energy - an environmental expert who isn't in the back pocket of big oil or the nuclear industry etc

Minister for women and equalities which is currently also stupidly the same person as covers international trade! Wtf! No! I'd have a minister for women, another for equalities and another for international trade

Minister for women - should go without saying but these days! An actual woman! I would even go as far as to say ideally someone who has worked in an area like rape crisis, dv support, sexual harassment at work that kind thing. Equalities - again someone that's worked in the arena NOT a middle aged white middle class man! International trade - again someone with successful and honest experience in the arena, possibly someone who's worked in a charity relating to fair trade type job.

Dwp - for starters change the name and remit! In terms of a person someone who's worked in welfare rights advice would be my choice. Who's advised on appeals and supported claimants and knows the system

Education - a former teacher

Environment, food and rural affairs - again I think possibly there need to be separated. They don't necessarily work together. Environment a suitable expert who understands that there's an ideal and then there's people's need to live their lives too. Food - should be someone with expertise in nutrition, food safety etc. Rural affairs (bit broad) a former farmer?

Housing, communities and local govt - again I don't necessarily think there isn't a conflict here, or could be. Housing - I would want someone who's worked in homelessness. Communities and local govt - again someone with experience in this, in dealing with communities in strife.

Transport - at the very least someone who's been on a fucking bus! But seriously an expert in public transport.

Northern Ireland - needs to be someone extremely adept at diplomacy and non inflammatory, who is northern Irish and understands the culture and issues of the country

Scotland - pretty much as Northern Ireland but of course a scot.

Wales - as above

Digital, culture, media and sport - ugh where to start! This is FAR more important than I think any politician has ever given it credit far more now than ever before so we need someone who GETS that! Who understands the need to support this industry and the infrastructure needed to - as we've learned this past year - keep the country running!

@EnemyOfEducationNo1 how about "the rational nationals"?

Idea being to bring some cohesion and reinforce and increase the idea that we are all one nation - albeit comprised of 4 nations.

Agreed we need the voting system to change too. More people, I think more people didn't vote than voted Tory in the last election? I think I read somewhere?

As a scot I'm also heartily sick that effectively it comes down to who England voters elect!

@StripyGiraffes agreed the scrutiny is very off putting! Eg if I were to stand I would be described by the tabloids as a "crazy slut dole bludger" I have no doubt!

The UK has a lot of people who wanted Brexit

Just as many DIDN'T the vote was VERY close that seems to be ignored/forgotten a lot of the time.

Blueskytoday06 · 18/07/2021 05:49

Nah the question really.....what's your barnet like ? 😂

JuneJuly · 18/07/2021 07:16

@elephantoverthehill

What about 'The we all fart party'. It breaks down barriers and is true.
The Farty Party 😂
JuneJuly · 18/07/2021 07:20

@EnemyOfEducationNo1

Yes. I've been saying this for the last couple of years. I'd stand with you - I'm a mere science teacher with a background in finance. I favour the "rational party". As in sane.
The National Rational Party 😆
Phoenixrising2020 · 18/07/2021 07:25

Brilliant ideas Graphista.

ViceLikeBlip · 18/07/2021 07:27

I have also thought this same thing many times over the years. Have a look at the route Caroline lucas took, or even ukip. Unfortunately, a huge part of it seems to be significant fundraising rather than changing the world.

I'd join the lib dems if I were you. They're absolutely crying out for decent party members, and no one wants to lead the party! And with the tories targeting more Northern, working class votes, there are a significant number of southern, University educated voters feeling disenfranchised.

Itsprobablynotcominghome · 18/07/2021 07:29

@JackieCollinshasnoauthority

You sound bonkers and, as someone else has pointed out, it would be functionally impossible for you to become prime minister without joining one of the main parties. That said, I'd happily give you a go if it meant getting rid of Boris Johnson.

Have you thought of overthrowing the monarchy and becoming the first UK president? That could work.

Obviously this post is deluded, but don’t throw around the word “impossible”.

She could start a new party, be elected as an MP, and if this new party got the most MPs, or formed a coalition with another party, she, if she was leader of the new party, could become PM.

It’s not impossible. It’s stacked against you, and even if you threw billions at it, you’d likely fail. But it is not impossible.

JumpLeadsForTwo · 18/07/2021 07:33

@HugoToWin

I'd back you OP. I have been saying they need a bunch of post menopausal women with teenagers in the top jobs and we'd have sorted this nonsense in no time. Failing that, you sound perfect.
Didn't Sandy Tokvig dabble in politics a couple of years ago? I remember thinking she'd do a much better job than the current lot
JuneJuly · 18/07/2021 07:34

Ah, I've just seen that you had already suggested a similar party name as I did in my last post, albeit in a much more sensible, & non jokey way!

JuneJuly · 18/07/2021 07:36

@JuneJuly

Ah, I've just seen that you had already suggested a similar party name as I did in my last post, albeit in a much more sensible, & non jokey way!
Oops, that was directed to Graphista
Orangeinmybluelightcup · 18/07/2021 07:36

What worries me is all the sneaky things the tories have been doing to shore up their power. Like changing constituency boundaries.

ssd · 18/07/2021 07:45

What worries me is that joe public seems to trust them.

Orangeinmybluelightcup · 18/07/2021 07:47

@ssd

What worries me is that joe public seems to trust them.
Me too. Is it just men in suits kind of complex?! They sound so confident and like they should be in charge. People don't see through it?!
Itsprobablynotcominghome · 18/07/2021 07:49

@ssd

What worries me is that joe public seems to trust them.
Yeah, I find political discussions on Mumsnet, particularly anti-Tory ones, quite intriguing.

The vast majority of Mumsnet households are the Tory core voters.

CormoranStrike · 18/07/2021 07:55

@SisforSarah

I have no connections. I earn an NHS consultant salary…..so we aren’t close to the breadline. I think that’s my point though…..is it possible to make it in politics without arselicking, back scratching and outright lying. Is it possible to make a party of honest people who genuinely want the best for the country rather than lining their pockets or those of their mates?
Taking this as a genuine question, you will need to join one of the big two parties, then probably stand in local elections. There’s an outside chance you would get selected for a by election quickly given you are a woman and NHS, Labour would view you as a very good candidate.

Then you would have to graft on the back benches, work very long hours and make a lot of deals to get within sniffing distance.

I would suggest an honest talk with an honest politician - try Jess Phillips.

Aspiringmatriarch · 18/07/2021 07:57

What about calling it Represent? As in, you're representing the general public - more so than existing parties.

miffmufferedmoof · 18/07/2021 08:00

Have a look at the social democratic party. Centrist, sensible (imho), say what they think...
Of course we’d need proportional representation to get anywhere

Theworldisfullofgs · 18/07/2021 08:07

I think having more normal women in politics (not handmaidens or pretend men) is the answer. I've thought about standing against my completely crazy mp.